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Post by WhutScreenName on Oct 30, 2015 20:20:06 GMT
Not a lawsuit yet... but I could see it going there soon enough, no matter what the outcome of the hearing is. There are pics of the Jeep if you want to go to the Fox news Page, but here's the story.
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 30, 2015 22:17:26 GMT
If that does turn into a lawsuit - and I believe it should - I don't really see how it fits into this thread as "weird". If anything is weird about this, it's how the tow company could possibly think they could get away with a bill like that! I hope they're charged with fraud!
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 1, 2015 7:21:33 GMT
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 1, 2015 13:20:27 GMT
Number of times pride has been severely hurt: 8 and counting 1: Running like little girl from scary man 2: Falling over and hurting self, while running like little girl from scary man 3: Explaining situation at emergency room, crying like little girl 4: Filing law suit, expecting world to feel sorry for little girl 5: Losing law suit, probably crying and throwing hissy fit like little girl 6: Appealing outcome, losing again and being forced to pay legal fees for park, all the while crying like little girl 7: Facing world after losing law suit, moping like little girl 8: Being publicly ridiculed for acting and crying like a little girl I imagine quite a bit of laughter ensued after each occurance
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Post by the light works on Nov 1, 2015 14:29:08 GMT
If that does turn into a lawsuit - and I believe it should - I don't really see how it fits into this thread as "weird". If anything is weird about this, it's how the tow company could possibly think they could get away with a bill like that! I hope they're charged with fraud! I hope the whole community decides they are a pack of total incompetents and never calls them again. I do agree the Jeep is a total loss, though. seriously - here's your comparison: Attachment Deletedthis was 20 feet down an embankment through a swamp and hit a major power line structure. it was about a 10 minute one-(small)-truck winch-out.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Nov 12, 2015 21:22:24 GMT
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Post by the light works on Nov 13, 2015 2:24:51 GMT
so we just need someone who has used the two phrases earlier to file a suit against him.
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 13, 2015 10:38:17 GMT
I can cite the whole internet search of Haters goin'a hate" or h8ters if you need to spell it badly, and the plethora of memes dedicated to that, also I can cite "those that do, do, those that cant, complain", as a possible source for both sides. And who said that first..... I was born before Swift (By a long chalk) and fist heard that on the playground as a child.....
Its in common speech, and possibly long before either one decided to sing it.
Cant remember the case, but one plagiarism case revolved around someone copping someone else, and their respons was "I dont like that person, (Or words to that effect....) I would turn off the radio if their songs played, so by that, can you even prove I even heard the song they claim I copied?.."
That would be like you all hearing me say, or seeing me type, a dozen words together that may be loosely similar to a bieber song. I have never listened to bieber willingly, and would tune out if it was playing in the background?.. so why would I even try to copy his miserable wining anyway?..
To be truthful, if I ever thought I was "aping" his words, I would change them on purpose.
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 13, 2015 14:21:12 GMT
I wonder if the people who first thought of some of the worst clichés in music history make royalties whenever someone else plagiarises them...?
You know the ones
- Love sent from above - I'm on my knees, begging you please - Together forever - You're making me crazy/I'm going crazy - I love you so much it hurts - You've taken my heart and I'm falling apart
And so on and so forth...
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Post by the light works on Nov 13, 2015 14:48:25 GMT
I wonder if the people who first thought of some of the worst clichés in music history make royalties whenever someone else plagiarises them...? You know the ones - Love sent from above - I'm on my knees, begging you please - Together forever - You're making me crazy/I'm going crazy - I love you so much it hurts - You've taken my heart and I'm falling apart And so on and so forth... on that note, it has been ruled that only the specific piano arrangement for happy birthday is actually protected by copyright. existing royalties remain paid, but no new royalties may be assessed on a capella singing.
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Post by c64 on Nov 29, 2015 13:07:16 GMT
If you wanted to present any of those cases to a lawyer over here, good luck finding one that wouldn't laugh at you before telling you to leave and throwing his stapler at the back of your head as you turned to open the door. Depends if you have insurance or not and the reputation of the lawyer. If the lawyer doesn't care about reputation and your insurance covers all the costs, there is no reason why the lawyer would refuse to earn easy money.
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Post by the light works on Dec 1, 2015 4:52:22 GMT
I am reminded of someone who filed a paternity suit against Boy George some years back.
