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Post by rmc on Nov 9, 2022 10:21:28 GMT
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Post by GTCGreg on Nov 9, 2022 13:04:14 GMT
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Post by the light works on Nov 9, 2022 17:11:47 GMT
when I search for my state's election results, the New York Times is higher in the results than the secretary of state's results page.
we've had ballots counted from 50% of the registered voters, but that data point doesn't mention how many ballots haven't been counted, yet.
so far, there is a narrow margin saying there should be no obligation for healthcare to be affordable, a modest majority saying we should not be able to make (criminal) prisoners work, twice as many voters saying legislators who make a habit of skipping work shouldn't be allowed to be reelected, and a tiny majority favoring requiring all people to have a license (with a background check) as a prerequisite for buying firearms. (and also prohibiting magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds)
in the governor's race, people are favoring increasing housing stocks and not allowing price gouging on rent over stripping protection from harassment as a solution to homeless camps; by the narrowest of margins.
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Post by GTCGreg on Nov 9, 2022 17:44:35 GMT
when I search for my state's election results, the New York Times is higher in the results than the secretary of state's results page. we've had ballots counted from 50% of the registered voters, but that data point doesn't mention how many ballots haven't been counted, yet. so far, there is a narrow margin saying there should be no obligation for healthcare to be affordable, a modest majority saying we should not be able to make (criminal) prisoners work, twice as many voters saying legislators who make a habit of skipping work shouldn't be allowed to be reelected, and a tiny majority favoring requiring all people to have a license (with a background check) as a prerequisite for buying firearms. (and also prohibiting magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds) in the governor's race, people are favoring increasing housing stocks and not allowing price gouging on rent over stripping protection from harassment as a solution to homeless camps; by the narrowest of margins. If every candidate only had just one issue on their head. Problem is you have to vote for a package deal and end up with some things you like and some you don't. It sometimes truly is trying to pick the lesser of the evils.
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Post by rmc on Nov 9, 2022 17:54:05 GMT
when I search for my state's election results, the New York Times is higher in the results than the secretary of state's results page. we've had ballots counted from 50% of the registered voters, but that data point doesn't mention how many ballots haven't been counted, yet. so far, there is a narrow margin saying there should be no obligation for healthcare to be affordable, a modest majority saying we should not be able to make (criminal) prisoners work, twice as many voters saying legislators who make a habit of skipping work shouldn't be allowed to be reelected, and a tiny majority favoring requiring all people to have a license (with a background check) as a prerequisite for buying firearms. (and also prohibiting magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds) in the governor's race, people are favoring increasing housing stocks and not allowing price gouging on rent over stripping protection from harassment as a solution to homeless camps; by the narrowest of margins. I'd guess mail in results will take up to a week?
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Post by the light works on Nov 9, 2022 17:56:28 GMT
when I search for my state's election results, the New York Times is higher in the results than the secretary of state's results page. we've had ballots counted from 50% of the registered voters, but that data point doesn't mention how many ballots haven't been counted, yet. so far, there is a narrow margin saying there should be no obligation for healthcare to be affordable, a modest majority saying we should not be able to make (criminal) prisoners work, twice as many voters saying legislators who make a habit of skipping work shouldn't be allowed to be reelected, and a tiny majority favoring requiring all people to have a license (with a background check) as a prerequisite for buying firearms. (and also prohibiting magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds) in the governor's race, people are favoring increasing housing stocks and not allowing price gouging on rent over stripping protection from harassment as a solution to homeless camps; by the narrowest of margins. If every candidate only had just one issue on their head. Problem is you have to vote for a package deal and end up with some things you like and some you don't. It sometimes truly is trying to pick the lesser of the evils. considering some candidates make every effort to hide what they actually intend to do, yes. if they have a history, you can look at their history to get an idea of what they actually plan to do. perhaps in the future we can pass a law requiring political candidates to only talk about themselves.
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Post by the light works on Nov 9, 2022 18:01:10 GMT
when I search for my state's election results, the New York Times is higher in the results than the secretary of state's results page. we've had ballots counted from 50% of the registered voters, but that data point doesn't mention how many ballots haven't been counted, yet. so far, there is a narrow margin saying there should be no obligation for healthcare to be affordable, a modest majority saying we should not be able to make (criminal) prisoners work, twice as many voters saying legislators who make a habit of skipping work shouldn't be allowed to be reelected, and a tiny majority favoring requiring all people to have a license (with a background check) as a prerequisite for buying firearms. (and also prohibiting magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds) in the governor's race, people are favoring increasing housing stocks and not allowing price gouging on rent over stripping protection from harassment as a solution to homeless camps; by the narrowest of margins. I'd guess mail in results will take up to a week? the election usually gets certified pretty quickly. since ballots have to be IN by the close of polls, there's no waiting for the late mailers to trickle in. so basically when a candidate or measure has a lead greater than the number of uncounted votes, the result can be announced. it's only when the margin is narrow enough to trigger a manual recount that it takes extra time. since we're 100% mail in voting we also don't have the issues with people throwing tantrums because one party prefers vote by mail and the other prefers in person voting; which results in significant swings since the two sets of ballots are typically counted separately. correction: it appears the rules changed this year, and ballots only have to be postmarked by the deadline, which, yes, with the slowdowns in the postal service over the last two years, it will take a week or more for all the cast ballots to come in.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Nov 9, 2022 19:24:31 GMT
Smear campaigns MUST be effective or candidates wouldn't spend so much time and effort on them. That said, I would welcome a candidate to speak about themselves and their plans, vs smearing an opponent. Political ads are THE WORST in my opinion.
