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Post by rmc on Jan 18, 2022 16:20:06 GMT
Trying to design a smart speaker sensitive enough to track someone's sleep seams like taking the hard way. Most smart watches and fitness trackers today include sleep monitoring functions. I would think it would be easier to hack into one of those to your your monitoring info. At least this way you don't have to design and build new hardware. I wish I better understood how it is that they made a smart speaker pick out detail of someone's distant heartbeat. It seems AI has something to do with RTX Voice software being able to neatly separate sounds from one another. Perhaps AI is part of the Smart (device in question) capabilities?? If only I could satisfactorily reproduce the ability to catch someone sleeping in another room or apartment and wake them without their knowing it was me... not in a malice way, but in an agreed upon test. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 18, 2022 19:10:08 GMT
I think a part of the proof would involve a recording of a sleep monitor used by the victim along with the audio recording. if it could be demonstrated that the pattern of sounds was connected to the victim's sleep state then it would be harder to claim it was just coincidence.
and it might involve getting a building inspector to examine the building, because normal buildings aren't all that noisy.
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Post by rmc on Jan 18, 2022 20:39:16 GMT
I think a part of the proof would involve a recording of a sleep monitor used by the victim along with the audio recording. if it could be demonstrated that the pattern of sounds was connected to the victim's sleep state then it would be harder to claim it was just coincidence. and it might involve getting a building inspector to examine the building, because normal buildings aren't all that noisy. I think so. Trouble is all heartrate monitoring devices I could find thus far just don't show up on camera and would likely involve some sort of post production that could be debated with regard to validity. I took pretty good video of it. From two separate locations in my condo. This helps to identify the intensity because if it's picked up out in the livingroom while it is also heard inside a sleeping chamber and through flightline earmuffs (top of the line too. 31 db reduction) then I'd have thought there would be little argument. But, argument a plenty. It may be hard to get what's going on in the video. It's coverage of a whole night. So, there are long periods of quiet where I calm down then finally go back to starting sleep - just in time for the next Ka-Chunk! And, I used to go out, wandering around trying to find its source. Or, stay up to see if i could catch it while awake. No use. They "see" me a mile away somehow. The police said they wondered if the following wasn't just the result of a boisterous, noisy nighttime mouse. I just need the help of the Mythbusters build team: make something that can detect a person has fallen asleep, and detect it through walls and whatnot. Otherwise, if it can't be built then maybe it is just a myth that it can Coincidence and timing, you say? Is that how they catch me asleep each time AND ONLY when I'm asleep? Then there are two years worth of nightly coincidence to be had then. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 18, 2022 22:17:59 GMT
stwp 1 is confirming the theory. step 2 is proving the confirmation. the monitor is for step 1.
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Post by rmc on Jan 19, 2022 2:34:34 GMT
step 1 is confirming the theory. step 2 is proving the confirmation. the monitor is for step 1. That may be, but monitors that I have access to don't show up on video unless I dub them in with post production and any post production hinders it, (the video of such heart monitor), being believed as genuine. As it is, video is hard to use because anyone can say, "you have someone knocking around so you can sue someone else." Or something like that. Before, when I thought the wake ups were likely due to my sleep apnea failing to be remedied by the equipment I was using, I wore a heart monitor for a week. It was small, and had NO screen. The result had the doctor convinced I had odd occasional bouts of Supraventricular Tachycardia. And only at night, or at rest. If you can show me a picture of a heart monitor that has a screen around 30 cm across, and lit up such that the information shows up on my video camera, we might be getting somewhere. But, one found in hospital rooms are basically out of reach for me, as far as I can see. So it needs to be something available to me on Amazon or somewhere like that. One of these is out of my reach. Plain and simple. www.cardiacdirect.com/product/mindray-passport-12-patient-monitor/?gclid=CjwKCAiA55mPBhBOEiwANmzoQgvsRInjK8URiMkCau3Vg8_906XggCB82QSxvHqgdEz-klDy7PkNohoC6EkQAvD_BwE#fo_c=1361&fo_k=6f154edb003e356ad5565cbac62e83ee&fo_s=gplaus?