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Post by wvengineer on Oct 10, 2017 15:34:42 GMT
I'm a fan of the original, so I will admit I went into this not expcting much based on what most sequals are like these days.
I can say I was pleasantly surprised.
The story is not a reboot. It is a sequel, taking place 30 years after the first part. Unlike SW:TFA, Blade Runner is a true continuation of the story, not a rehash of the original. It builds upon the framework of the original while going in a new, and I would say interesting direction.
Visually, it look great. It feels like the world of the original Blade Runner.
Character age is not really an issue other than the fact of the passage of time. It's nice to have a Harrison Ford movie where he doesn't spend most of it complaining about getting old.
On the flip side, I have two gripes.
1. It's LONG. At nearly 2.75 hrs, it takes a while and in a lot of places it feel a bit longer. They spend a lot of time on the eye candy, which commonly slows down the story. In some places, it is a bit of a distraction.
2. It a complex world we are dumped in the middle of it. There are some elements that feel very interesting, but they are never developed. For the length, some exposition would not have been a problem and would have been nice to fill in the backstory.
This other issue is that the story is told as a setup to a part 3. so there are a lot of open threads that they leave you hanging on for the future, but at least it stands well enough on its own.
Overall, I enjoyed it. It took me several viewings of the original to fully understand the film. I get the feeling that this may take a repeat viewing or two as well to to fully
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Post by the light works on Oct 10, 2017 20:19:19 GMT
I'm a fan of the original, so I will admit I went into this not expcting much based on what most sequals are like these days. I can say I was pleasantly surprised. The story is not a reboot. It is a sequel, taking place 30 years after the first part. Unlike SW:TFA, Blade Runner is a true continuation of the story, not a rehash of the original. It builds upon the framework of the original while going in a new, and I would say interesting direction. Visually, it look great. It feels like the world of the original Blade Runner. Character age is not really an issue other than the fact of the passage of time. It's nice to have a Harrison Ford movie where he doesn't spend most of it complaining about getting old. On the flip side, I have two gripes. 1. It's LONG. At nearly 2.75 hrs, it takes a while and in a lot of places it feel a bit longer. They spend a lot of time on the eye candy, which commonly slows down the story. In some places, it is a bit of a distraction. 2. It a complex world we are dumped in the middle of it. There are some elements that feel very interesting, but they are never developed. For the length, some exposition would not have been a problem and would have been nice to fill in the backstory. This other issue is that the story is told as a setup to a part 3. so there are a lot of open threads that they leave you hanging on for the future, but at least it stands well enough on its own. Overall, I enjoyed it. It took me several viewings of the original to fully understand the film. I get the feeling that this may take a repeat viewing or two as well to to fully Mrs TLW wants to rewatch the original before seeing this. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 10, 2017 20:33:06 GMT
I'm a fan of the original, so I will admit I went into this not expcting much based on what most sequals are like these days. I can say I was pleasantly surprised. The story is not a reboot. It is a sequel, taking place 30 years after the first part. Unlike SW:TFA, Blade Runner is a true continuation of the story, not a rehash of the original. It builds upon the framework of the original while going in a new, and I would say interesting direction. Visually, it look great. It feels like the world of the original Blade Runner. Character age is not really an issue other than the fact of the passage of time. It's nice to have a Harrison Ford movie where he doesn't spend most of it complaining about getting old. On the flip side, I have two gripes. 1. It's LONG. At nearly 2.75 hrs, it takes a while and in a lot of places it feel a bit longer. They spend a lot of time on the eye candy, which commonly slows down the story. In some places, it is a bit of a distraction. 2. It a complex world we are dumped in the middle of it. There are some elements that feel very interesting, but they are never developed. For the length, some exposition would not have been a problem and would have been nice to fill in the backstory. This other issue is that the story is told as a setup to a part 3. so there are a lot of open threads that they leave you hanging on for the future, but at least it stands well enough on its own. Overall, I enjoyed it. It took me several viewings of the original to fully understand the film. I get the feeling that this may take a repeat viewing or two as well to to fully Mrs TLW wants to rewatch the original before seeing this. A good idea. I should do the same as I never really understood the original. |
