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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 1, 2017 23:45:46 GMT
This is not an official request as such, but rather a reaction to something one of our new Mythbusters tweeted about 'smelly, messy and gross' being 'fun to test'
So lets see if we can find something that fits that criteria and test the Myth that Mythbusters love to do such myths.
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Post by the light works on Jul 2, 2017 4:20:51 GMT
it comes awfully close to product testing - but how about the myth that stainless steel deodorizes hands. that would pretty much require them to handle smelly things and sniff their hands.
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Post by mrfatso on Jul 2, 2017 7:06:49 GMT
How about the myth that people become acclimatised to their own smells, but other people are notice it more.
Let both of the hosts work out in gym clothes and allow the funk,to,develop, give them their own clothes to sniff and rate, and then give them the other persons and see if they think,it is much worse. You could even get a group of control subjects to sniff and rate them.
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Post by ironhold on Jul 2, 2017 19:03:54 GMT
Or there's this one:
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 3, 2017 1:48:46 GMT
What about chewing gum myths in general? Unusual uses for gum in film and TV etc; Say using it to plug a hole in a car radiator.
If we could come up with enough of them that might make a viable segment.
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Post by the light works on Jul 3, 2017 3:25:15 GMT
What about chewing gum myths in general? Unusual uses for gum in film and TV etc; Say using it to plug a hole in a car radiator. If we could come up with enough of them that might make a viable segment. that may bear its own thread.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 3, 2017 8:50:33 GMT
"Egg in a radiator"
Smelly, nasty, messy, but does it work?. How many more of those are there?.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 3, 2017 9:08:09 GMT
Mud Bath. And other assorted water myths.
Just what parts of bathing in Mud actually work more than taking a bath in warm CLEAN water?...
In fact, add another one...
Second hand bath water. We all did this as a kid in a larger family, or maybe "Back then" when it took time to heat enough water for more than one bath in a row. But the second kid gets "used" bath water... Just how clean does water have to be to be beneficial?.
Use of bath water as irrigation... This is not product testing, but product "Type" testing. Does "environmentally friendly" soap and detergent really work?. As in, if you save the waste water from a "Green" household, can you use it to water the plants?.
I suggest a small patch of turf and some second had water from "Average" dish washer, "Enviro friendly" water and "Ultra green" recycling water, see which kills the grass or which makes the grass thrive. Do same with Bath water, shower water, and show what chemicals are dangerous to environment and what to look for in good detergents. Can you use wash9ng machine (clothes) water for irrigation, and if so, what products work?. what products kill?.
In this household, my irrigation of the garden is fed from a pump on the water water from my Pond... Its high in nitrates, nitrites, and "Fish poo", so it makes my lawn green.
It is required I replace a quarter in volume of the pond water every week for safety of the fish, I have a hefty filtration plant circulating the whole pond in volume every 12 hrs, but it still needs "fresh" water, so the old stuff is recycled into irrigation of thirsty trees.. fresh water, I have going through a "drip feed" lime filter to reduce the amount of water treatment plant additives to tap water.
Tap water... Some of us are forced to live with fluoridated water, "Because its good for teef"... Is it?. SERIOUSLY?... in that how much water do I use every day and how much of it gets drunk, and what effect does it have on teeth?.. do the need to treat EVERY drop of water used by anyone with a tap just to help dentistry?.
Add in other "safe" water treatments... "How safe"?..
Is Spring water better than tap water.
Whats the difference between Hard water and Soft when it comes to general health?.
Home water filters, such as the activated charcoal one I am using, how much do they work?. I knows they work on our water, because is I use tap water in the kettle, my brews "taste funny"... but why?.
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Post by the light works on Jul 3, 2017 13:47:42 GMT
"bring your own water"
is it true that the real reason you don't drink the water on vacation is not that they have germs and you don't; but that you are immune to your own germs but not to theirs?
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Post by the light works on Jul 3, 2017 13:48:12 GMT
"Egg in a radiator" Smelly, nasty, messy, but does it work?. How many more of those are there?. they did egg in the radiator on the old show.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 4, 2017 5:11:58 GMT
"Egg in a radiator" Smelly, nasty, messy, but does it work?. How many more of those are there?. they did egg in the radiator on the old show. Yeah, I know, I was intending you to get the part.. I know of a few "Bodge it" fixes, but how safe?. The old fuse box could be "Fixed" roadside with a bit of aluminium foil... NOT SAFE DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME type warnings of course, but, how safe is it NOT to do that?. Can you run a car on a bottle or two of coke-a-cola [insert generic fizzy in there] and for how long?.