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=Maybe there is something for the general public that would work, but I have not seen it. Have you? Besides, with regard to videoing this in general, more recently, who ever does this stuff to wake me has dialed it back such that, on video (audio) it's less impressive and yet still manages to wake me. It's like they really want it to be explainable as "building noises" and have fine tuned it so as to cause it to better seem so, and I've worked with building inspectors during the construction days with my father's commercial construction company. Main point, and one that these perpetrators are apparently wise to and using: buildings CAN & DO occasionally make noises. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2022 4:03:12 GMT
step 1 is confirming the theory. step 2 is proving the confirmation. the monitor is for step 1. That may be, but monitors that I have access to don't show up on video unless I dub them in with post production and any post production hinders it, (the video of such heart monitor), being believed as genuine. As it is, video is hard to use because anyone can say, "you have someone knocking around so you can sue someone else." Or something like that. Before, when I thought the wake ups were likely due to my sleep apnea failing to be remedied by the equipment I was using, I wore a heart monitor for a week. It was small, and had NO screen. The result had the doctor convinced I had odd occasional bouts of Supraventricular Tachycardia. And only at night, or at rest. If you can show me a picture of a heart monitor that has a screen around 30 cm across, and lit up such that the information shows up on my video camera, we might be getting somewhere. But, one found in hospital rooms are basically out of reach for me, as far as I can see. So it needs to be something available to me on Amazon or somewhere like that. One of these is out of my reach. Plain and simple. www.cardiacdirect.com/product/mindray-passport-12-patient-monitor/?gclid=CjwKCAiA55mPBhBOEiwANmzoQgvsRInjK8URiMkCau3Vg8_906XggCB82QSxvHqgdEz-klDy7PkNohoC6EkQAvD_BwE#fo_c=1361&fo_k=6f154edb003e356ad5565cbac62e83ee&fo_s=gplaus?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=Maybe there is something for the general public that would work, but I have not seen it. Have you? Besides, with regard to videoing this in general, more recently, who ever does this stuff to wake me has dialed it back such that, on video (audio) it's less impressive and yet still manages to wake me. It's like they really want it to be explainable as "building noises" and have fine tuned it so as to cause it to better seem so, and I've worked with building inspectors during the construction days with my father's commercial construction company. Main point, and one that these perpetrators are apparently wise to and using: buildings CAN & DO occasionally make noises. but is there a correlation between the heart rate spikes, the noises, and the heart rate changes that signify falling asleep? |
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Post by rmc on Jan 19, 2022 8:50:42 GMT
You cannot fake the heartbeat and breathing patterns you have upon falling asleep.
So, during real falling asleep you are going to have those sorts of patterns. Unless of course you force yourself to stay awake, then those patterns just won't appear.
If someone monitors your breathing and heartbeat the moment you truly fall asleep you are going to reveal to them those patterns. It can't be helped.
If they then send you something that alarms you enough to arouse you, those heartbeat patterns are going to be an increase of some sort.
So correlation number one: sleep patterns are some minimum value of heart rate & breath rate. Or, shown by signs of sleep if visually witnessed (which is dicey, but can be done... people really sleeping are way more relaxed than when faking. It's hard, but faking sleep can be picked up on visually).
Naturally, arousal patterns, coming out of true sleep, are significantly greater in heartrate and breathing.
And, along the way that I *think* you are implying, it would basically almost be a requirement, or at least REALLY neat to have a heartbeat and breathing rate indicator right there next to me, in plain view of the camera, along with a clock, such that when other camera angles reveal the fact that an impulse has taken place, at the same time, shown by clocks, we can see the "needle jump" as I struggle to maintain sleeping.
