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Post by the light works on May 27, 2017 2:12:45 GMT
Many westerns have a shootout with folks in a cabin vs people outside. One thing that's always interesting to me, is just how easy it is to break the glass out of the window. They simply tap it with either the but of their gun, or even the barrel and it breaks and falls out, ready made shooting hole. I'll be the first to admit I'm no expert on types of glass etc... but if they broke that easily all the time, what good was it? Seems even a bird flying into it would break? 's_Mill_massacre In 1838, members of the Missouri state militia rode into the settlement of Haun's Mill and started blasting away at everyone they could find. A number of the town's men tried to set up a defensive position in the town's blacksmith shop, a log structure. However, the openings between the logs were wide enough that the militia were able to shoot through the gaps. Everyone who was in there died, including three young children who were executed by the militia after having been found to still be alive. Three guesses what minority group was being targeted and why most US history books don't mention it. Given this, there's the prospect that if other structures likewise had such gaps there wouldn't have been a need to burst out any windows. considering that almost every account of the attack is on an LDS sponsored site or a crowdsourced site; I think I can guess who the innocent victims were - but do your sources mention that the attack was the END of an armed conflict between the mormons and the people who were living in the area - which included an attack on a militia unit 6 days before, and the sacking of a local store within the previous 2 weeks. it has been found, by the way, that Hawn survived the attack - was not Mormon, and ultimately died within a hundred miles of where I live. perhaps it is time for you to look at your claims here, alongside your comments about the college protest in Olympia Washington, and decide whether you wish to cut the students some slack. |
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Post by ironhold on May 27, 2017 2:56:30 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haun's_Mill_massacre In 1838, members of the Missouri state militia rode into the settlement of Haun's Mill and started blasting away at everyone they could find. A number of the town's men tried to set up a defensive position in the town's blacksmith shop, a log structure. However, the openings between the logs were wide enough that the militia were able to shoot through the gaps. Everyone who was in there died, including three young children who were executed by the militia after having been found to still be alive. Three guesses what minority group was being targeted and why most US history books don't mention it. Given this, there's the prospect that if other structures likewise had such gaps there wouldn't have been a need to burst out any windows. considering that almost every account of the attack is on an LDS sponsored site or a crowdsourced site; I think I can guess who the innocent victims were - but do your sources mention that the attack was the END of an armed conflict between the mormons and the people who were living in the area - which included an attack on a militia unit 6 days before, and the sacking of a local store within the previous 2 weeks. it has been found, by the way, that Hawn survived the attack - was not Mormon, and ultimately died within a hundred miles of where I live. Basically, the local residents of Missouri didn't like the fact that a large, "strange" sect that was predominantly abolitionist was setting up shop where they lived, and so paranoia quickly spread. When a fire & brimstone sermon aimed at dissenters was taken as a call to action against people who wouldn't convert, the locals took up arms. Things came to a head when a guy from the state militia deserted his post in order to join one of the brigand groups that had been raiding settlements. When he got dropped during a skirmish, the governor was falsely informed that his death was the result of an attack on a militia unit. This led to the "Extermination Order", a pogrom demanding the death or removal of anyone who was LDS. Haun's Mill happened days later. I've met peeps from Missouri who didn't even know about it. No joke. |
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Post by the light works on May 27, 2017 3:15:59 GMT
considering that almost every account of the attack is on an LDS sponsored site or a crowdsourced site; I think I can guess who the innocent victims were - but do your sources mention that the attack was the END of an armed conflict between the mormons and the people who were living in the area - which included an attack on a militia unit 6 days before, and the sacking of a local store within the previous 2 weeks. it has been found, by the way, that Hawn survived the attack - was not Mormon, and ultimately died within a hundred miles of where I live. Basically, the local residents of Missouri didn't like the fact that a large, "strange" sect that was predominantly abolitionist was setting up shop where they lived, and so paranoia quickly spread. When a fire & brimstone sermon aimed at dissenters was taken as a call to action against people who wouldn't convert, the locals took up arms. Things came to a head when a guy from the state militia deserted his post in order to join one of the brigand groups that had been raiding settlements. When he got dropped during a skirmish, the governor was falsely informed that his death was the result of an attack on a militia unit. This led to the "Extermination Order", a pogrom demanding the death or removal of anyone who was LDS. Haun's Mill happened days later. I've met peeps from Missouri who didn't even know about it. No joke. interestingly, I've noticed established settlements tend to be a bit leery of large armed groups of people who come into town and start trying to take over. |
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Post by ironhold on May 27, 2017 5:05:50 GMT
Basically, the local residents of Missouri didn't like the fact that a large, "strange" sect that was predominantly abolitionist was setting up shop where they lived, and so paranoia quickly spread. When a fire & brimstone sermon aimed at dissenters was taken as a call to action against people who wouldn't convert, the locals took up arms. Things came to a head when a guy from the state militia deserted his post in order to join one of the brigand groups that had been raiding settlements. When he got dropped during a skirmish, the governor was falsely informed that his death was the result of an attack on a militia unit. This led to the "Extermination Order", a pogrom demanding the death or removal of anyone who was LDS. Haun's Mill happened days later. I've met peeps from Missouri who didn't even know about it. No joke. interestingly, I've noticed established settlements tend to be a bit leery of large armed groups of people who come into town and start trying to take over. Actually, the initial effort at settlement was pretty peaceful. The idea was "buy some plots of land, set up some farms, and invite the neighbors to join in". When the brigands started hammering the place in 1838, the first response was to appeal to the state government for help, the later the federal government. The defensive militias didn't form until after both refused aid. Anywho, to bring this back around to the myths: www.deseretnews.com/article/865629712/Whistlers-and-whittlers--boys-of-Nauvoo-organized-to-protect-the-Prophet-Joseph.htmlBack during the Nauvoo period, a key part of the city's self-defense ability came in the form of the Whistling & Whittling Brigade, a group of teen volunteers whose mission was to keep an eye out for strangers. While on "shift", the young men would whistle, whittle, or perform other mundane, idle past-times one would expect of a young man with time on his hands. If a stranger was spotted, they'd slowly pursue from a careful distance. The logic was that people who had no ill will would eventually try to strike up a conversation with someone (often the young man who was tailing them), while those who did have ill will would get paranoid enough to leave town as soon as possible. It was hailed as a non-violent way of letting potential trouble-makers know that they weren't wanted and that there would be witnesses if they did try anything. |
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Post by Lokifan on May 27, 2017 6:28:44 GMT
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