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Post by the light works on Oct 10, 2017 20:54:36 GMT
Mrs TLW wants to rewatch the original before seeing this. A good idea. I should do the same as I never really understood the original. and thanks to the warning of it being nearly three hours, I will wait to see it until I can see it where I can pause it for a potty break. |
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Post by wvengineer on Oct 11, 2017 14:00:50 GMT
Mrs TLW wants to rewatch the original before seeing this. A good idea. I should do the same as I never really understood the original. Part of the problem here is that what version do you watch? Last I checked, there are 5 different ones. If you are new it it, I would suggest the original theatrical version. The voice over, while distracting, helps to understand what is going on and give more of a film noir feel to it. If you are more comfortable with the story, then watch the Final Cut version. That one flows better, fixes some continuity mistakes, and goes in to more detail on some aspects that show up in the sequel. |
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Post by ironhold on Oct 11, 2017 15:54:40 GMT
Just keep in mind that the different cuts go back and forth on one critical but subtle detail.
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Post by the light works on Oct 11, 2017 15:58:59 GMT
Just keep in mind that the different cuts go back and forth on one critical but subtle detail. considering Decker is still alive in the sequel, I think we can assume which way the detail fell. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 11, 2017 16:10:05 GMT
Maybe I'll just wait until Justice League comes out and see that instead. Less prep work required.
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Post by the light works on Oct 11, 2017 16:25:57 GMT
Maybe I'll just wait until Justice League comes out and see that instead. Less prep work required. I am waiting for the new Star Wars release. looked up the new trailer on youtube. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 11, 2017 16:41:37 GMT
Maybe I'll just wait until Justice League comes out and see that instead. Less prep work required. I am waiting for the new Star Wars release. looked up the new trailer on youtube. Never been a big fan of the Star Wars franchise, but I'll watch it when it can show up in the theater near me. (as in my family room) |
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Post by the light works on Oct 11, 2017 16:48:32 GMT
I am waiting for the new Star Wars release. looked up the new trailer on youtube. Never been a big fan of the Star Wars franchise, but I'll watch it when it can show up in the theater near me. (as in my family room) I am right at the correct life path for it to have been a defining franchise in my entertainment world. I can no more not like it than I can not like fighting fire. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 11, 2017 16:53:11 GMT
Never been a big fan of the Star Wars franchise, but I'll watch it when it can show up in the theater near me. (as in my family room) I am right at the correct life path for it to have been a defining franchise in my entertainment world. I can no more not like it than I can not like fighting fire. Wonder if there's a correlation. You like Star Wars and like fighting fires and I'm not that crazy about either. In fact, I tend to go out of my way to avoid having to fight a fire. |
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Post by the light works on Oct 11, 2017 17:07:01 GMT
I am right at the correct life path for it to have been a defining franchise in my entertainment world. I can no more not like it than I can not like fighting fire. Wonder if there's a correlation. You like Star Wars and like fighting fires and I'm not that crazy about either. In fact, I tend to go out of my way to avoid having to fight a fire. nature vs nurture. we did have a group of us go to the local opening of episode III. but I think any connection between fighting fire and liking Star Wars is coincidental at best. |
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 12, 2017 7:47:43 GMT
I am a fan of anything that gets the whole family together around my TV.
I may not "Like" the film they choose to watch this time, but, good family entertainment that pulls the whole family together?.
Priceless.
You may note, no Cinema?.
I dont do cinema any more.
Partly because the difficulty I have in sitting still all that time in cramped seats being of the "Giant" size taller than average "You pay more now?." category that doesnt fit small seats, partly because all the fuss and fleecing of you at the door for extra's, partly because of the ijurts who inhabit that place who find it perfectly acceptable to talk or take phone calls,
But Mostly....