But, as I say, the monitor notion remains a problem for me... if you could help direct me to such a monitor that I can afford, I'd include it, believe me.
Are you asking this last question out of being unclear on something? Or, are you trying to guide me through more or less "leading questions" to a more appropriate line of reasoning?
Maybe we're at these two different points:
1) I'm at. "Let's figure out how such a thing can BE DONE..."
And, 2) You're at, "Let's first CLEARLY show that such a thing is actually BEING DONE..."
Which I can appreciate, but I doubt I'll be able to do that, and didn't even want to try anymore for having ran up against so many brick walls trying to do so.
That's why I've basically just skipped to, "wonder how such a thing could be done... if we just assume it's being done"
Was the video of me struggling with the noises unclear, or incomplete? I did wake after each "Wack!" but it was a minute or two later than the impact sound each time. So, in the interest of brevity, I just excluded the drowsy wakeups. Would those have helped illustrate what you are after? A kind of missing cause and effect?
But, a heart monitor, visible on screen probably would have immediately shown my heart skip a beat the very moment the impact was heard, that's true.
So, I do see your point, if I'm addressing the point you're trying to make. ... For others looking on, it's likely very difficult to know how bad it is for me the way I show it. But, at least I know how bad it is.
I just want to know how it's done, how to better defend against it, and if I could just basically ignore it at some point since it looks like the crazy {person of questionable parentage} doesn't know when to quit.
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Post by rmc on Jan 19, 2022 13:10:40 GMT
Trying to design a smart speaker sensitive enough to track someone's sleep seams like taking the hard way. Most smart watches and fitness trackers today include sleep monitoring functions. I would think it would be easier to hack into one of those to your your monitoring info. At least this way you don't have to design and build new hardware. Just to be clear, you saw that I had merely found a scientific paper discussing the fact that they got a smart speaker to basically monitor a heartrate at some distance, and that I wasn't designing a system to do it... at least not yet. I'm merely trying to hypothesize how someone could tell when someone is asleep in either an adjoining room or next floor down not apparently using simple timing. I say it's likely not simple timing technique because those would include errors and reveal itself once in a while during alert wakefulness. Here's a reference to the paper: www.newscientist.com/article/2266373-smart-speakers-could-hear-your-heart-beating-from-across-the-room/In case you didn't see it. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2022 15:09:27 GMT
apparently, there are smartphone apps billed as sleep monitors. I know little beyond that, but I was reading a back issue of Readers Digest with an article on things smartphones could do and it mentioned sleep monitor apps.
and what I am asking is, since this appears to be related to the harassment you are experiencing, whether you have confirmed your theory that the timing of the disruptions is based on your sleep state and not on something else.
I am reminded of a friday before memorial day weekend,while I was still working for brand X, I had a camping trip scheduled, and the owners of a house that was being remodeled decided they wanted to spend the holiday weekend at the house, so they called the office and demanded that somebody be sent out to hook up the new septic tank to power so they could use all the water they wanted to.
I spent 3 hours trying to figure out what was blocking the conduit so I couldn't get a fish tape through it in either direction. I'd get to within about 5 feet of the other end, and it would stop like it was hitting a solid wall. there shouldn't have been any bends at that point in the pipe, and if something was stuck in it, it shouldn't have been so easy to slide from one end to the other. I was so frustrated that I didn't even think to just run wires on the ground to make a temporary connection. finally about an hour and a half after quitting time, I just gave up on it and told them we would have to come back after the weekend with a digging crew and dig up the conduit and replace it, because I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get the wires through it. they called the office and told them I was incompetent, I had to set up camp in the dark, and it was an altogether bad experience.
when they dug up the conduit, they found someone had laid conduit from the controller almost to the tank, and from the tank almost to the controller, and neither connected to the other. if I had put a vacuum to one end of the conduit, I would have immediately figured out the two ends weren't connected. if I had put a fish tape in each end at once with a loop and hook rig, I would have immediately figured out the fish tapes weren't crossing paths. if I had unfastened the conduit from the control box I could have blown in it and immediately known it wasn't just a movable obstruction. but I had my mind set on the idea the conduit WAS complete between the boxes, and didn't do anything to test that.
so I'm suggesting: monitor so YOU can be sure the disruptions are timed to match your entry into sleep. if they aren't, you don't need to figure out how they are doing it.
