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Post by silverdragon on Apr 7, 2017 5:57:58 GMT
I would like to see a law that states no legal lawyer payout should be worth more than the sum being claimed. I would also like to see a law that states that the legal profession should be forced to do low cost low rate law suits as part of their membership of "the bar" or whatever the legal name is for that club they all belong to. And do "So may" per month to retain their certificates. well, the sum being claimed is $90,500 plus 4200 baked goods... The sum being claimed includes lawyers fees. Deduct lawyers fees, and try again?..
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Post by the light works on Apr 7, 2017 13:48:33 GMT
well, the sum being claimed is $90,500 plus 4200 baked goods... The sum being claimed includes lawyers fees. Deduct lawyers fees, and try again?.. i'm still at the "please explain to me how margarine did $100,000.00 worth of damage" point.
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 8, 2017 8:48:44 GMT
The sum being claimed includes lawyers fees. Deduct lawyers fees, and try again?.. i'm still at the "please explain to me how margarine did $100,000.00 worth of damage" point. Damnd Americans claim that snow spoils shoes.?..
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Post by the light works on Apr 8, 2017 9:22:45 GMT
i'm still at the "please explain to me how margarine did $100,000.00 worth of damage" point. Damnd Americans claim that snow spoils shoes.?.. well, I fill our a worker's comp (elf and safe tea) claim if I perspire...
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Post by ponytail61 on May 20, 2017 22:29:46 GMT
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Post by the light works on May 20, 2017 23:41:39 GMT
the story was a bit vague, but it kind of sounds to me like maybe the employee passed the coffee out the window, holding it by the lid and the cup fell out of it. OR the employee passed it out and she grabbed it by the lid. I could be completely wrong, of course. but that would be a different scenario than the McNopes one where she had control of the coffee and took the lid off on purpose. I forget who, but there was someone I lived with who had a habit of not screwing the lid down on the mayo; and I have a habit of picking the jar up by the top. you can see how that might occasionally nearly go wrong.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jul 12, 2017 14:11:59 GMT
Twitter Users Blocked by nope File LawsuitPersonally, I think it's a STUPID lawsuit! I don't buy the argument that it's "designated public forum" in that it's his personal (Yes, I know his the POTUS) feed. I guarantee these same people would be whining/complaining/suing if their roles were reversed too.
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Post by the light works on Jul 12, 2017 15:53:51 GMT
it is an interesting legal question.
it comes down to the question of whether all of the president's correspondence to the public is official correspondence - and whether it is required that ALL means of speech must be unrestricted. from there it goes down the rabbit hole of whether correspondence via a public server is good or bad as compared to a government server or a private server.
personally, I feel if he is using it as a public presidential forum, then it would be subject to the first amendment; in which case only posts that violated laws could be removed and it would require due process to block a person from posting to it. if he is not using it as a public presidential forum, then he should not be posting stuff on it which gives the appearance that he is.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jul 12, 2017 16:06:25 GMT
Maybe this really belongs in the "Welcome to the 21st Century" Thread. Our laws often fail to keep up with technology. This especially seems to be true with most social media type cases. While the actual lawsuit may seem weird and a little silly, the premise behind it isn't and could have far reaching constitutional ramifications. nope himself has stated that he uses his Twitter account as a means to get his message out unfiltered by the press. If that's the case, then he is using it as an official Whitehouse news outlet. No one should be banned from receiving it anymore than someone should not be allowed to see or hear the Whitehouse press briefing.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jul 12, 2017 17:11:52 GMT
Maybe this really belongs in the "Welcome to the 21st Century" Thread. Our laws often fail to keep up with technology. This especially seems to be true with most social media type cases. While the actual lawsuit may seem weird and a little silly, the premise behind it isn't and could have far reaching constitutional ramifications. nope himself has stated that he uses his Twitter account as a means to get his message out unfiltered by the press. If that's the case, then he is using it as an official Whitehouse news outlet. No one should be banned from receiving it anymore than someone should not be allowed to see or hear the Whitehouse press briefing. Darn you Greg! I was certain I couldn't be convinced this was, in any way, worthwhile... but you have a valid argument.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jul 12, 2017 17:36:07 GMT
Maybe this really belongs in the "Welcome to the 21st Century" Thread. Our laws often fail to keep up with technology. This especially seems to be true with most social media type cases. While the actual lawsuit may seem weird and a little silly, the premise behind it isn't and could have far reaching constitutional ramifications. nope himself has stated that he uses his Twitter account as a means to get his message out unfiltered by the press. If that's the case, then he is using it as an official Whitehouse news outlet. No one should be banned from receiving it anymore than someone should not be allowed to see or hear the Whitehouse press briefing. Darn you Greg! I was certain I couldn't be convinced this was, in any way, worthwhile... but you have a valid argument. I don't really know how valid my argument is. There is another side to the story. While his Twitter account may be viewed in the same light as the Whitehouse press briefing, the Whitehouse does control who attends those briefings. Guess that's why we have courts and judges.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 13, 2017 11:01:01 GMT
before reading other peoples reply... I have the twitvrerse thing, which I am starting to get to know. I have already had to block "Something", I cant say someone, because, well, I aint sure?.. from what I can find it was some kind of gay rights hacktavist pressure group that started "Following" me and trying to recruit me?.. I have no problem with their life choices, but I refuse to be "recruited" for anything. I am NOT any kind of activist.