We enjoy comedy.
A good laugh that the whole family can enjoy, even if it is slapstick, even if it is Deadpool's one liners, but a good laugh.
One that sets my Kid One into fits of almost donkey like braying because he cant catch his breath?.
If its the one that my Missus leaves the room because its that dirty?.
[she does come back]
Even if its the one that you have to pause rewind and play again because you didnt just do that did you?.
But thats the point, the pause and rewind....
You cant do that at a cinema.
Nor can you pop into the kitchen and grab a hot brew whilst the family get over that part, or put it on hold whilst kid three takes a call "Cant talk right now will call you back", or take a smoke break whilst all three get a quick can-of-coke-bag-of-crisps.
But mainly because we can, can do a lot of things, that you dont get in cinemas.
Comfortably.
I will wait for the DVD....
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 12, 2017 13:31:09 GMT
DVD? I haven't purchased a movie on DVD in years. That doesn't mean I haven't purchased movies. I just wonder where my movies are going to be when I want to play them in 20 years. I also wonder how I'm going to play my DVDs in 20 years. They will probably be sitting on the shelf collecting dust like my VHS movies that I can no longer find a machine to play them on.
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Post by the light works on Oct 12, 2017 14:33:08 GMT
DVD? I haven't purchased a movie on DVD in years. That doesn't mean I haven't purchased movies. I just wonder where my movies are going to be when I want to play them in 20 years. I also wonder how I'm going to play my DVDs in 20 years. They will probably be sitting on the shelf collecting dust like my VHS movies that I can no longer find a machine to play them on. I used to own a machine that played VHS tapes... |
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 12, 2017 15:13:06 GMT
DVD? I haven't purchased a movie on DVD in years. That doesn't mean I haven't purchased movies. I just wonder where my movies are going to be when I want to play them in 20 years. I also wonder how I'm going to play my DVDs in 20 years. They will probably be sitting on the shelf collecting dust like my VHS movies that I can no longer find a machine to play them on. I used to own a machine that played VHS tapes... I actually still own two, but I don't know if they work. The last time I tried one, a couple of years ago, it wouldn't rewind. The rubber belts and pulleys tend to degrade over time. I'm not even sure where the second one is or if it works anymore. I also have a U-Matic 3/4" video recorder that I did try about a month ago and surprisingly it did work. But the U-Matics were industrial machines and meant to last. Not something you can set on a shelf. |
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 13, 2017 10:39:40 GMT
I used to own a machine that played VHS tapes... I actually still own two, but I don't know if they work. The last time I tried one, a couple of years ago, it wouldn't rewind. The rubber belts and pulleys tend to degrade over time. I'm not even sure where the second one is or if it works anymore. I also have a U-Matic 3/4" video recorder that I did try about a month ago and surprisingly it did work. But the U-Matics were industrial machines and meant to last. Not something you can set on a shelf. I have a "Direct drive" VHS machine, still in use, as a monitor for the camera's on the property to pass them through to a scart output for the teeVee... My CD's and DVD's will work as long as I have a drive on a computer, or XBox, or whatever I replace it with. I will not be admitting to thinking about "Ripping" them to a Hard drive.... As for all the films I had on VHS?. I have gradually replaced most of them with DVD versions, or the older Kids ones have been junked, because no one wants them these days. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 13, 2017 11:30:19 GMT
20 years ago every computer had a floppy drive. How many do you see today?
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 14, 2017 7:36:28 GMT
20 years ago every computer had a floppy drive. How many do you see today? You have to ask?. "The old thing under the desk"... the old old one I didnt scrap yet, still has the 3-and-a-bit-five-and-a-bit-mnore compliment of both. IDE, not sata, but still working.... Reason?. "Just in case" In 50 yrs time there will be people like me who still have "old" technology "somewhere" |
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