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Post by rmc on Jan 19, 2022 16:20:02 GMT
This has evolved since 2019 around September then.
At first it was annoying walking which would continue after my waking so it was easy to determine what was happening.
And it wasn't just normal walking around as the odd little condo board suggested. It was, earlier in the day, soft barefoot or tennis shoe walking (on wooden floors) to, after midnight, putting on dress shoes or hard soled shoes and in my interpretation, deliberately walking in haste everywhere so as to be as miserable as possible.
After constructing a shelter to distance myself, it transformed into knocking... but, those happened while I was asleep. I awoke in what I ultimately thought were new sleep apnea panic attacks. High heartrate, sweating, panicking...
So, I set up cameras
In those videos, over time, it became very clear to me that someone was knocking only once, but very loudly, such that it would deeply alarm me.
I've had, now, over two years to record everyday and there is no question that somehow someone lies in wait (and taking a gobsmacking amount of trouble on THEIR part to do so) until I'm asleep when it's going to be very very hard for me to, in person, physically catch them running off or in the act of doing it.
No.
There is no question from my point of view WHAT is happening.
I'm just not in the clear on HOW it is happening.
Because, they don't screw up. Video shows it. It's like magic. Or, as the police sarcastically stated, like ghosts able to perform something akin to magic
It HAS to be technology. And stuff not just available to the CIA like my brother insists.
I just figure if enough smart people cull it over in their minds and use their skills at researching what is available, a plausible explanation can be crafted. And, an explanation better than me being wrong about what I PLAINLY KNOW is happening.
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2022 16:34:38 GMT
okay, let me give you another analogy to illustrate my point:
had a customer tell a story of how the power company knocked on his door and warned him they knew he was stealing electricity and they were going to catch him at it. then proceeded to go through months of changing meters, adding secondary meters and other means to try to figure out how he was stealing power. he said they were having so much fun he didn't tell them he had recently changed his electric furnace for a gas furnace.
the point is; are you sure they are monitoring your heart rate to determine when to knock? because if they aren't, you can waste a lot of time trying to figure out how they are doing it, and get no benefit. so I'm saying you should use the monitor so YOU know if the knock follows the changes in your heart rate. If it does, you can keep looking for ways they can do it, and if it doesn't, you can discard that theory and look for another.
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Post by rmc on Jan 19, 2022 17:57:25 GMT
In the last six months or so I've slowly trained myself, or have been able to train myself through wrought experience to separate the twilight effects of hypnagogia and reality such that when a knock occurs I catch it mid-dream and am able to raise a finger or hand.
Upon review of footage I can see and hear that I'm almost snoring or otherwise doing the deep, deep rhythmic breaths associated with true sleep when the knock occurs.
That's EVERY time it happens.
There IS NO question as to if it happens upon my truly sleeping.
The thing is, during hypnagogia, the senses can be overcharged. You can detect stuff that might otherwise go unnoticed. But... hallucination is also a big part of hypnagogia. Such that you might absolutely SWEAR a bird whistled, or a door slammed, or you stepped into some pit making your whole body jerk!
So, depending upon memory of a "WACK!" during hypnagogia ISN'T good enough.
But, if later, you witness video detailing when the "WACK!" happens and you can see AND HEAR that your breathing was the breathing of a sleeping person... PLUS YOU ALSO WITNESS THE RAISING OF YOUR HAND THAT YOU TOLD YOURSELF YOU MUST DO DURING HYPNAGOGIA, then you can be certain you WERE ASLEEP WHEN IT OCCURRED.