So...
Being blocked. I am presuming from what I have heard elsewhere, certain "Trolls" started making trouble on the twitter thing and started insulting and trying to provoke the |figure that is nope. He blocked them as he was fed up with their continuing trolling....
Now they are complaining?...
So a group of for instance vegetarians start haranguing me for not agreeing with them, and, being me, instead of arguing back, I turn my back and walk away from the argument. In fact, I go somewhere where they can NOT follow, like say inside my own property, and shut the door so they can not enter...
Other people I dont object to CAN enter. as long as they dont start an argument.
You can swap out Vegetarians for Democrats, Republicans, gay right hactavists, Communists, supporters of jeremy corbyn, multilateral ban-the-bom activists... anyone you personally dislike.
\You have the ability to also block them on social media. If they start trouble, away they go, blocked, banned from joining the conversation and starting trouble. The same as we do with trolls on here.
You are SERIOUSLY expecting me to view any kind of legal action to allow those people to continue arguing and get themselves UN-Blockerd to continue the argument?..
I say let them be blocked. It HIS twitverse account, HE makes the rules.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 13, 2017 11:12:58 GMT
On reading others views, I would like to point out.. You CAN view nope accounts twitterings from outside being signed in to twitter. twitter.com/realNopenopeSo NO ONE is being banned from viewing that words he writes... No one. Some people have been banned from viewing it whilst on twitter, "signed in", because then they could make a troll remark not welcome. So whats stopping them using the link I just posted?.. So the argument "Its being hidden" is invalid. The argument "I cant participate" is also invalid, copy and paste, and away you go... They just cant participate in the page that nope receives, because he has decided he doesnt like them. He has effectively shut the door on your invalid troll backside. So what?. If they had behaved..... Therefore, I do not see any evidence that it has interfered with politics, it has just interfered with THEIR brand of trolling. If you dont want someone to ban you, dont provoke them. There are rules of behaviour, stick to them, and accept that some people may not like what you have to say.
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Post by the light works on Jul 13, 2017 14:00:59 GMT
On reading others views, I would like to point out.. You CAN view nope accounts twitterings from outside being signed in to twitter. twitter.com/realNopenopeSo NO ONE is being banned from viewing that words he writes... No one. Some people have been banned from viewing it whilst on twitter, "signed in", because then they could make a troll remark not welcome. So whats stopping them using the link I just posted?.. So the argument "Its being hidden" is invalid. The argument "I cant participate" is also invalid, copy and paste, and away you go... They just cant participate in the page that nope receives, because he has decided he doesnt like them. He has effectively shut the door on your invalid troll backside. So what?. If they had behaved..... Therefore, I do not see any evidence that it has interfered with politics, it has just interfered with THEIR brand of trolling. If you dont want someone to ban you, dont provoke them. There are rules of behaviour, stick to them, and accept that some people may not like what you have to say. the argument is that if he is using it for ANY people to address the president; then he is required to use it for ALL people to address the president.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 14, 2017 5:07:23 GMT
If you cant satisfy the requirements to address the president, as in do so politely and with respect and dont be a [duck], then I suggest you loose the right to troll the president. You had the right, you did something to get you banned.?..
