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Post by the light works on Feb 11, 2016 12:27:46 GMT
so it's now going to be a design by committee...
I see we have the uncaucasian, the female, the short one, the ginger, the old one, and the yank. it's a bit like affirmative action run amok.
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Post by kharnynb on Feb 11, 2016 15:22:21 GMT
the only thing they are missing is someone with actual british humour.
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Post by the light works on Feb 11, 2016 15:28:23 GMT
the only thing they are missing is someone with actual british humour. that's not a protected minority class. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 12, 2016 7:46:52 GMT
This is more "Wtf" than anything else.
Is it going to be part time presenters, 3/4/5 at a time change every week, or, will all 7 of them be on stage during the same show?.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Feb 24, 2016 20:17:59 GMT
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Post by ponytail61 on Feb 24, 2016 23:37:27 GMT
Racial discrimination? Is Irish considered a different race in England? |
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Post by the light works on Feb 25, 2016 3:33:41 GMT
Racial discrimination? Is Irish considered a different race in England? That leaves so many wonderful openings for abuse. like maybe television producers are considered a different race. and it may just be me, but Clarkson's statement sounds a wee bit on the "I've been sacked, you've been enriched, get over it already" side. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 25, 2016 9:02:36 GMT
Racial discrimination? Is Irish considered a different race in England? That leaves so many wonderful openings for abuse. like maybe television producers are considered a different race. and it may just be me, but Clarkson's statement sounds a wee bit on the "I've been sacked, you've been enriched, get over it already" side. Clarksons "statement" looks to me like a cleverly worded "This is what you should say" document prepared for him. Who by?.. perhaps we will never know. I have had several discussions over the event... Briefly to outline the problem... I am addressing both sides, so keep reading?. "Devils advocate" for Clarkson, he spent a whole day up to his eyeballs in Mud. Part of his "rider" for doing the event would be, and I suspect this is only sensible, that he be provided with a Hot shower, somewhere to get clean clothes, and a hot meal provided. I suspect that the rest of the whole OB unit would be expecting the same... so not a simple thing to "Miss" when making arrangements, how many times has it been done before?.. surely by now there is a tick-box check sheet to get all that done?.. "Someone" was supposed to be responsible for arranging all of that. Be that a steak dinner, bowl of Pasta, or even just fish and chips.... "Some may say" that the person who was supposed to do that "beep'ed up" in some way and that when they finished filming, the request of "where is my food" was answered with "Oh Cr@p the restaurant is shut, I can get you a cold sandwich"... What NO hot food ANYWHERE?... not even the mobile catering crew that would have been arranged for the rest of the crew of the OB unit?.. In that the arrangements for provision of a HOT meal for ALL the cast and crew was not met?... On behalf of EVERYONE, and remembering this wasnt JUST Jeremy here, Jezza 'lost his shirt' over that, because not JUST him, bit other co-stars, and all of the rest of the film crew, were without any provision for hot food?... Go on, ask me, how long do you think it would take me to get upset if I was in that position?... keep guesses to the nearest Millisecond for brevity. An Argument ensued..... At this point, I give up defending Clarkson... Because no way do I condone physical violence in any way at all, nor do I condone racial slurs, or any of the other "Alleged" assaults. Devils Advocate for Osin Tymon (SP?) He F'ed up. We all make (Male Chicken Skywards) of the greatest degree from time to time... To stand there and ARGUE with the "talent", in my opinion, was wrong, he should have walked away and tried to fix it.... At least try and find out how quick he can phone in some food from "Somewhere". Or get someone else to help do that. He Did NOT deserve a knuckle sandwich to the face for the [foul up]. But did that deserve £100,000 in apology for HIM doing wrong?... "Racial slurs", over sensitive, we all remember the video posting of Clarkson REFUSING to make a racial slur and asking that the edited version of him doing the "You cant say {that} word on camera" be taken out of the edit.... If you ask me, Racial Slurs and Clarkson are just a slippery slope.... Oh, You cant say that can you? |
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Post by the light works on Feb 25, 2016 15:19:27 GMT
I think this event falls into the "just because he was wrong doesn't mean the other guy was right" category of incidents.
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Post by mrfatso on Feb 25, 2016 22:48:15 GMT
the only thing they are missing is someone with actual british humour. I think we can say that Chris Evans represents that, though not to my taste he has Been a popular DJ, TV presenter for many years . It may not be the strand of British humour that sells well,to an international market, but he has been too popular for it not to be part of British humour. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 26, 2016 6:54:35 GMT
Two wrongs make a sackable offence.
The BBC will be paying much of the settlement. As Clarksons employers at the time, they were responsible.
Chris Evans "Funny"?... erm... no.
I wont be watching it for his participation, I will watch it to see what its like, I wont be comparing it to the last, I will consider it as a replacement, and it will have to be judged as a new incarnation.
