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Post by ironhold on Jun 12, 2022 12:57:27 GMT
Catch-all thread for random food myths.
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This one was on the radio just now.
There's a company called Easy Cater (or something to that effect) which promises to cater on-the-job meals for work groups. They have a series of radio ads premised on how unworkable certain food ideas are when it comes to being prepared and served on the job site.
One ad involves a construction site, where French fries have been loaded into a nail gun and are being shot at various workers so that they can eat without leaving their stations.
I know it wouldn't work as in the ad, but what *would* happen if you packed French fries into a nail gun?
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 12, 2022 13:01:09 GMT
Catch-all thread for random food myths. ** This one was on the radio just now. There's a company called Easy Cater (or something to that effect) which promises to cater on-the-job meals for work groups. They have a series of radio ads premised on how unworkable certain food ideas are when it comes to being prepared and served on the job site. One ad involves a construction site, where French fries have been loaded into a nail gun and are being shot at various workers so that they can eat without leaving their stations. I know it wouldn't work as in the ad, but what *would* happen if you packed French fries into a nail gun? I'd say the company nailed it.
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Post by the light works on Jun 12, 2022 13:47:59 GMT
well, the easy answer is that they are too big for the feed mechanism.
but supposing you could make a useful feed mechanism for them, get them to all be cooked straight, and collate them for the feed, the final failure would be that a nail gun uses a striker and the striker hits with enough force to even bend a nail if it doesn't feed properly. so there's about a 50/50 chance the striker would punch through the end of the french fry instead of launching it. nail guns also have a necessarily short barrel and aren't rifled; which results in the nail being completely unstabilized in flight.
so first challenge would be getting a pretty uniform french fry. second challenge would be a feed mechanism that worked for french fries. third challenge would be a launch system. I'm thinking you'd have to go more tornado cannon than nail gun. and finally, the fry will still tumble randomly in flight, so accuracy will be a problem.
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Post by the light works on Jun 12, 2022 14:00:59 GMT
food ninja: there are plenty of fiction stories featuring food being used as a weapon: a husband killed with a frozen leg of lamb, rock salt in shotguns, the bad guy knocked unconscious with a well thrown apple, rioters arming themselves with "soup for my family" hot liquids splashed in people's faces.
but what sorts of absurd food based weaponry would actually be somewhat effective? I know from an incident with a garbage disposal that aerosolized salsa can affect a person. can other things be used to turn the tables? not so much as a direct stab-them-in-the-heart-with-a-carrot sense as a hit them with something they never saw coming weapon.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 12, 2022 15:33:14 GMT
food ninja: there are plenty of fiction stories featuring food being used as a weapon: a husband killed with a frozen leg of lamb, rock salt in shotguns, the bad guy knocked unconscious with a well thrown apple, rioters arming themselves with "soup for my family" hot liquids splashed in people's faces. but what sorts of absurd food based weaponry would actually be somewhat effective? I know from an incident with a garbage disposal that aerosolized salsa can affect a person. can other things be used to turn the tables? not so much as a direct stab-them-in-the-heart-with-a-carrot sense as a hit them with something they never saw coming weapon. My wife usually cooks the poison before she serves it.
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Post by the light works on Jun 13, 2022 3:02:17 GMT
cakes and souffles collapsing in the oven: if I understand correctly, older cakes and souffles basically got whipped to cause them to rise properly, and so if it got bounced around too much in the oven, it would come out badly. modern baking soda and baking powder have significantly reduced the potential.
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Post by wvengineer on Jun 13, 2022 12:53:14 GMT
A real life example of food being used as a weapon is boiling water/coffee.
On Flight 93 of the 9/11 attacks, when the passengers were prepping to storm the cockpit, they prepared pots of near boiling water to use on the hijackers. It is unknown if they actually were used, but if they were, that easily cause very painful burns. While likely not directly fatal, it would easily disable a person.
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Post by wvengineer on Jun 13, 2022 12:58:29 GMT
to make a french fry nail gun, I would suggest using a roofing nailer since it is based around a much larger nail head. More surface area to spread out the force of the plunger. You will need to turn the air pressure way down. Also the fried would need to be VERY over cooked. A normal fry has a soft interior. That would simply collapse when hit by the plunger. You would basically need to fry cooked to a solid, crispy textre throughout to have anything resembling a structure that could survive being shot.
It would be move involved, but do you take out the plunger entirely and just use air pressure to shoot the fry? Basically a mini potato gun?
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Post by the light works on Jun 13, 2022 14:28:53 GMT
to make a french fry nail gun, I would suggest using a roofing nailer since it is based around a much larger nail head. More surface area to spread out the force of the plunger. You will need to turn the air pressure way down. Also the fried would need to be VERY over cooked. A normal fry has a soft interior. That would simply collapse when hit by the plunger. You would basically need to fry cooked to a solid, crispy textre throughout to have anything resembling a structure that could survive being shot. It would be move involved, but do you take out the plunger entirely and just use air pressure to shoot the fry? Basically a mini potato gun? that was my hurricane gun premise - use high velocity airflow to launch the fry.
