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Post by oscardeuce on Apr 1, 2013 4:55:00 GMT
Drill on the side of the blown pupil.
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Post by srmarti on Apr 1, 2013 14:22:46 GMT
Someone shot today would likely be shot with a modern weapon. Not an antique. So it's modern medicine versus modern weapons. Even if survivable, that doesn't automatically mean no permanent damage and disability. Just not dying doesn't mean he could still perform his job as president. The congresswoman that got shot not too long ago survived but had to resign as she couldn't do the job any more.
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Post by Antigone68104 on Apr 4, 2013 15:15:07 GMT
I don't know if we can really compare Lincoln's injuries to Gabrielle Giffords'. According to an FBI analysis of the gun believed to have been used by Booth (they authenticated it), it was a .44. The news reports I've been able to Google say Giffords was shot with a 9mm. (Here's that analysis, if anyone's interested: www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/jan2001/schehl.htm/ ) Maybe a modern assassin wouldn't use a percussion-cap weapon, but a single-shot .44 is possible ... and possibly easier to smuggle past security than a larger handgun. |
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Post by srmarti on Apr 4, 2013 15:18:52 GMT
I don't know if we can really compare Lincoln's injuries to Gabrielle Giffords'. According to an FBI analysis of the gun believed to have been used by Booth (they authenticated it), it was a .44. The news reports I've been able to Google say Giffords was shot with a 9mm. (Here's that analysis, if anyone's interested: www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/jan2001/schehl.htm/ ) Maybe a modern assassin wouldn't use a percussion-cap weapon, but a single-shot .44 is possible ... and possibly easier to smuggle past security than a larger handgun. An modern assassin is going to choose a single shot pistol to kill the president? Seems unlikely. |
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Post by Lokifan on Apr 4, 2013 23:28:24 GMT
At point blank range, that's all they'd need. And, it's small.
From what I've read, the number one fear of the Secret Service is that the assassin won't care about getting away. Then, all they need is to get close enough to kill.
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Post by srmarti on Apr 5, 2013 1:52:03 GMT
At point blank range, that's all they'd need. And, it's small. From what I've read, the number one fear of the Secret Service is that the assassin won't care about getting away. Then, all they need is to get close enough to kill. Maybe, but if that determined, it seems like he would want more than that one chance. |
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Post by the light works on Apr 9, 2013 16:56:40 GMT
At point blank range, that's all they'd need. And, it's small. From what I've read, the number one fear of the Secret Service is that the assassin won't care about getting away. Then, all they need is to get close enough to kill. Maybe, but if that determined, it seems like he would want more than that one chance. actually, most pistols of that type are two shot weapons. - but the general line of reasoning for the single shot variant is that if you need two you did something wrong. |
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Post by maxman on Aug 5, 2013 7:13:07 GMT
Important to note that the .44 we're talking about isn't the same as the Remington .44 Magnum, or the .44 Special, but rather a cap and ball round the happens to measure .44 inches.
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Post by the light works on Aug 5, 2013 15:58:40 GMT
Questions like this always make me wonder what our descendants will think of our medical techniques in 100 years or so... "They stuck NEEDLES into their patients to deliver medications?" |
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Post by OziRiS on Aug 6, 2013 5:40:31 GMT
Questions like this always make me wonder what our descendants will think of our medical techniques in 100 years or so... "They stuck NEEDLES into their patients to deliver medications?" They could only keep people alive for 80-100 years? Amateurs... |
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Aug 6, 2013 14:07:32 GMT
"They stuck NEEDLES into their patients to deliver medications?" They could only keep people alive for 80-100 years? Amateurs... Kidney dialysis! Radical chemotherapy! My God, what is this, the Dark Ages!?! |
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