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Post by the light works on Feb 26, 2016 15:30:05 GMT
Two wrongs make a sackable offence. The BBC will be paying much of the settlement. As Clarksons employers at the time, they were responsible. Chris Evans "Funny"?... erm... no. I wont be watching it for his participation, I will watch it to see what its like, I wont be comparing it to the last, I will consider it as a replacement, and it will have to be judged as a new incarnation. I will give it a look. if I like it, I will continue. if I don't, I will not. |
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Post by mrfatso on Feb 27, 2016 10:58:02 GMT
Two wrongs make a sackable offence. The BBC will be paying much of the settlement. As Clarksons employers at the time, they were responsible. Chris Evans "Funny"?... erm... no. I wont be watching it for his participation, I will watch it to see what its like, I wont be comparing it to the last, I will consider it as a replacement, and it will have to be judged as a new incarnation. You and I may agree about not finding him funny, but without his sense of humour tapping into many people's sense of humour his programs such as TFI and the BBC Radio 1 Breakfast show would not have been so popular. |
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Post by Cybermortis on Feb 27, 2016 12:25:15 GMT
Most shows are cast by committee.
Evan's is there because his name is known to British audiences, especially the age group the show is mostly aimed at. LaBlanc is there partly to appeal to the US audience, but probably also because they feel he will fit in well with the others. After all he has good comic timing and used to working as part of a larger group without trying to overshadow them.
The others...This is actually not too dissimilar to the way the series was cast before Clarkson started to take over. They had two or three main hosts with another two or three who handled things like location shoots and test drives alongside them.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 28, 2016 7:34:15 GMT
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Post by the light works on Feb 28, 2016 15:28:39 GMT
Things are looking a bit grim for the BBC Top Gear. hope Evans' pay is being docked for the shows that had to be cut.
maybe the new show should be called "what you watched Top Gear for"
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 1, 2016 5:40:03 GMT
The BBC is in a rush to get the sows out before the football kicks off, because they know they will loose viwere.
They are also in a rush to get the season finished before Clarksons mob get theirs to air, in the hope that people wont just ignore the last few programs because "Clarksons back"....
So expect a five show and then "Best of" sixth to come to air as a MINI-series, because that just how its happening.
They will then do another set for later in the year after all the summer fun had died down.
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 2, 2016 11:07:45 GMT
Don't be too surprised if Evan's gets fired, it's happened before due to his bad behavior.
Lest we forget, and outside the UK many don't realise, that the BBC is paid for by a licence fee and has to justify to their board of governors that they are spending that money in a responsible way. If the viewer figures for top gear go down and Evan's has been playing up again even his biggest supporters won't be able to protect him this time.
Say what you like about Clarkson but at the end of the day he was a professional when it came to filming, and his problems didn't affect production. That was one of the reasons, the other being popularity, that meant the BBC was willing and able to keep him on the show for so long. Evan's however hasn't been all that popular in over a decade plus has a history of not turning up for work when he doesn't feel like it. The BBC is in no mood to humour him this time, nor in a position to keep him around if he's wasting them money.
Don't be too surprised if LeBlanc takes over as main host, with one of the other cast members getting promoted to fill the vacant slot. They might have been better advised bringing in a rotating cast of guest presenters for the first season and seeing who worked and who didn't before trying to duplicate the old line-up. That was more or less what happened when Clarkson first joined the show, and he stuck around because he worked.
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 3, 2016 7:00:36 GMT
Evans has a difficult job.
He now has to "assume charge" of a flagship program?...
Him in charge of anything is a worry.
"Some say" that he has to shake the tree to see what falls off.....
Some say that the producer that went is one of those that has caused controversy. (Not me...)
SOME say that the Controversy with a slope on the bridge is part of the irrelevant humour that made it such a good show in the first place, and what the forklift do you think your doing trying to change that.
Maybe by upsetting a few people, it will change how the show is made just enough to make it different enough for us to believe they have not just started recycling old scripts....
Watch out for Sabine, she will be the star to keep an eye on, I think it may be her time to shine.
Shame that she should be saddled with a damper-van ship about to sink?...
Le Blank as main host?... I cant think of a more fitting end to his career..... hashuptag "Dead Donkey"?... [/sarcasm]
He may be a petrol head, but that dont mean I like him?... not everyone riding a Ducati is "My best mate", in fact some of them are bloody fools.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Mar 3, 2016 13:49:15 GMT
Evans has a difficult job. He now has to "assume charge" of a flagship program?... Him in charge of anything is a worry. "Some say" that he has to shake the tree to see what falls off..... Some say that the producer that went is one of those that has caused controversy. (Not me...) SOME say that the Controversy with a slope on the bridge is part of the irrelevant humour that made it such a good show in the first place, and what the forklift do you think your doing trying to change that. Maybe by upsetting a few people, it will change how the show is made just enough to make it different enough for us to believe they have not just started recycling old scripts.... Watch out for Sabine, she will be the star to keep an eye on, I think it may be her time to shine. Shame that she should be saddled with a damper-van ship about to sink?... Le Blank as main host?... I cant think of a more fitting end to his career..... hashuptag "Dead Donkey"?... [/sarcasm] He may be a petrol head, but that dont mean I like him?... not everyone riding a Ducati is "My best mate", in fact some of them are bloody fools. I do wonder how Leblanc will be received by the British crowd, seeing how BBC is making a Yank 1/3rd of a *British* show (the US version never got the audience commanded by the original). Well, I guess he's proof that the producers have reTOOLed the show... |
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