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Post by the light works on Mar 28, 2015 1:02:16 GMT
My typical response to "check your privilege" is "check your reading comprehension"
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 28, 2015 7:14:05 GMT
I have no idea what this check your privilege thing is. WHUT?
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 28, 2015 7:37:31 GMT
I am supposed to be "Privileged"?... Yet, I have been refused in the past social housing (unemployed new to being ex-military under 30 skint) because I was not of colour which automatically get a que jump, not being female, pregnant under 20 and of differing sexual orientation, which also gets que-jump status to fill "quota's", not being a refugee, and a whole host of other "Benefits" went to those who needed them most.... Those like me living in a car, who had actually paid into the tax system that was paying out for all of these benefits were entitled to nothing?....
Since that time, I have seen work given to quota fillers that I was better qualified to go for. I have since then been elf-employed. As in, I work for the likkle person in my attic who openly says "You go for it".... Ok, serious again, I work for myself, because no bugger else is. I have run a "small business", being a landlord of a pub, with unquestionable equal rights, as in those who apply for the job were employed on their ability to do the job and that reason only. I have been questioned on my Disability rights, but pointing out that I myself fill any "Quota" you need to fill any disability rights, and my Right-Hand Man at the time, the good friend I often speak of who is a wheelchair user now, at that time he filled the other half of my Disability quota, well, sod off, the position is full, we aint hiring.... As for my "LGBT" quota... No, not had none of them apply for anything. You have to have applicants before you can employ them.... Apparently just dragging them in off the street is illegal since they abolished the press gang?... Who knew? Race?.. I ignore that at all. And anyone who points it out is racist. See my equality rights above.
Being a small business, I am legally exempt from any of those rules, but do I care?... I employ the best person to do the job who turns up on the day, and as a barrel of lager is half a ton, I have good reason for requiring a certain physical ability. And yes, my Surgeon who did my back nearly fainted when I told him what the weight of a full barrel is... "You move them about on your own?..." "Daily". "Someone get me a glass of water.... has it gone warm in here?.."
Check my status... how about you check your ability to read. Oh, how silly of me, I have ignored those who for reasons of social deprivation do not know how to read.... Let me fix that for you...
[LEARN HOW TO READ]
I am a business, I am in the business of selling intoxicating liquids, I am not a (beeep)ing SCHOOL, the school is way down the road, go there is you need to learn to read, otherwise, you have to be able to read to enter the premises. The door says "pull". The door also has opening times. It also has age restrictions. Not reading and understanding them is YOUR problem.
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 28, 2015 7:43:11 GMT
I am who I am. Got a problem with that?... Go talk to someone. I dont care who, just not me.
If you have problems with me being me, I have enough problems being ME, I dont need your problems, I dont need to know how hard it is to be you, because all the time you are telling me that, you yourself are ignoring the fact you are ignoring me, and have showed exactly ZERO "understanding" of my own particular difficulties.