And, if all occurrences follow this same pattern you can guess or surmise that who ever is doing it somehow knows you were asleep -- just as they'd highly highly prefer.
So... now to your concern...
SINCE I am certain that I am in fact asleep at these times, I can then go on ahead and use some of the physiological facts found when going to sleep, like the report posted earlier about heartbeat heartrate breathing info.
One goes directly with the other.
I can, therefore, pretty well surmise that detecting sleeping heart and breath activity is a reasonable start... because I KNOW I WAS IN HYPNAGOGIA WHEN ATTACKED EACH TIME.
Since the common factor is HYPNAGOGIA, then it is reasonable to assume that "they" somehow detect or make use of it.
If they were using video, like I am, well, then that would be different. But, I'm in an enclosed box, inside my own condo. Today's microphone and AI technology, though, allows for a heightened audio monitoring intrusion.
What is more problematic for me is the knowledge that any person insisting that they are persecuted or attacked is usually suffering from mental delusions. That's a real concern of mine. It is perfect to prevent me from getting help. And, I'm not speaking mental health help.
I have but only one request. That we assume they somehow key in on my state of being to start this back-engineering process. I have exhausted my ability to capture it and prove it. It can't be done. It is as though they've seen fit that I cannot do it, not without the $5000 monitor you suggest.
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2022 20:12:13 GMT
again, the common factor in the power company story is that his power bill suddenly got lower.
you know you were asleep when attacked, but you haven't yet confirmed that there is any pattern whatsoever regarding to how long after any of the physiological changes associated with entering a sleep state the attacks happen.
but yes, if you assume they must be monitoring your heartbeat through your smart speaker, because you haven't used any tool that is meant for YOU to use to monitor your heartbeat to see if there is a correlation between your heartbeat and the attacks, then the simple solution is to make it so you can air gap your smart speaker at night, and the problem will be solved.
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Post by rmc on Jan 19, 2022 21:37:22 GMT
It could be that people who actually own a smart speaker risk having their heartbeat monitored by outside, nefarious individuals who are tuned in to that very same smart speaker, sitting there with its owner as the owner sleeps.
But. I also took that report to mean that a speaker (albeit more of a microphone in this case) could listen at a distance, possibly even to some location not within the location of the smart speaker owner.
That's a stretch, but with other microphones declaring they hear through thick walls, I figure, by extension, the smart speaker could get input from just such a microphone. Or, I don't know, maybe some other arrangement.
In short, I don't own a smart speaker, but wonder if some distant device like it accomplishes the same feat - even though it is not in my unit. Like those microphones that one uses to hear through walls.
And, I have noticed, and verified by video, that when dropping off, or when in that twilight state, I can remember a thud or knock (at least more recently I can)... then I awake, and further know that it was yet another attack.
So, unless they see me nodding off by way of video, or standing beside me, they'd just about have to be hearing me nod off, and by that I refer to the speaker able to listen to a heart and the report detailing how the heart behaves differently upon hypnagogia and to that report detailing how AI, and it's AI available to anyone today, improves listening to degrees not previously thought possible. Not necessarily a smart speaker specifically, but some listening device doing basically the same marvel of science and technology.
Otherwise what are they doing? Reading my mind in order to hit me THE SAME WAY each time? And I drop off to sleep at various times too, so timing me shutting the shelter's door isn't it. It has to be the pattern I leave, that they've apparently studied, when I fall asleep.
Otherwise, I'd need a better explanation.
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Post by the light works on Jan 20, 2022 1:56:06 GMT
I know the medic alert companies that advertise on TV (help I've fallen and I can't get up) can turn the gain on their machines high enough to hear someone from pretty much anywhere in their house, but even then, they sometimes can't get a response from the person.
but my point is: if the noise consistently happens a set time after your heart rate shifts, then you can be pretty sure it is based on your heart rate. but if it consistently happens a set time after a different benchmark, then you can be pretty sure it is the different benchmark. if it still doesn't have a discernable pattern, then you have to dig deeper. if it never happens within a certain time of you closing the hatch, even if you fall directly to sleep, then it could very well be based on the hatch, just with a long delay.
