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Post by blazerrose on Jun 4, 2015 1:55:37 GMT
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 4, 2015 10:04:00 GMT
Wow... how not to write an article?.. how to mislead the audience right from the start?.. how to confuse the matters even further?..
Start with the link, part of it says proving it does work differently....Erm, thats dead wrong, when applied to the suggested myth we worked on on the boards?...
It DOESNT work differently in different hemispheres as the Myth suggestions suggests, in Toilets and Hand basins.
It works in LARGER areas, but NOT as suggested in Toilets?...
Even his own articles he has written on the matter were concerning Toilets and Hand Basins, in which, it doesnt work, and, as researched elsewhere, can rely on the actual plumbing to determine the water drain direction.
The myth we researched was all down to Toilets and domestic basins.
As stated...
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Post by the light works on Jun 4, 2015 14:35:52 GMT
so the best summary is, under perfect conditions, the coriolis effect will influence the swirl, but the flaw in the porcelain next to the drain will have a bigger influence.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 5, 2015 6:32:53 GMT
Answer to TLW, Yes.
The chance you will get a perfect system is a lottery.
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Post by c64 on Feb 14, 2016 11:00:35 GMT
According to this evidence, my house is built on the equator:
In my main bathroom (3th floor), the water flushes clockwise.
In my "water closet" (2.5th floor), the water flushes straight.
The toilet on the ground floor flushes counter-clockwise.
So the equator must be going through my house somewhere between the 1th and the 2th floor and the top half of my house is on the northern hemisphere and the bottom half is on the southern hemisphere.
What is really going on is that the flushing direction is set by the manufacturer of the ceramics and "flat-flush" toilets don't swirl at all.
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Post by the light works on Feb 15, 2016 16:19:31 GMT
According to this evidence, my house is built on the equator: In my main bathroom (3th floor), the water flushes clockwise. In my "water closet" (2.5th floor), the water flushes straight. The toilet on the ground floor flushes counter-clockwise. So the equator must be going through my house somewhere between the 1th and the 2th floor and the top half of my house is on the northern hemisphere and the bottom half is on the southern hemisphere. What is really going on is that the flushing direction is set by the manufacturer of the ceramics and "flat-flush" toilets don't swirl at all. we have a model of toilet, here, that has the bowl rinse outlets releasing the water in a counterclockwise direction into the bowl. try getting THAT to swirl clockwise in australia. |
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Post by c64 on Feb 15, 2016 18:47:14 GMT
According to this evidence, my house is built on the equator: In my main bathroom (3th floor), the water flushes clockwise. In my "water closet" (2.5th floor), the water flushes straight. The toilet on the ground floor flushes counter-clockwise. So the equator must be going through my house somewhere between the 1th and the 2th floor and the top half of my house is on the northern hemisphere and the bottom half is on the southern hemisphere. What is really going on is that the flushing direction is set by the manufacturer of the ceramics and "flat-flush" toilets don't swirl at all. we have a model of toilet, here, that has the bowl rinse outlets releasing the water in a counterclockwise direction into the bowl. try getting THAT to swirl clockwise in australia. If you speed up the RPM of the world high enough, it should work. It's just like with penguins. Everybody says that they can't fly. They have perfect aerodynamic properties and they can fly - there is just the small problem of the take off velocity of 300 mph! |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 16, 2016 8:03:41 GMT
My toilets dont swirl.
Downdraught is fed equally in both directions under the rim to flush all sides of the bowl, front to back, and then a u-bend pipe out backwards, to the stack, where would it "swirl" other than mass randomness?..
