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Post by ironhold on Feb 7, 2019 16:02:12 GMT
Thread for discussing whether or not things other than a traditional sleeping arrangement could work... 1. Last night I had an odd dream. As part of it, there was a situation where someone ran out of room for all of the people that were staying over. Their solution as an impromptu bed for someone? They took some rolled paper products (either toilet paper / bog roll or paper towels) that were still in the shrink-wrapped bundle packs (here in the US, you can get 12-packs of paper towels or 48-packs of bog roll), arranged several packs into the rough size and shape of a bed with the rolls standing upright, and called it a day. Because the rolls are standing upright, they'd have the greater ability to handle weight since that's how the product is designed to be stacked, but anyone trying to sleep on that would have the cardboard tubes going into them. 2. That dream reminded me of a bit from a rather obscure movie known as "The R.M." -> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_R.M. A young man is returning from two years of religious missionary work, but due to a colossal mistake his parents miscalculated his return date and so weren't ready for him to come back. As part of it, they had a foreign exchange student in his room. His new "temporary" lodging was in the family's large food pantry, with a random assortment of food products stacked together and some blankets thrown over them. Yes, the film does have a joke where he gets hungry in the middle of the night, reaches into the mix he's sleeping on, and pulls out a peanut butter packet of the kind you'd get in US military rations...
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Post by WhutScreenName on Feb 7, 2019 17:21:22 GMT
1) I think this would hold up just fine. There are a couple of things wrong with the idea though. First, unless it's double stacked, TP packages don't come standing upright, you'd have to open them to stick them upright instead of on their side. Second, with the pressure points of the cardboard rolls, it's probably be much more comfortable to simply sleep on the floor.
2) An issue I see with this is food melting. It could work, but talk about lumps!
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Post by wvengineer on Feb 7, 2019 20:16:19 GMT
1. Paper cylinders can actually be pretty strong when upright. Back in Middle school, I had an assignment to make a 3" high pillar out of a single sheet of 8.5x11 copy paper. Mine was able to take over 3000 lbs before it buckled. Other students got their to support nearly 5000 lbs. Sure the TP could support the weight, but I wonder about it being too firm to be comfortable. Like sleeping on a flat rock or sheet of wood. 2. Depends on what the packaging is. If it is boxes and packets of food that would be one thing, but if it is #10 cans, that could be really uncomfortable to be directly on top of. You could use the food packagin as a base for a bed and throw a pad on top for a potentially really sturdy bed.
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Post by mrfatso on Feb 7, 2019 21:56:33 GMT
Thread for discussing whether or not things other than a traditional sleeping arrangement could work... 1. Last night I had an odd dream. As part of it, there was a situation where someone ran out of room for all of the people that were staying over. Their solution as an impromptu bed for someone? They took some rolled paper products (either toilet paper / bog roll or paper towels) that were still in the shrink-wrapped bundle packs (here in the US, you can get 12-packs of paper towels or 48-packs of bog roll), arranged several packs into the rough size and shape of a bed with the rolls standing upright, and called it a day. Because the rolls are standing upright, they'd have the greater ability to handle weight since that's how the product is designed to be stacked, but anyone trying to sleep on that would have the cardboard tubes going into them. 2. That dream reminded me of a bit from a rather obscure movie known as "The R.M." -> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_R.M. A young man is returning from two years of religious missionary work, but due to a colossal mistake his parents miscalculated his return date and so weren't ready for him to come back. As part of it, they had a foreign exchange student in his room. His new "temporary" lodging was in the family's large food pantry, with a random assortment of food products stacked together and some blankets thrown over them. Yes, the film does have a joke where he gets hungry in the middle of the night, reaches into the mix he's sleeping on, and pulls out a peanut butter packet of the kind you'd get in US military rations... 48 packs of toilet roll yes we have those too. Btw. Bog roll is considered a slightly coarse way of phrasing it.
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Post by ironhold on Feb 7, 2019 22:27:27 GMT
And now I know.
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Post by the light works on Feb 8, 2019 1:39:08 GMT
I agree that the cores would make for an uncomfortable sleep.
as for names for it. there's always booty ribbon.
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Post by ironhold on Feb 8, 2019 6:33:07 GMT
The way I see it ->
Putting rolled paper products on their sides would mean you're sleeping on the soft paper product, but the cores would collapse before too long. If it's gradual it might not be as bad, but if it just collapses outright that's not going to be conducive to a good night's sleep.
Putting them upright would allow the cores to be at their strongest, but again, without some sort of intermediate padding you'd think the cores would hurt.
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Post by ironhold on Feb 8, 2019 6:39:59 GMT
1. Paper cylinders can actually be pretty strong when upright. Back in Middle school, I had an assignment to make a 3" high pillar out of a single sheet of 8.5x11 copy paper. Mine was able to take over 3000 lbs before it buckled. Other students got their to support nearly 5000 lbs. Sure the TP could support the weight, but I wonder about it being too firm to be comfortable. Like sleeping on a flat rock or sheet of wood. So flat or nearly flat rock and various sheets of wood as possible alternate sleeping spots as well? The flat rocks could be justified as campers trying to get off the ground, either with or without tents & sleeping bags. Muddy ground, perhaps? Sheets of wood... a lazy carpenter deciding to sleep on the job? An amateur do-it-yourself type who underestimated the time and effort needed to get a task done? So... padding on top of #10 cans?
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Post by wvengineer on Feb 8, 2019 13:24:35 GMT
It may not be the most comfortable setup ever, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.
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Post by the light works on Feb 8, 2019 15:27:55 GMT
I've slept on flat rocks, and I've slept on hardwood floors. anything incompressible is going to be an uncomfortable sleeping surface for most normal people, unless it is specifically contoured to prevent pressure points.
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Post by ironhold on Feb 9, 2019 6:44:53 GMT
A thought -
A thick roll of paper products would probably do well enough as a pillow, but what are some pantry items that could be so pressed into service without being destroyed in the process?
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Post by the light works on Feb 9, 2019 7:38:38 GMT
A thought - A thick roll of paper products would probably do well enough as a pillow, but what are some pantry items that could be so pressed into service without being destroyed in the process? dry goods like rice and beans.
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