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Post by rmc on Jan 20, 2022 5:09:04 GMT
if it never happens within a certain time of you closing the hatch, even if you fall directly to sleep, then it could very well be based on the hatch, just with a long delay.
It happens at all sorts of times. Like shortly after closing the hatch to hours later if I remain awake and then finally fall asleep.
Again, I've tried to fool it by laying awake and then doing my best to imitate sleep... (breathing much the the way that I heard that i do on video). But, only after really falling asleep does it go off, "Wack!"
In fact, now that I've been fighting back by expanding the amount of time that I throw at trying to sleep.... (I now try to obtain sleep over a 12-hour period... usually only cobbling together maybe 4 hours "sleep" throughout that period, if I'm lucky) it or they have made their objection to my fighting back like that clear. When I used to "go to bed" at normal times, like 9 pm for instance, it was always quiet as a mouse the timeframe before that... and I mean eerily quiet.
But, when I first moved my sleep attempt up to 3 pm,... the first time I did that just as soon as I closed the the hatch, "Wack!!" Just once, but firm.
A noise that early in the afternoon REALLY caught me off guard, so I paused, basically uncertain that I really heard it. I forced myself to be patient and waited til morning to review the recording. And, sure enough, a very unnatural sounding, "Ka-Wack!!" Was heard for the first time at 3 p.m.
And so, I get tired. So tired that usually I fall asleep pretty much at 3 p.m. Then, "Wack!"... But, I've managed to remain awake until 5 pm. Or 6. Quiet.
And, I remember over the two years that, for a time anyway, there was a day of the week where the attacks seemed to only happen late, like midnight. That was back when starting my attempt at normal times, like 9 p.m.
It was Froday. As if they couldn't get anyone to take the Friday evening shift. Maybe they all wanted those evenings to party or something.
And, like I say, my choosing to intensify use of evening has been met with a firm response. Almost like objection.
But, mostly, I remember the first four months in 2019... the four months prior to September... it was always quiet.
And that same period (April to September) has happened again and now it's very busy.
So building noises it's not.
Some really strange and crazy person or persons has me running around, now, declaring that I'm being attacked. Much to their enjoyment, I'd guess... if they know.
Remember, I'm at this now for two years. Plus, I study what took place by watching videos about it. I've got good reason to suspect that patterns in my sleep are what they key in on. (And that it's done by listening. Because, choosing to toss out a "Wack!" once while I was awake, closing the hatch, tells me that they listen... and listen nearly constantly... something SURE to draw objection the moment that I describe it... it's perfect)
Anyway, trying to figure out if I'm correct, or suspecting I've lost my marbles isn't what this thread was set out to be. As I state in the opening paragraph, have an open mind and just accept that somehow hypnagogia is keyed in on.
Such that effort can be made toward generating posts here about ways that it could be accomplished. Because I've had two years debating the "if it's really happening" line of thought already. For me it's time to get beyond that.
At this point, I want to devote energy toward "how it's being done" and I mean how they key in on actual sleep and not how in other ways.
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Post by the light works on Jan 20, 2022 13:13:50 GMT
meanwhile, you could always set the recordings to play back when you aren't home.
"it's just building noises, they say it themselves."