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Post by c64 on Feb 20, 2016 19:58:11 GMT
My toilets dont swirl. Downdraught is fed equally in both directions under the rim to flush all sides of the bowl, front to back, and then a u-bend pipe out backwards, to the stack, where would it "swirl" other than mass randomness?.. There are 3 different kinds of toilets using a large bowl. In Europe, all the water from the tank enters the bowl from above.  They usually seem to swirl but that doesn't matter for the function. In central Europe, there is another kind (around 30% of all toilets). Similar but the "target zone" is dry.  And then there is the 3th kind which is standard in the US:  More than half of the water used can't be seen. It enters the drain behind the hole in the bowl causing extra suction making the water really swirl. This uses up a lot of water but is much harder to clog and actually more hygienic since almost all the water is replaced while the other kinds usually keep some of the old water which is just diluted. Using a toilet rim block and modern chemicals take care of the problem any way so there is no reason to use the wasteful US kind any more. |
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Post by the light works on Feb 20, 2016 23:26:57 GMT
My toilets dont swirl. Downdraught is fed equally in both directions under the rim to flush all sides of the bowl, front to back, and then a u-bend pipe out backwards, to the stack, where would it "swirl" other than mass randomness?.. There are 3 different kinds of toilets using a large bowl. In Europe, all the water from the tank enters the bowl from above. They usually seem to swirl but that doesn't matter for the function. In central Europe, there is another kind (around 30% of all toilets). Similar but the "target zone" is dry. And then there is the 3th kind which is standard in the US: More than half of the water used can't be seen. It enters the drain behind the hole in the bowl causing extra suction making the water really swirl. This uses up a lot of water but is much harder to clog and actually more hygienic since almost all the water is replaced while the other kinds usually keep some of the old water which is just diluted. Using a toilet rim block and modern chemicals take care of the problem any way so there is no reason to use the wasteful US kind any more. actually, our newer venturi flush toilets use half the water of traditional top flush toilets. we have pressure boosted models that can flush on about a half gallon of water. instead of putting water in the wide part of the bowl until it displaces it over the trap, it pushes the water directly. it's noisy, but once you pull the trigger, the poo is GONE. |
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Post by c64 on Feb 20, 2016 23:32:39 GMT
actually, our newer venturi flush toilets use half the water of traditional top flush toilets. we have pressure boosted models that can flush on about a half gallon of water. instead of putting water in the wide part of the bowl until it displaces it over the trap, it pushes the water directly. it's noisy, but once you pull the trigger, the poo is GONE. Over here, a "STOP" feature is standard for a long time now. If you did #1, you can stop the flow using only a little water. It works best with the flat-flush toilets. The modern tanks mounted inside the wall have separate buttons for #1 and #2. The one I had installed in the roof flat right before I moved into the larger flat below was set to 0.8 liters for #1 and 1.9 l for #2. |
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Post by the light works on Feb 20, 2016 23:40:19 GMT
Over here, a "STOP" feature is standard for a long time now. If you did #1, you can stop the flow using only a little water. It works best with the flat-flush toilets. The modern tanks mounted inside the wall have separate buttons for #1 and #2. The one I had installed in the roof flat right before I moved into the larger flat below was set to 0.8 liters for #1 and 1.9 l for #2. our high end models have two buttons - one does a half flush for liquid only, and the other does a full volume flush for passing an act of congress. our basic models have a single function key. if you press and release, the flapper will close at about half volume. holding the key will dump the entire tank. the problem with this idea is nobody ever explains it to the customer. |
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Post by c64 on Feb 21, 2016 0:38:51 GMT
our high end models have two buttons - one does a half flush for liquid only, and the other does a full volume flush for passing an act of congress. our basic models have a single function key. if you press and release, the flapper will close at about half volume. holding the key will dump the entire tank. the problem with this idea is nobody ever explains it to the customer. The old tanks have a hinge in the lever so you can lift the plug but not force it down again. Just a simple cable tie or a piece of wire can fix this so you can upgrade a "STOP" feature to any tank. There are weights on the market which do the trick but a piece of wire is cheaper and you still have the old "fire and forget" mode.  |
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Post by c64 on Feb 21, 2016 0:57:35 GMT
our high end models have two buttons Ever been in Japan? Now figure that one out without getting wet!  |
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Post by the light works on Feb 21, 2016 1:12:34 GMT
our high end models have two buttons Ever been in Japan? Now figure that one out without getting wet! I've put in power for a couple toilet seats like that. |
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Post by blazerrose on Feb 22, 2016 1:34:07 GMT
Those toilets are amazing, though. Heated seats in the winter are lovely, and let's just say the bidet feature comes in handy sometimes.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 24, 2016 6:44:15 GMT
I believe the cost of one can be upwards of £3,000....
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2016 15:15:48 GMT
I believe the cost of one can be upwards of £3,000.... I saw the retrofit seats advertised for just a couple hundred dollars. |
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