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Post by ironhold on Jun 13, 2022 15:02:49 GMT
food ninja: there are plenty of fiction stories featuring food being used as a weapon: a husband killed with a frozen leg of lamb, rock salt in shotguns, the bad guy knocked unconscious with a well thrown apple, rioters arming themselves with "soup for my family" hot liquids splashed in people's faces. but what sorts of absurd food based weaponry would actually be somewhat effective? I know from an incident with a garbage disposal that aerosolized salsa can affect a person. can other things be used to turn the tables? not so much as a direct stab-them-in-the-heart-with-a-carrot sense as a hit them with something they never saw coming weapon. The aerosolized salsa is effectively pepper spray, which *is* hot peppers that have been turned into hot sauce and put into a spray mechanism. For the rock salt, the idea is that under normal circumstances, it'll break skin but not kill. Instead, that's raw rock salt in the wounds, which is supposed to hurt quite a bit. As far as hot liquids go, scalding damage *is* a major thing. Consider, for example, the infamous incident where a McNope's gave a woman a cup of coffee that was far hotter than food safety guides recommended. The woman insisted on holding the coffee between her knees instead of putting it in a cup holder, so when it spilled she was badly burned. In fiction, a recent example comes from Japanese franchise "My Hero Academia" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoto_Todoroki . It's part of Shoto's backstory that his mother suffered a psychotic break due to the verbal and emotional abuse her husband put her through, causing her to dump boiling hot water on Shoto because he looked too much like his father. Shoto's mother wound up confined to a mental health facility, and it caused Shoto and his older brother to estrange themselves from their father. With the "frozen leg of lamb" bit, the myth was based on it being so hard and heavy due to still being frozen that it could be wielded like a club.
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Post by the light works on Jun 13, 2022 15:20:20 GMT
food ninja: there are plenty of fiction stories featuring food being used as a weapon: a husband killed with a frozen leg of lamb, rock salt in shotguns, the bad guy knocked unconscious with a well thrown apple, rioters arming themselves with "soup for my family" hot liquids splashed in people's faces. but what sorts of absurd food based weaponry would actually be somewhat effective? I know from an incident with a garbage disposal that aerosolized salsa can affect a person. can other things be used to turn the tables? not so much as a direct stab-them-in-the-heart-with-a-carrot sense as a hit them with something they never saw coming weapon. The aerosolized salsa is effectively pepper spray, which *is* hot peppers that have been turned into hot sauce and put into a spray mechanism. For the rock salt, the idea is that under normal circumstances, it'll break skin but not kill. Instead, that's raw rock salt in the wounds, which is supposed to hurt quite a bit. As far as hot liquids go, scalding damage *is* a major thing. Consider, for example, the infamous incident where a McNope's gave a woman a cup of coffee that was far hotter than food safety guides recommended. The woman insisted on holding the coffee between her knees instead of putting it in a cup holder, so when it spilled she was badly burned. In fiction, a recent example comes from Japanese franchise "My Hero Academia" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoto_Todoroki . It's part of Shoto's backstory that his mother suffered a psychotic break due to the verbal and emotional abuse her husband put her through, causing her to dump boiling hot water on Shoto because he looked too much like his father. Shoto's mother wound up confined to a mental health facility, and it caused Shoto and his older brother to estrange themselves from their father. With the "frozen leg of lamb" bit, the myth was based on it being so hard and heavy due to still being frozen that it could be wielded like a club. the finale to the leg of lamb story was that after killing her (abusive, to make the woman sympathetic) husband, the woman then cooked the leg of lamb and served it to the police officers investigating the death, with the punch line being "the murder weapon is probably right under our noses." but I was looking more for aditional food turned weapons theories.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 13, 2022 19:39:31 GMT
I liked the Mythbuster's salami powered rocket. You can use food as both the propellant and the payload.
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Post by the light works on Jun 14, 2022 3:44:36 GMT
I liked the Mythbuster's salami powered rocket. You can use food as both the propellant and the payload. except as far as I can remember, the salami wasn't a very effective fuel.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 14, 2022 4:00:13 GMT
I liked the Mythbuster's salami powered rocket. You can use food as both the propellant and the payload. except as far as I can remember, the salami wasn't a very effective fuel. We’re talking salami here. The fact that it flew at all was pretty amazing.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jun 29, 2022 20:53:25 GMT
what about round, flat chips being used in a throwing star manner? Or shot out of something at speed, could they inflict enough damage to injure someone?
Maybe using beans to help you gas someone out?
They tested banana peels to make someone slip, what other foods would be good trip hazards?
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Post by the light works on Jun 29, 2022 23:56:24 GMT
what about round, flat chips being used in a throwing star manner? Or shot out of something at speed, could they inflict enough damage to injure someone? Maybe using beans to help you gas someone out? They tested banana peels to make someone slip, what other foods would be good trip hazards? I've flung tortilla rounds before. It'd be funny to see what kind of energy a person could get them to deliver. watermelon down the stairs might be effective. maybe those silver BB shot cake decorations as a slippery floor trap. using them as BB shot is probably too easy.
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