Boy George's response to the suit: "I've never had sex with a woman."
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jan 27, 2016 21:16:57 GMT
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 27, 2016 22:33:41 GMT
Really?
If you ask me, this story is full of losers, but the biggest one has to be the girl who's now lost her dad, because both her parents weren't adult enough to find a solution to the problem.
Depending on the content in those texts, one parent might be slightly less of an idiot than the other, but we don't know. We don't know if dad was overreacting, mom was underreacting, or if it was somewhere in between where anyone would call the texts inappropriate, but determining just how inappropriate they were comes down to how liberal/conservative the reader is.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter if one parent was more right than the other in their individual assesments of inappropriateness. The fact that they both ended up taking it this far is childish and appaling by any standard. If any of them truly wanted what was best for their daughter, they'd have figured out a compromise, instead of making this big a deal out of a phone and a couple of texts.
They were both obviously more concerned with "winning" the fight with each other than with doing what was best for their daughter, because no one with an ounce of common sense in their heads could possibly believe that driving a wedge between a child and their parents is a good thing to do.
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Post by the light works on Jan 28, 2016 2:16:45 GMT
Really? If you ask me, this story is full of losers, but the biggest one has to be the girl who's now lost her dad, because both her parents weren't adult enough to find a solution to the problem. Depending on the content in those texts, one parent might be slightly less of an idiot than the other, but we don't know. We don't know if dad was overreacting, mom was underreacting, or if it was somewhere in between where anyone would call the texts inappropriate, but determining just how inappropriate they were comes down to how liberal/conservative the reader is. Anyway, it doesn't really matter if one parent was more right than the other in their individual assesments of inappropriateness. The fact that they both ended up taking it this far is childish and appaling by any standard. If any of them truly wanted what was best for their daughter, they'd have figured out a compromise, instead of making this big a deal out of a phone and a couple of texts. They were both obviously more concerned with "winning" the fight with each other than with doing what was best for their daughter, because no one with an ounce of common sense in their heads could possibly believe that driving a wedge between a child and their parents is a good thing to do. yeah - first order of business is to quantify inappropriate. sounds like the root of the problem, though, is mom bought her a phone and dad doesn't think she should have one.
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 28, 2016 2:38:15 GMT
Really? If you ask me, this story is full of losers, but the biggest one has to be the girl who's now lost her dad, because both her parents weren't adult enough to find a solution to the problem. Depending on the content in those texts, one parent might be slightly less of an idiot than the other, but we don't know. We don't know if dad was overreacting, mom was underreacting, or if it was somewhere in between where anyone would call the texts inappropriate, but determining just how inappropriate they were comes down to how liberal/conservative the reader is. Anyway, it doesn't really matter if one parent was more right than the other in their individual assesments of inappropriateness. The fact that they both ended up taking it this far is childish and appaling by any standard. If any of them truly wanted what was best for their daughter, they'd have figured out a compromise, instead of making this big a deal out of a phone and a couple of texts. They were both obviously more concerned with "winning" the fight with each other than with doing what was best for their daughter, because no one with an ounce of common sense in their heads could possibly believe that driving a wedge between a child and their parents is a good thing to do. yeah - first order of business is to quantify inappropriate. Exactly. The article doesn't say if it's dad flying off the handle over a text from a friend about how cute she thinks some boy is, if mom is ignoring statutory rape waiting to happen, or if it's somewhere in between. Leaving that "little detail" out, it's easy to frame it however you want to. sounds like the root of the problem, though, is mom bought her a phone and dad doesn't think she should have one. Or at least dad doesn't think she should be using it for whatever it was she was using it for.
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Post by the light works on Jan 28, 2016 3:01:23 GMT
yeah - first order of business is to quantify inappropriate. Exactly. The article doesn't say if it's dad flying off the handle over a text from a friend about how cute she thinks some boy is, if mom is ignoring statutory rape waiting to happen, or if it's somewhere in between. Leaving that "little detail" out, it's easy to frame it however you want to. sounds like the root of the problem, though, is mom bought her a phone and dad doesn't think she should have one. Or at least dad doesn't think she should be using it for whatever it was she was using it for. I think the philosophical difference was the root of the issue - her behavior was the clincher.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 28, 2016 9:21:06 GMT
My kids have phones, at the moment, "On contract", and have been warned that as its my name that signed the contract, miss-use will result in me taking back what is mine....