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Post by the light works on Mar 28, 2015 16:12:10 GMT
I am supposed to be "Privileged"?... Yet, I have been refused in the past social housing (unemployed new to being ex-military under 30 skint) because I was not of colour which automatically get a que jump, not being female, pregnant under 20 and of differing sexual orientation, which also gets que-jump status to fill "quota's", not being a refugee, and a whole host of other "Benefits" went to those who needed them most.... Those like me living in a car, who had actually paid into the tax system that was paying out for all of these benefits were entitled to nothing?.... Since that time, I have seen work given to quota fillers that I was better qualified to go for. I have since then been elf-employed. As in, I work for the likkle person in my attic who openly says "You go for it".... Ok, serious again, I work for myself, because no bugger else is. I have run a "small business", being a landlord of a pub, with unquestionable equal rights, as in those who apply for the job were employed on their ability to do the job and that reason only. I have been questioned on my Disability rights, but pointing out that I myself fill any "Quota" you need to fill any disability rights, and my Right-Hand Man at the time, the good friend I often speak of who is a wheelchair user now, at that time he filled the other half of my Disability quota, well, sod off, the position is full, we aint hiring.... As for my "LGBT" quota... No, not had none of them apply for anything. You have to have applicants before you can employ them.... Apparently just dragging them in off the street is illegal since they abolished the press gang?... Who knew? Race?.. I ignore that at all. And anyone who points it out is racist. See my equality rights above. Being a small business, I am legally exempt from any of those rules, but do I care?... I employ the best person to do the job who turns up on the day, and as a barrel of lager is half a ton, I have good reason for requiring a certain physical ability. And yes, my Surgeon who did my back nearly fainted when I told him what the weight of a full barrel is... "You move them about on your own?..." "Daily". "Someone get me a glass of water.... has it gone warm in here?.." Check my status... how about you check your ability to read. Oh, how silly of me, I have ignored those who for reasons of social deprivation do not know how to read.... Let me fix that for you... [LEARN HOW TO READ]I am a business, I am in the business of selling intoxicating liquids, I am not a (beeep)ing SCHOOL, the school is way down the road, go there is you need to learn to read, otherwise, you have to be able to read to enter the premises. The door says "pull". The door also has opening times. It also has age restrictions. Not reading and understanding them is YOUR problem. reminds me of a year in the paarenticeship program. the director of training had to go to the state capitol to explain why no females had been indentured the previous year. "we only had two applicants - neither of them were legally eligible for the program"
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Post by ironhold on Mar 28, 2015 18:55:09 GMT
As an adult white male with no criminal record, I'm not eligible to receive state financial assistance for Obamacare since I'm not already receiving any other form of aid.
My policy is $175 / month for medical-only (no vision or dental). Said policy has a $6000 / year deductible. Put it together, and I'd have to shell out $8100 / year before it will actually kick in.
I'm only looking to make $10000 - $12000 this year unless I can successfully change careers or get a promotion.
"Affordable" Care Act my fanny.
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Post by the light works on Mar 28, 2015 19:29:00 GMT
As an adult white male with no criminal record, I'm not eligible to receive state financial assistance for Obamacare since I'm not already receiving any other form of aid. My policy is $175 / month for medical-only (no vision or dental). Said policy has a $6000 / year deductible. Put it together, and I'd have to shell out $8100 / year before it will actually kick in. I'm only looking to make $10000 - $12000 this year unless I can successfully change careers or get a promotion. "Affordable" Care Act my fanny. compare this to $1000 a month with a $5000 a year deductible, and a max out of pocket of $25,000, and you will see what I was fighting until they dropped me on a technicality.
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Post by OziRiS on Mar 28, 2015 22:06:22 GMT
My typical response to "check your privilege" is "check your reading comprehension" My typical response to "You're a racist!" is "Well, seeing as I didn't bring up race at all, but based on MY skin color, you automatically assumed I would, who's really the racist here?"
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Post by ironhold on Mar 30, 2015 17:29:08 GMT
This should go in the "How Stupid Can You Be?" thread, but it involves a politician and so here goes. link w/ audioIndiana state representative Jud McMilin (R) decided to introduce his 18-month-old child to a few of his fellows in the state legislature. One of the other representatives, Vanessa Summers (D), was appalled by the fact that the child was scared to be around her and so accused the child of being racist. Yes, an 18-month-old who is still in the "stranger danger" phase was accused of being "racist" because he was spooked by an unfamiliar face. Summers has apologized for the actual remarks, but not because of how asinine they were; she's only apologizing for having gotten caught making such remarks.
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 30, 2015 17:52:06 GMT
This should go in the "How Stupid Can You Be?" thread, but it involves a politician and so here goes. link w/ audioIndiana state representative Jud McMilin (R) decided to introduce his 18-month-old child to a few of his fellows in the state legislature. One of the other representatives, Vanessa Summers (D), was appalled by the fact that the child was scared to be around her and so accused the child of being racist. Yes, an 18-month-old who is still in the "stranger danger" phase was accused of being "racist" because he was spooked by an unfamiliar face. Summers has apologized for the actual remarks, but not because of how asinine they were; she's only apologizing for having gotten caught making such remarks. McMilin's response should have been; "No, he's not afraid of you because of your race, he's afraid because you're so stone cold ugly."