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Post by GTCGreg on Nov 9, 2022 19:36:01 GMT
Smear campaigns MUST be effective or candidates wouldn't spend so much time and effort on them. That said, I would welcome a candidate to speak about themselves and their plans, vs smearing an opponent. Political ads are THE WORST in my opinion. Unfortunately, smear ads have been shown to be very effective. When a candidate doesn’t have much positives in their favor, their only option is to point out their opponents negatives.
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Post by ironhold on Nov 9, 2022 19:39:12 GMT
Essentially, *both* major US parties can claim a pyrrhic victory this week.
The GOP blocked efforts to flip Texas and Florida blue, setting up Florida's Governor De Santis for a possible POTUS run in 2024 and pretty much squashing Beto O'Rourke's career as he's now a three-time failure. The GOP will likely also take Congress.
However, a massive surge in under-30s blunted what was expected to be a "Red Wave" by observers, such that the GOP's margin within Congress will be narrow and several key governorships are still Democrat.
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Post by GTCGreg on Nov 9, 2022 20:06:18 GMT
And unfortunately the under 30 crowd is a bunch of zombie-vegetables as a result of what our universities and colleges have been turning out for the past 40 years. They will vote for whoever promises to keep them fed and watered.
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Post by ironhold on Nov 9, 2022 20:27:09 GMT
And unfortunately the under 30 crowd is a bunch of zombie-vegetables as a result of what our universities and colleges have been turning out for the past 40 years. They will vote for whoever promises to keep them fed and watered. From what I'm seeing, general speculation is that the student loan repayment scheme was a key factor in winning people over, essentially Biden bribing people to vote for his side.
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Post by the light works on Nov 9, 2022 21:44:58 GMT
And unfortunately the under 30 crowd is a bunch of zombie-vegetables as a result of what our universities and colleges have been turning out for the past 40 years. They will vote for whoever promises to keep them fed and watered. and most of the over 60s will vote for whoever promises to spank the under 30s. it balances.
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Post by the light works on Nov 9, 2022 21:46:50 GMT
And unfortunately the under 30 crowd is a bunch of zombie-vegetables as a result of what our universities and colleges have been turning out for the past 40 years. They will vote for whoever promises to keep them fed and watered. From what I'm seeing, general speculation is that the student loan repayment scheme was a key factor in winning people over, essentially Biden bribing people to vote for his side. there is a long history of that on all sides. it's what pork barrel politics is all about.
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Post by GTCGreg on Nov 9, 2022 21:52:57 GMT
And unfortunately the under 30 crowd is a bunch of zombie-vegetables as a result of what our universities and colleges have been turning out for the past 40 years. They will vote for whoever promises to keep them fed and watered. and most of the over 60s will vote for whoever promises to spank the under 30s. it balances. They need to just shut up and get off my lawn.
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Post by the light works on Nov 10, 2022 2:58:23 GMT
the vote count supporting the law that healthcare has to be affordable has squeaked past the vote count opposing.
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Post by GTCGreg on Nov 10, 2022 5:24:12 GMT
the vote count supporting the law that healthcare has to be affordable has squeaked past the vote count opposing. Wow, that was sure simple. So now everyone has affordable healthcare? And who'd of thunk all it was going to take was a law that says it's so.
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Post by rmc on Nov 10, 2022 10:07:26 GMT
I'd guess mail in results will take up to a week? the election usually gets certified pretty quickly. since ballots have to be IN by the close of polls, there's no waiting for the late mailers to trickle in. so basically when a candidate or measure has a lead greater than the number of uncounted votes, the result can be announced. it's only when the margin is narrow enough to trigger a manual recount that it takes extra time. since we're 100% mail in voting we also don't have the issues with people throwing tantrums because one party prefers vote by mail and the other prefers in person voting; which results in significant swings since the two sets of ballots are typically counted separately. correction: it appears the rules changed this year, and ballots only have to be postmarked by the deadline, which, yes, with the slowdowns in the postal service over the last two years, it will take a week or more for all the cast ballots to come in. Good. Goooooooood. Muh-ha-ha. I'll just illegally postmark my envelopey and off to dee mail orifice...
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Post by the light works on Nov 10, 2022 14:49:01 GMT
votes are still trickling in, but the results seem to be pretty stable. affordable healthcare written into law, no more forced labor for (criminal) inmates, people hold licenses to buy firearms, and the biggest gap: skipping town to prevent the legislature having a quorum disqualifies legislators from holding public office.
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