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Post by the light works on Jan 6, 2013 22:45:37 GMT
The first crate the driver is informed as waste products for recycling. The Second crate is labelled "Fragile Glass", and the driver is warned its to be handled with care. Bad example. In the second case, it's just an insurance problem, in the first case, you can loose your license to drive waste products if something wents bad. Also who would put common cargo into a truck certified to be used with waste products? that's generic waste, not biological waste. here, a common load is cardboard for recycling. that's the kind of waste silverdragon was speaking of.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 7, 2013 5:18:06 GMT
Recycling can be Paper, Metal, Glass, many products, if that is Bio-Hazard waste, it becomes ADR and requires minimum orange plate. I dont think a novice driver would be getting ADR straight away (Dangerous Goods) so I am almost sure most people would see waste for recycling as NON-Hazardous waste?..... Such as mentioned, cardboard or paper, or even tin or aluminium cans.
Waste for recycling I have carried in my job included heavy crates of Aluminium, steel, and other metal shavings from Lathes that go back to the foundry to be melted down. Its a common load around Sheffield England which is a major Steel Foundry city.
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Post by c64 on Jan 7, 2013 17:24:02 GMT
Recycling can be Paper, Metal, Glass, many products, if that is Bio-Hazard waste, it becomes ADR and requires minimum orange plate. Things are not that simple everywhere: www.gesetze-im-internet.de/krwg/__10.htmlwww.gesetze-im-internet.de/krwg/__55.htmlYu are not allowed to drive garbage unless you are trained somewhat. You need to know how dangerous various kinds of trash are and you need to know how to safely handle it and prevent mixing it - even if it's ordinary stuff like paper and glass. Paper can rot and glass garbage isn't clean and rots, too so you have a small bio-hazard there! Also leaking glass shreds onto a road isn't good either. So there are special rules about the vehicle and the training of the driver. I used to drive paper for charity every year until I wasn't allowed to do it any more unless I get the proper training and papers (documents). The real problem was that the 4.7 ton truck of the church and all tractors we could get for our mission wasn't OK to drive waste papers so we had to stop collecting money for charity by collecting waste paper.
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Post by the light works on Jan 7, 2013 17:33:14 GMT
Recycling can be Paper, Metal, Glass, many products, if that is Bio-Hazard waste, it becomes ADR and requires minimum orange plate. Things are not that simple everywhere: www.gesetze-im-internet.de/krwg/__10.htmlwww.gesetze-im-internet.de/krwg/__55.htmlYu are not allowed to drive garbage unless you are trained somewhat. You need to know how dangerous various kinds of trash are and you need to know how to safely handle it and prevent mixing it - even if it's ordinary stuff like paper and glass. Paper can rot and glass garbage isn't clean and rots, too so you have a small bio-hazard there! Also leaking glass shreds onto a road isn't good either. So there are special rules about the vehicle and the training of the driver. I used to drive paper for charity every year until I wasn't allowed to do it any more unless I get the proper training and papers (documents). The real problem was that the 4.7 ton truck of the church and all tractors we could get for our mission wasn't OK to drive waste papers so we had to stop collecting money for charity by collecting waste paper. okay, the driver is told one load is defective ceramic castings in a spillproof container; which is to be deliver to a plant that will crush them for remanufacture; while the other load is ceramic castings to be delivered to a retail warehouse. you are pulling the question off the topic of how the driving will differ if the driver perceives a need to use caution to prevent breakage, and if he does not perceive a need to prevent breakage.
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Post by c64 on Jan 7, 2013 21:51:11 GMT
you are pulling the question off the topic of how the driving will differ if the driver perceives a need to use caution to prevent breakage, and if he does not perceive a need to prevent breakage. I was just pointing out that it was a bad example with the garbage. Just think crates of diaper vs. fine china
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Post by the light works on Jan 8, 2013 1:57:39 GMT
you are pulling the question off the topic of how the driving will differ if the driver perceives a need to use caution to prevent breakage, and if he does not perceive a need to prevent breakage. I was just pointing out that it was a bad example with the garbage. Just think crates of diaper vs. fine china they recycle diapers in Germany? (yeah, okay, cloth diapers, but they call it laundering, here)
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 8, 2013 10:20:00 GMT
Without doing the "No [Shirt], Sherlock" thing, if anyone who hasnt seen the drivers seat on a trash wagon takes a look, there are a forest of complicated controls you wont see on an equivalent size commercial vehicle....
You need Class Two (C) Licence MINIMUM, with some experience in heavy haul to start, then you get FURTHER instruction and a test even by the firm that employs you to drive one. You may also be put through the lower classes of Dangerous Goods licence ( ADR )
However, that is unnecessary complications on what was supposed to be taken as perhaps a crate of metal shavings from a small engineering firm going to the furnace to be recycled kind of suggestion....
Can we just move on and agree this will NOT be any form of Hazardous Waste and will NOT require an Orange Plate even for transport reasons?.....
After all, by the rules on UK roads, and I suspect on USA roads, and many other roads world wide, driving a Hazardous Load without Orange Plate is against the law, and we were not going to do THAT were we?....
I thought I had already made that clear?...
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