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Post by the light works on Mar 30, 2015 23:49:15 GMT
This should go in the "How Stupid Can You Be?" thread, but it involves a politician and so here goes. link w/ audioIndiana state representative Jud McMilin (R) decided to introduce his 18-month-old child to a few of his fellows in the state legislature. One of the other representatives, Vanessa Summers (D), was appalled by the fact that the child was scared to be around her and so accused the child of being racist. Yes, an 18-month-old who is still in the "stranger danger" phase was accused of being "racist" because he was spooked by an unfamiliar face. Summers has apologized for the actual remarks, but not because of how asinine they were; she's only apologizing for having gotten caught making such remarks. McMilin's response should have been; "No, he's not afraid of you because of your race, he's afraid because you're so stone cold ugly." because she's been trained that democrats eat babies.
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 31, 2015 0:51:40 GMT
McMilin's response should have been; "No, he's not afraid of you because of your race, he's afraid because you're so stone cold ugly." because she's been trained that democrats eat babies. While we all know that's true, I didn't want to get political.
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Post by the light works on Mar 31, 2015 1:01:52 GMT
because she's been trained that democrats eat babies. While we all know that's true, I didn't want to get political. That's reached meme status.
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 31, 2015 6:44:00 GMT
Bull Feathers, he scare of you 'cos you is a bloody lawyer, and he aint stupid.....
There is a difference between lawyers and normal people. That aint political, thats true.
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Post by ironhold on Apr 6, 2015 1:55:58 GMT
For those who do not know - The state of Indiana recently passed a law stating that the state government had to consider whether any laws were placing an undue burden on peoples' religious beliefs and if the burden represented the "best" way to protect the public interest. The idea was to make the law in keeping with a 1990s law passed by the federal government, which in turn was intended to try and balance the right of people to worship as they see fit with the need of the government to protect the general public. Shortly after the law was passed, a local reporter decided to stir the pot by trolling local small businesses. They found one small business - a pizzeria - whose owners said that they would not cater gay weddings due to religious issues. They'd serve any and all customers who came through the front door, but they wouldn't cater. The reporter spun things into a whole big scare about the place supposedly using the law to discriminate against gays. In short order, gay rights proponents were threatening to burn the place down. A third-party responded by setting up a GoFundMe account so that the owners could have operating capital to pay the bills while they've been forced to shut down due to the threats. Although the plan was to raise $25K, they've since accrued $800K. In response, another reporter has decided to stir the pot.The reporter reported the GoFundMe account as being fraudulent and then used their Twitter account - which bears the name of the news agency they're with - to talk smack about the fundraising effort and the owners of the pizzeria. Said reporter doesn't understand why anyone could ever hate her for what she did.
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Post by the light works on Apr 6, 2015 2:17:56 GMT
For those who do not know - The state of Indiana recently passed a law stating that the state government had to consider whether any laws were placing an undue burden on peoples' religious beliefs and if the burden represented the "best" way to protect the public interest. The idea was to make the law in keeping with a 1990s law passed by the federal government, which in turn was intended to try and balance the right of people to worship as they see fit with the need of the government to protect the general public. Shortly after the law was passed, a local reporter decided to stir the pot by trolling local small businesses. They found one small business - a pizzeria - whose owners said that they would not cater gay weddings due to religious issues. They'd serve any and all customers who came through the front door, but they wouldn't cater. The reporter spun things into a whole big scare about the place supposedly using the law to discriminate against gays. In short order, gay rights proponents were threatening to burn the place down. A third-party responded by setting up a GoFundMe account so that the owners could have operating capital to pay the bills while they've been forced to shut down due to the threats. Although the plan was to raise $25K, they've since accrued $800K. In response, another reporter has decided to stir the pot.The reporter reported the GoFundMe account as being fraudulent and then used their Twitter account - which bears the name of the news agency they're with - to talk smack about the fundraising effort and the owners of the pizzeria. Said reporter doesn't understand why anyone could ever hate her for what she did. ooh, I think I can guess what third of "kick a** team" she is... when I first started seeing the clickbait headlines I suspected this was going to be overblown.