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Post by the light works on Jul 4, 2017 10:36:33 GMT
they did egg in the radiator on the old show. Yeah, I know, I was intending you to get the part.. I know of a few "Bodge it" fixes, but how safe?. The old fuse box could be "Fixed" roadside with a bit of aluminium foil... NOT SAFE DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME type warnings of course, but, how safe is it NOT to do that?. Can you run a car on a bottle or two of coke-a-cola [insert generic fizzy in there] and for how long?. well I guess you could do the PTD "can you run a car on vomit" that came out after the movie Gamer. (the hero chugged a quart of ethanol, and then vomited it into the fuel tank of a car, and added urine to get enough volume for the fuel pump to pick it up.)
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 11, 2017 21:37:34 GMT
Having looked into it, I think 'Mud Baths' might actually be a viable myth.
First off there has been some medical studies done on the effect of mud baths on joint pain, specifically in the hands, which seem to show it does help. However everything else claimed, such as being more relaxing and helping to flush toxins out of the body either hasn't been tested or seems rather questionable. Aspects of the claims do seem to make sense, such as mud holding heat better and longer than water, which might explain helping with joint pains.
Testing joint pain or helping with skin conditions isn't something MB could realistically test. But the degree of relaxation would be easy enough, as would 'toxins' getting flushed from the body; Blood sample before, blood sample afterwards. Test both and see if there is any significant biochemical change not accounted for by normal passage of time. Two controls with resting in a chair and sitting in water. Same procedure can be done for 'relaxation' by simply giving them blood pressure and heart rate monitors during the tests.
Testing to see if it improves complexions (or at least facial mud baths) could also be done fairly easily.
There are also myths about mud from some areas being more effective for certain conditions than others. So not only could they be tested, but they could make their own 'mud' in shop to see if there is any real difference.
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Post by blazerrose on Jul 12, 2017 6:12:28 GMT
They are near the famous Calistoga mud baths, so a supply would be readily available. Or they can come up to Portland and ask for volunteers to see if mud baths help with joint pain.
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Post by mrfatso on Jul 12, 2017 10:34:45 GMT
Wouldn't testing specific mud be product testing? Testing to see if mud in general, or even types of mud like river mud or seashore mud might be alright, but testing mud from one resort as opposed to others?
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 12, 2017 10:53:42 GMT
Not really product testing, since the mud's listed are from general areas and not as far as I know trademarked. Not that it would be difficult to avoid using specific names, as they could just say what a specific type of mud is meant to help with and the general type of mud it is rather than identify the area it comes from.
I'm actually guessing that there might well be a trade in mud from some areas for spars outside those areas. So obtaining samples might not be too hard, certainly not for North American types.
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Post by the light works on Jul 12, 2017 14:22:42 GMT
Not really product testing, since the mud's listed are from general areas and not as far as I know trademarked. Not that it would be difficult to avoid using specific names, as they could just say what a specific type of mud is meant to help with and the general type of mud it is rather than identify the area it comes from. I'm actually guessing that there might well be a trade in mud from some areas for spars outside those areas. So obtaining samples might not be too hard, certainly not for North American types. I'm not sure if the "natural feature" type mudbaths and mineral springs would be willing to participate too heavily in an analysis of their "product" I suspect it depends on their faith in their uniqueness and efficacy. I would suppose if it was phrased that the team is investigating whether the chemical properties of the mud are more significant than the environmental properties of the spa, they could get buy-in. I am having a mental image of the team making their own spa mud as their big build. I know sulfur tends to be a significant ingredient.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 12, 2017 15:24:51 GMT
I agree, I can see them making their own special 'Mythbusters Mud'.
They might need to make their own, if they can't get mud from a specific area. Even if they can get different types of mud in large enough quantities it might be interesting for them to make their own 'brand' to compare with the 'special' types.
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Post by the light works on Jul 12, 2017 15:37:51 GMT
I agree, I can see them making their own special 'Mythbusters Mud'. They might need to make their own, if they can't get mud from a specific area. Even if they can get different types of mud in large enough quantities it might be interesting for them to make their own 'brand' to compare with the 'special' types. and if they made their own, they could see if the chemistry of it changed - which would then be compared to records of the subject's chemistry to see if there actually was any chemical action between the mud and the test subject.
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Post by the light works on Jul 12, 2017 15:38:27 GMT
also; they could test how sanitary the mud remained.
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