If the kid decided to fund his own contract, then so be it. Miss-use depends on the crime, but, if I find them downloading illegal stuff via my own home network, I will first remove that phone from the wifi access, and then... this depends on how it was downloaded. If I find they are using the phones in a way that could be considered trolling, I will confiscate the phone. Dont care who owns it, no kid of mine will be a black-hat troll.
There will be discussion, there will be resolution, the kid will get the phone back eventually, on the rounds of behave or else. As in whilst you live under my roof I am responsible for you and your actions.
I say Dad did right in the above case. Especially whilst sticking to his own standards whilst Mom and daughter had hissy fits.... I say Mom did wrong, buy not working with Father to resolve situation, but instead demanding father lower his own standards and let snowflake "get away with it", thus promoting selfish behaviour. And if Mom cant agree with Dad, and precious snowflake gets to do what she wants, he is best off out of there.
Unfortunately, I can.
Below for discussion purposes, I am sure as hell I am glad there is distance between me and these "Family problems", although they may be a bit too close to home for full comfort here...
I have experience of precious snowflake kid who will NOT be told to not kick football in house.... He is damaging the home, but every time he is told off, "mommy" sits on the kids side. Younger daughter who is three has a nasty habit of running into your legs.... Now you all know I am of the three-legged variety, I have a stick?... Both kids see the stick as a play-thing and will try to take it from me, often whilst I am still using it. Mommy sides with kids "Why cant they play with it for a bit?." Because is that brat knocks me off my feet I need it?..
Mommy needs a wedge smashed in there to divorce her from over=protecting those kids from "Big nasty man". Those kids will act out eventually and get a face full of someone who doesnt appreciate their bad behaviour... who's problem will that be?.. Not theirs?.. not Mommy who didnt teach them to behave?... Those kids need mommy to stop protecting them so they can grow up and learn to behave before their own behaviour lands them in trouble.
I will no longer visit that house at any time, and if they visit a mutual friend, I am out of there before it kicks off, because our mutual friend has strict house rules that her own kids must adhere to. Unfortunately, her kids and her requests get ignored by this terror family... and as the mommy of the terror family is older sister, she believes she has rights to terrorise younger family. I see that sister act breaking up with some bad fallout. Unfortunately, Father is one of my good friends, and his father, Grandfather to the kids, is also a good friend. They are trying to get mommy to see sense... No I wont be bought in on the discussion. I reserve the right to show just how "yellow" I am on this, as they know I disagree. Thankfully they have the respect to allow me to run away and hide until this blows over.
And yes, I do realise there is someone else on the board with similar "family" problems with sisters who wont allow the kids proper discipline... You can pick your friends, but you are stuck with family?... May I remind you all that my Fathers family and I do not talk at all because of the fallout over what name was put on my fathers headstone?.. He requested the name everyone knew him as, and even the one I knew he used for the whole of my life, but, "Family" requested his full "sunday" posh name be front and centre... Ignoring my Own Fathers requests.
Family can be awkward, I have learnt when to say "No". My Family see that as a problem.... I dont.
Effectively what I have done is put a huge "Ignore" filter on them.
I also know of a case where a kid went "Off the rails" at a young age, ran away, and effectively cut himself off from family at 16 yrs old. He was sentenced to five years for acts of theft. He is now up for parole. His parents do NOT want him bailed into their care.
When he went on the run from their home, he stole cash credit cards and jewellery to the tune of what they have not yet managed to recover from as it has left them in debt... He has shown no remorse, never apologised, and has stated "well its only my inheritance in advance". The parents are trying to legally divorce themselves from the child.
Unfortunately I know cases where child and parents NEED separation. It should never be so, but an old saying is "Sometimes you have to know when to say No!"
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Post by the light works on Jan 28, 2016 15:40:01 GMT
idea: let the kids play with the stick while you lean on mom.
your off the rails example: he has withdrawn his inheritance and he is over the age of responsibility. therefore his parents have no further obligation to him.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 29, 2016 7:32:21 GMT
idea: let the kids play with the stick while you lean on mom. your off the rails example: he has withdrawn his inheritance and he is over the age of responsibility. therefore his parents have no further obligation to him. 1} have already done that, she dont like it. 2) they are legally fighting to do that already, but divorcing your kids "is not that easy"....
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