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Post by the light works on Feb 23, 2018 17:01:38 GMT
Duck Tape. It's a name brand of duct tape.  that wasn't the objection. the objection was to using it as binding on a wiring harness. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 23, 2018 18:27:47 GMT
Duck Tape. It's a name brand of duct tape. that wasn't the objection. the objection was to using it as binding on a wiring harness. Right. A Rose by any other name. If you use it on wires, you have to call it Gaffer's Tape. Same stuff, just usually black.  And if you use it on cars, it's called 100 MPH Tape. If it has a camo pattern, it's called Survival Tape |
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2018 1:51:14 GMT
that wasn't the objection. the objection was to using it as binding on a wiring harness. Right. A Rose by any other name. If you use it on wires, you have to call it Gaffer's Tape. Same stuff, just usually black. actually, official gaffer's tape has a different adhesive on it that doesn't get all gunky. but what he should have used is this.  |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 24, 2018 9:02:06 GMT
Duck Tape. It's a name brand of duct tape. Its the original name of the product, from the name of the fabric involved, Duck cloth, highly strong and water'Resistant' , it has many uses, its been around a LONG time. www.bigduckcanvas.com/categories/resources/what-is-duck-cloth.htmlquote from there that gives the reason for the name... Someone decided to try making a sticky tape out of that stuff as a repair cloth for small tears in sails... so a waterproofing to one side and a tar-like sticky layer the other side, and a legend is born. ..What?... I have a mind of useless information, I collect useless facts like this up there, sometimes they get to be not-so-useless.... |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 24, 2018 9:06:53 GMT
that wasn't the objection. the objection was to using it as binding on a wiring harness. Its water resistant, it formed a padding around the tape that would resist chaffing, and it held all the wires together so they wouldnt get trapped anywhere we didnt want them to get trapped. 1990's, you have a better idea we could have used?. And again, it was all wrapped up in shrink-wrap rubber, and zip-tied into place. |
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2018 12:19:08 GMT
that wasn't the objection. the objection was to using it as binding on a wiring harness. Its water resistant, it formed a padding around the tape that would resist chaffing, and it held all the wires together so they wouldnt get trapped anywhere we didnt want them to get trapped. 1990's, you have a better idea we could have used?. And again, it was all wrapped up in shrink-wrap rubber, and zip-tied into place. fiberglass, friction cloth, cambric, rubber, scotch 35, scotch 33... |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 25, 2018 7:48:39 GMT
Its water resistant, it formed a padding around the tape that would resist chaffing, and it held all the wires together so they wouldnt get trapped anywhere we didnt want them to get trapped. 1990's, you have a better idea we could have used?. And again, it was all wrapped up in shrink-wrap rubber, and zip-tied into place. fiberglass, friction cloth, cambric, rubber, scotch 35, scotch 33... You use what you have to hand, and in that case, we had Duck-tape, and as it worked?.. Btw, Glassing in the wires, thats not that easy, I know, and it would have made a mess of the top tube anyway, thats a long route and needs painting up again afterwards. |
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Post by the light works on Feb 25, 2018 16:26:16 GMT
fiberglass, friction cloth, cambric, rubber, scotch 35, scotch 33... You use what you have to hand, and in that case, we had Duck-tape, and as it worked?.. Btw, Glassing in the wires, thats not that easy, I know, and it would have made a mess of the top tube anyway, thats a long route and needs painting up again afterwards. that's glass tape, not making a fiberglass shroud. it's tougher, but more flexible than cambric tape. typically, if you need to armor an unsulated connector, you do a wrap with rubber tape, then an overwrap of cambric or fiberglass, then cover the whole ting with a layer of scotch 35. (which is two bigger than scotch 33) in your case of the wires being insulated, just the overwrap of fiberglass and covered with shrink tube would have armored it properly, and then if you ever needed to open it, you could carefully cut the shrink tube, and peel the fiberglass. instead of the heat from shrinking the tube turning the duct tape into a gooey mess. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 26, 2018 7:45:37 GMT
You use what you have to hand, and in that case, we had Duck-tape, and as it worked?.. Btw, Glassing in the wires, thats not that easy, I know, and it would have made a mess of the top tube anyway, thats a long route and needs painting up again afterwards. that's glass tape, not making a fiberglass shroud. it's tougher, but more flexible than cambric tape. typically, if you need to armor an unsulated connector, you do a wrap with rubber tape, then an overwrap of cambric or fiberglass, then cover the whole ting with a layer of scotch 35. (which is two bigger than scotch 33) in your case of the wires being insulated, just the overwrap of fiberglass and covered with shrink tube would have armored it properly, and then if you ever needed to open it, you could carefully cut the shrink tube, and peel the fiberglass. instead of the heat from shrinking the tube turning the duct tape into a gooey mess. I suppose with the benefit of hindsight... however, the shrink-tube we used was of a type that you could have shrunk up with a hairdryer, in truth, if I remember right, it was a hot air wallpaper stripper gun that he used to shrink it up, hardly any heat at all, cool setting, and he just waived it in the general direction of south and it was shrunk...?.. But then again, this is someones hobby shed work, not a resource rich garage, we sent the frame off for powder coating eventually being it was worth going that way now there was no harness sticking out of it, and did the rebuild in about three days, so a weeks work from start to finish, and I knew the powder coating guys, so they squeezed us in on a big job with some spare gloss black powder. There being about a dozen of us in all, building up sections and bolting the big bits together in a sort of shift work and spare tea maker or two supplying hot brews. It was preparation for a rally we all wanted to get on, so in spare time, some of us were tinkering with our own toys. Mine being the Duke 907ie at that time, the bike in question was a "Lemons", Moto-Guzi Le Mans, we were getting to a V Twin rally, one of the original 1970's era machines, this time needing a complete strip down, as it needed a complete engine re-build. I think... We did a few frame off rebuilds at that time, I think this was the one with the stupid internal wiring?. I never owned a Guzzi myself, but did ride it a few times, it was a beast for a 1970's machine. |
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