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Post by the light works on Jul 14, 2017 14:03:44 GMT
If you cant satisfy the requirements to address the president, as in do so politely and with respect and dont be a [duck], then I suggest you loose the right to troll the president. You had the right, you did something to get you banned.?.. that requires due process of law, not the president getting mad because you challenged something he said.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 16, 2017 7:23:10 GMT
If you cant satisfy the requirements to address the president, as in do so politely and with respect and dont be a [duck], then I suggest you loose the right to troll the president. You had the right, you did something to get you banned.?.. that requires due process of law, not the president getting mad because you challenged something he said. What is the difference between the person of the president and any other Twit-verse user?. [Careful how you spell that, I nearly got filtered there...And onwards, what is the difference then between the President of the Yew-Nited-States official Twit account, and the personage of any other person on earth. If I do not like nope nosing about my account, I block him, thats my choice. Therefore, is he not free to also block me?. Or is that undemocratic in some way?. I do not know the full facts of the case, or case by case why they say they been blocked, nor does it matter, I am just challenging the challengers in that if you cant plat poly-ticks as well as you cant plat fog, dont be surprised if you upset a few people who dont want to talk to you and block your conversations. I ask, what letter of law states the POTUS in person or in private MUST stand there and be insulted and/or listen to YOU more than anyone else you pass on the street. Especially if you have rather an abrupt way of "telling them how much you dislike them"....
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Post by the light works on Jul 16, 2017 15:13:39 GMT
that requires due process of law, not the president getting mad because you challenged something he said. What is the difference between the person of the president and any other Twit-verse user?. [Careful how you spell that, I nearly got filtered there...And onwards, what is the difference then between the President of the Yew-Nited-States official Twit account, and the personage of any other person on earth. If I do not like nope nosing about my account, I block him, thats my choice. Therefore, is he not free to also block me?. Or is that undemocratic in some way?. I do not know the full facts of the case, or case by case why they say they been blocked, nor does it matter, I am just challenging the challengers in that if you cant plat poly-ticks as well as you cant plat fog, dont be surprised if you upset a few people who dont want to talk to you and block your conversations. I ask, what letter of law states the POTUS in person or in private MUST stand there and be insulted and/or listen to YOU more than anyone else you pass on the street. Especially if you have rather an abrupt way of "telling them how much you dislike them".... the difference is whether it is a personal account or a business account. if it is Nope nope's private Twitter account, then he has the right to "my house, my rules" but if it is the President's Official Forum, then the constitution makes the rules, and the constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (emphasis added to highlight the relevant clause)
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 17, 2017 6:59:10 GMT
What is the difference between the person of the president and any other Twit-verse user?. [Careful how you spell that, I nearly got filtered there...And onwards, what is the difference then between the President of the Yew-Nited-States official Twit account, and the personage of any other person on earth. If I do not like nope nosing about my account, I block him, thats my choice. Therefore, is he not free to also block me?. Or is that undemocratic in some way?. I do not know the full facts of the case, or case by case why they say they been blocked, nor does it matter, I am just challenging the challengers in that if you cant plat poly-ticks as well as you cant plat fog, dont be surprised if you upset a few people who dont want to talk to you and block your conversations. I ask, what letter of law states the POTUS in person or in private MUST stand there and be insulted and/or listen to YOU more than anyone else you pass on the street. Especially if you have rather an abrupt way of "telling them how much you dislike them".... the difference is whether it is a personal account or a business account. if it is Nope nope's private Twitter account, then he has the right to "my house, my rules" but if it is the President's Official Forum, then the constitution makes the rules, and the constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (emphasis added to highlight the relevant clause) Then in this case, as it is his own private twitter account, he reserves the right to censor who posts on his "wall" or whatever it is they call it. If he uses the official whitehouse twitter, then its different. But we are told this is his twitverse account that he held before he became POTUS... ?..
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Post by the light works on Jul 17, 2017 13:53:32 GMT
the difference is whether it is a personal account or a business account. if it is Nope nope's private Twitter account, then he has the right to "my house, my rules" but if it is the President's Official Forum, then the constitution makes the rules, and the constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (emphasis added to highlight the relevant clause) Then in this case, as it is his own private twitter account, he reserves the right to censor who posts on his "wall" or whatever it is they call it. If he uses the official whitehouse twitter, then its different. But we are told this is his twitverse account that he held before he became POTUS... ?.. and he has said that he is using it as his presidental outlet. the lawsuit is over whether his usage pattern has made it a business account. kind of like I have had my mobile phone for years before it became a business phone, but now that I am using it as a business phone, I have to allow people to cold call it.
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