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Post by rmc on Jan 20, 2022 14:05:33 GMT
meanwhile, you could always set the recordings to play back when you aren't home. "it's just building noises, they say it themselves." So that they'll "hear" their own noises while I'm away, if playing it back for them? Is that the idea? This proves to them I know that they imitate building noises? I guess I, once again, am not fully following you... I do only achieve about 4 hours sleep. So not the sharpest tack, you know? Anyway, unfortunately, the little Mac Mini I use has horrible speakers. So playing it back through that without headphones makes it hard, sometimes, to really get a good idea how it sounded originally. This holds true for playing back YouTubes of recordings on my cell phone too, as the Mac Mini is too old at this point to be on the internet and it is the cell phone that is my internet connection. By the way, I have gone ahead and wasted storage space on recording the condo during the day while I'm here, or even overnight, the one time I risked being away and the condo was empty. The result? No "building noises" and there was some evidence that a break in occurred down in my garage where I didn't have cameras. I just don't have enough cameras: my bicycle stems were both slit and tires deflated for my morning ride (back during summer, when I knuckled under and slept somewhere else... Hilton, $175... plus $10 ruined bicycle tubes Also, back at that point, late spring/early summer 2021 nobody lived in the unit above me. So, not even milling about sounds... just nothing. Hours and hours of nothing. Sorry I was away in a way). Not leaving again, if I can help it. Or, if I do, cameras are running this time, both locations. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 20, 2022 15:59:14 GMT
meanwhile, you could always set the recordings to play back when you aren't home. "it's just building noises, they say it themselves." So that they'll "hear" their own noises while I'm away, if playing it back for them? Is that the idea? This proves to them I know that they imitate building noises? I guess I, once again, am not fully following you... I do only achieve about 4 hours sleep. So not the sharpest tack, you know? Anyway, unfortunately, the little Mac Mini I use has horrible speakers. So playing it back through that without headphones makes it hard, sometimes, to really get a good idea how it sounded originally. This holds true for playing back YouTubes of recordings on my cell phone too, as the Mac Mini is too old at this point to be on the internet and it is the cell phone that is my internet connection. By the way, I have gone ahead and wasted storage space on recording the condo during the day while I'm here, or even overnight, the one time I risked being away and the condo was empty. The result? No "building noises" and there was some evidence that a break in occurred down in my garage where I didn't have cameras. I just don't have enough cameras: my bicycle stems were both slit and tires deflated for my morning ride (back during summer, when I knuckled under and slept somewhere else... Hilton, $175... plus $10 ruined bicycle tubes Also, back at that point, late spring/early summer 2021 nobody lived in the unit above me. So, not even milling about sounds... just nothing. Hours and hours of nothing. Sorry I was away in a way). Not leaving again, if I can help it. Or, if I do, cameras are running this time, both locations. basically to annoy them in retaliation. back in the day it was a common response to beople with a habit of partying on weeknights - play their party back to them at the crack of dawn. |
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Post by rmc on Jan 20, 2022 16:16:11 GMT
I see.
When it was merely highly-annoying hard soled shoe stomping upstairs in the middle of the night, before I got the idea of constructing a sound-resistant BedShed, I once hit the ceiling in response to really bad "walking". And, I did that immediately at the time of the problem.
To me, it was akin to someone using a broom handle to thump back at a noisemaker the moment they were making the offense noise.
A bit like in movies where someone upstairs is holding a party and the person below thumps their ceiling with a broomstick,"Keep it down, up there! Or, I'll get the Super!"
You know, addressing it in the moment rather than seething over it for days and then surprising them when they least expect it.
But, the result of what I did was met with spread stories about what a mean man I supposedly am, being "violent" in response to merely walking around, and she made plans to move.
But, as I may have stated, months later once she was gone, the "Building Noises" really ramped up, in the empty apartment. As if to say, "now do something"
Like thumping back would mean anything, or my making claim that a supposedly empty apartment was "after me".
They never did really sell their condo, interestingly. The real estate agent bought it himself. And when it continued to remain "empty" a la building noises. I complained and then the real estate agent's children took up "living there".
So, I'll never be able to fully detail everything such that my situation is completely believable.
I'd just hope that some of you will help me regardless. I'm running low on energy and would really like to know what sort of technology could achieve waking me by first knowing that I'm in a vulnerable state of deep sleep.
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