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Post by OziRiS on Apr 6, 2015 8:30:22 GMT
I can't help but wonder how someone got the owners of the pizza place to comment on whether or not they would cater a gay wedding to begin with.
The sentence: "They said they would not cater a same-sex marriage — in the unlikely event they would be called on to serve pizza at a wedding," just seems to be either taken completely out of context to create an uproar, or to have been baited out of them for the same reason.
ADDENDUM: Even so, it seems that the so-called "reporter" from CBS6 who originally ran with this story realized that no one in their right mind would get a pizza place to cater their wedding, so reporting what they actually said wouldn't really create the uproar he/she was looking for and that's why it was changed to "won't serve gays at all". The "Won't cater gay weddings" thing would be on par with me saying, "I won't serve roast duck to people from Saturn's moon Titan." No one's ever going to ask me to, so who cares? Only the true hate spreaders would even want to comment on that and those are rabid idiots, even if they DO call themselves "liberal", so no one cares what they think.
Also, it strikes me as extremely hypocritical for someone to scream, "EQUAL RIGHTS FOR US, OR WE WON'T ALLOW YOUR BUSINESS TO EXIST AT ALL!"
Why someone hasn't pointed that out in the media just goes to show that we've come to a point where saying ANYTHING critical about a minority is such a no-no that the media will gladly go out of their way to self-censor. It's a slippery slope...
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 6, 2015 9:05:04 GMT
FALSELY claimed..... Well, there is your problem.
To then pursue them into a second charge, well...
I have to ask, did missus "special" not get her princess treatment when she wented all "Doncha know who I am?" on them?....
Heck, I think I could actually withdraw my support for freedom of speech from her. She has no right to talk any more.
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Post by the light works on Apr 6, 2015 14:24:36 GMT
I can't help but wonder how someone got the owners of the pizza place to comment on whether or not they would cater a gay wedding to begin with. The sentence: "They said they would not cater a same-sex marriage — in the unlikely event they would be called on to serve pizza at a wedding," just seems to be either taken completely out of context to create an uproar, or to have been baited out of them for the same reason. ADDENDUM: Even so, it seems that the so-called "reporter" from CBS6 who originally ran with this story realized that no one in their right mind would get a pizza place to cater their wedding, so reporting what they actually said wouldn't really create the uproar he/she was looking for and that's why it was changed to "won't serve gays at all". The "Won't cater gay weddings" thing would be on par with me saying, "I won't serve roast duck to people from Saturn's moon Titan." No one's ever going to ask me to, so who cares? Only the true hate spreaders would even want to comment on that and those are rabid idiots, even if they DO call themselves "liberal", so no one cares what they think. Also, it strikes me as extremely hypocritical for someone to scream, "EQUAL RIGHTS FOR US, OR WE WON'T ALLOW YOUR BUSINESS TO EXIST AT ALL!" Why someone hasn't pointed that out in the media just goes to show that we've come to a point where saying ANYTHING critical about a minority is such a no-no that the media will gladly go out of their way to self-censor. It's a slippery slope... which supports my contention that "gay rights" is about them imposing their philosophy on others, not about protecting them from oppression by others. they don't want Christians to allow them to go about their lives in peace - they want Christians to sanction their behavior.
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Post by OziRiS on Apr 6, 2015 19:57:14 GMT
which supports my contention that "gay rights" is about them imposing their philosophy on others, not about protecting them from oppression by others. they don't want Christians to allow them to go about their lives in peace - they want Christians to sanction their behavior. A faction of them feel that way. But there are factions of Christians that feel the rest of the world should bow to their will as well, just as there are factions of Muslims, Catholics, Menonites, Jews, disabled people, women, mothers, fathers, singles, blacks, asians, whites, environmentalists, vegans and pretty much any other denomination you could dream up that feel they have the right to more rights than the rest of the world. We don't need legislation that ensures rights for a single group of people. We need legislation that ensures the rights of ALL groups of people, including the ones who are being victimized by thoughtless outrage from others.
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