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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 16:24:30 GMT
My mom's father died when she was a child, and her mother refused to talk about him; we now suspect that her mother was already dealing with severe but undiagnosed mental illness.
My mom has since found a number of medals and other items his father had from WWII.
We know that he was a US service member who served in the Army in Europe. His files were among the ones affected by a fire at the National Archives, and so we only have a fraction of his records. What we do know is that he was a crew member on board a tank at some point, and he was also in the military police. Documents we have found indicated that he may have also been infantry at one point, and we've found material suggesting he was a glider trooper during the time he was infantry.
He was with the US military in Africa, then was part of operations in the Middle East and Europe, where he ultimately served as part of the army of occupation. My maternal grandmother? War bride. (We're trying to translate documents we've since received regarding her half of the family; it's slow going as none of us ever learned German for a variety of reasons.)
My dad has been able to identify a few items that he had, as well as a number of his medals and decorations. He was apparently a first sergeant when he died, having chosen to make a career of the Army after the war. But many others we can't figure out, including several foreign items he somehow acquired at some point.
Is there a place we can go to help figure out what these items might be?
Thanks.
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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 16:33:28 GMT
For example, this is one of the items we're trying to identify. We're pretty sure it's some sort of unit crest, but it's not one my dad is familiar with. Apologies if the text is hard to read; I was having to use my off-hand to keep the cats at bay, as they were trying to get up to investigate.
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Post by the light works on Nov 25, 2020 16:38:44 GMT
View AttachmentFor example, this is one of the items we're trying to identify. We're pretty sure it's some sort of unit crest, but it's not one my dad is familiar with. Apologies if the text is hard to read; I was having to use my off-hand to keep the cats at bay, as they were trying to get up to investigate. found it. the key was that Allons is french. from there I just looked up unit insignia. www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/wwii-11th-cavalry-allons-patch-pin-138099972I'm guessing google image search will do as well.
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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 16:42:32 GMT
This is another one of the medals. It says something like "Suivez Moi" or "Suivez Mon". Also French?
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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 16:44:42 GMT
The text is "Prepare For Combat", and is in plain English. US emblem? British?
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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 16:45:21 GMT
American, perhaps?
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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 16:46:40 GMT
Pretty sure that these are German, but we're not sure what they mean. While it's entirely possible he purchased these from a local who was desperate for cash or supplies, it's also plausible he took them off of a prisoner. We just don't know.
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Post by the light works on Nov 25, 2020 16:47:47 GMT
I can maybe look into it, later. I'm guessing all of those were unit insignia, and they got traded and collected. right now I've got to deal with our now ex-employee not turning his keys in.
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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 16:48:49 GMT
Last one, a ribbon we can't place. Thanks again.
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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 16:53:26 GMT
I can maybe look into it, later. I'm guessing all of those were unit insignia, and they got traded and collected. right now I've got to deal with our now ex-employee not turning his keys in. Thanks.
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Post by rmc on Nov 25, 2020 20:16:56 GMT
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Post by ironhold on Nov 25, 2020 21:06:56 GMT
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Post by rmc on Nov 25, 2020 22:08:59 GMT
You're welcome!
Could you write out in English what the colors are on that ribbon?
It's symmetrical, so start with center and work to either the left or right.
As in "yellow, red, white, green"
Or whatever it looks like to you.
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Post by rmc on Nov 25, 2020 23:44:13 GMT
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Post by rmc on Nov 25, 2020 23:50:28 GMT
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Post by rmc on Nov 26, 2020 0:16:10 GMT
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Post by rmc on Nov 26, 2020 0:26:30 GMT
View AttachmentPretty sure that these are German, but we're not sure what they mean. While it's entirely possible he purchased these from a local who was desperate for cash or supplies, it's also plausible he took them off of a prisoner. We just don't know. The German Air Force had a badge a lot like the one on the left for pilots. Except the head of the eagle was swung low, as if carrying the weight of the NAZIS symbol was either heavy, or the bird has just lifted off with it. I don't know about the one on the right. But I think the one pictured on the left is possibly a knock off since the eagle's head is too upright. Looks like a pilot's badge other than that.
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Post by rmc on Nov 26, 2020 14:23:29 GMT
Cannot explain how or why this ribbon is here. Unless after the war, in cooperation with Airforce ROTC an award was given for participants of Honor Guard in some ceremony. It looks to be an Airforce ROTC Color/Honor Guard Membership Ribbon seen on the second row from the bottom on the right in this image of ROTC ribbons (U.S. Airforce) ... and I stress "looks". I cannot get a good look at either the one you have, or the one for ROTC. If the ribbon were awarded war time, maybe the Southeastern Training Center used that ribbon before the existence of the Airforce, maybe??? Since the Army Air Corps Southeastern Training Center was kind of/sort of Airforce... ish... maybe.
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Post by the light works on Nov 26, 2020 17:07:30 GMT
Cannot explain how or why this ribbon is here. Unless after the war, in cooperation with Airforce ROTC an award was given for participants of Honor Guard in some ceremony. It looks to be an Airforce ROTC Color/Honor Guard Membership Ribbon seen on the second row from the bottom on the right in this image of ROTC ribbons (U.S. Airforce) ... and I stress "looks". I cannot get a good look at either the one you have, or the one for ROTC. If the ribbon were awarded war time, maybe the Southeastern Training Center used that ribbon before the existence of the Airforce, maybe??? Since the Army Air Corps Southeastern Training Center was kind of/sort of Airforce... ish... maybe. it could have just randomly fallen into the accumulation from a totally separate source. I'm not sure if any branches ever duplicated color patterns. (by which I mean I'm not sufficiently curious to research it)
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Post by Cybermortis on Nov 26, 2020 18:04:29 GMT
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