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Post by OziRiS on Jan 21, 2013 19:01:38 GMT
I've been searching the web for the best free "Fix everything that's wrong with your computer at once" program out there, as I recently realized that CCleaner, while still a good program, doesn't exactly get to the bottom of things, so to speak... As users of CCleaner know very well, the main function of the program is to clean out cookies and temporary files from your computer and also cleaning out your registry, giving your computer the best work terms possible. Or so you're led to believe. I recently downloaded AVG PC TuneUp 2011 upon encouragement from a friend and I was shocked at what it found that CCleaner hadn't! It found more than a thousand invalid registry keys that regular CCleaner scans hadn't and performed a comprehensive defragmentation of my hard drives. And it has even more features that I've missed from programs I had for previous Windows versions and was happy to see again, including the option to get rid of that infernal arrow on shortcut icons, making content invisible while moving windows across the screen and a lot of other small tweaks that improves overall performance. My computer is running a lot better after this, but now I'm curious... Is there something even better out there? I know I started out saying it should be free, but if the absolute best program requires some payment, I'd be willing to entertain the thought of buying it. Fire away!
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Post by freegan on Jan 21, 2013 19:58:20 GMT
Thanks for the tip about AVG PC TuneUP 2011. I'll give it a try.
What I regularly use is PC ReImage. It's a paid-for program that analyses your Windows operating system drive, digging out malware and replacing corrupt files. It even applies the necessary updates, sometimes correcting Microsoft's 'oversights' in their routines that may make your system vulnerable (all done with Microsoft's permission). It costs $69.95 per year for a single PC or $99.95 for up to three PCs and you can use it as often as you like within that year. At the end of the year you'll get a reminder to renew two weeks before your license expires. Wait a week and they offer you 10% discount but hold out to the last day and they give you 20% off.
The AVG routine will be useful to me to trim out the chaff and tweak the registry before the Reimage or just to get rid of those annoying shortcut arrows.
Sounds like AVG would be useful for routine maintenance with Reimage in reserve for crashes and misbehaviour.
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Post by watcher56 on Jan 21, 2013 22:13:45 GMT
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Post by blazerrose on Jan 22, 2013 5:28:28 GMT
Just read the Cnet reviews - the AVG program gets 3 stars, with one person saying his DVD burner no longer worked after running it, because it removed too much stuff.
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Post by c64 on Jan 22, 2013 21:35:17 GMT
There can't be any "Fix everything that's wrong with your computer at once" program out there since it can't know what mess you need in order to make some of your propitiatory software or hardware work and what mess is a real accident.
Well, the closest program which did that for Windows systems came from Microsoft itself, you had to type a command to activate it: "format c:" This no longer works since W2k but C4 should do a good job, too!
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 24, 2013 7:50:16 GMT
CClenaer wont remove any registry keys it thinks may be linked to something.
In that way, it is "safe" to use.... Not all registry keys dredged up by other commercial cleaners are that invalid, they may belong to a piece of software you have not used for some time, or may be part of settings saved by software, such as printing preferences saved by your photo editing software.... CCleaner looks to make sure the software exists before it marks a registry key invalid. In that way, because its a gentle cleaner, its much safer.
I have a program called Baku, that is the wire wool of Registry cleaners, but I wont be recommending it here, because its a complicated process of checking each registry key it flags before you let it rip them out, and certainly not for everyone to use... it WILL cause damage if used incorrectly. For that reason, its also hard to find on the internet....
Beware of those that offer "Free" scans...
The term for them in the Tech-Help world s "Scare-ware".... They scan you for "Free", then ask for an almost unbelievable amount to "Fix" those problems... most of the thousand or so problems they will report to you are not to be fixed if you want to use your computer again, they are just "Invented" during the free scan to make you scared.
DO NOT download anything that reports to have already scanned your computer and found problems... ask how it did that already?... is it because you visited a certain site?... dont visit that site again..........
The reason CCleaner is held in so high regard by tech-help sites is the fact its a gentle cleaner, and although it prompts you to make backups, you rarely ever have to use them, because it wont ever remove anything that is important... however rarely you may use the linked software, if its linked to something valid, it wont remove it.... And in that way, until you know more than the programmers that make CCleaner, you shouldnt remove anything it leaves behind either?....
Tinkering under the hood of XP is a good hobby.... But its one that should be done on a "Do a backup FIRST" method.... I have many years experience of doing that, yes you can get surprising results, I have lightened my whole XP installation by almost a third of its initial disk space by removing stuff that isnt needed....including a whole duplicate directory of the initial instalation that hides in XP.... Do Not go looking for the directory unless you have a wish to do a re-install.
In the advanced settings of CCleaner, there is the ability to remove installation files left behind after XP does its monthly update... removing them lightens the load, but removes the ability to roll back to before that update, because it contains data of what changed..... So unless you have a backup, should you remove those files?.... Well, you should have a backup anyway..... There are various settings under CCleaner to give a deeper result, but, what it is is a tool to remove pure crud. What it removes you really do NOT need... that is all it says it will do and all it will do.
Can I advise on anything that is better than CCleaner?...
Yes.
Are any of them a "One button" fix everything?...
No.
There are many and varied tools that will do certain things, if you think you have a problem, ask, someone here may be able to advise, but in my estimation, "One button fix everything" programs that advertise as such should be avoided ... they are possibly more harmful than a landmine....
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 28, 2013 9:11:40 GMT
Thanks for the feedback guys. I just have to say real quick, in defence of AVG PC TuneUp, that I've been running it for 3 weeks now and the only result I've got so far is improved performance. I'm not saying that nothing can go wrong with this program. I'm just saying it hasn't yet for me.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 30, 2013 9:33:39 GMT
Please dont think we are in any way decrying THAT program... If its by AVG, its half decent.
However, beware of ANYTHING you have never heard of before....
If you do see stuff, and you are not sure, ask here....
If we dont know it, its probably suspect, if we say its not that good, take that as a "Caveat Emptor", buyer beware, but dont think we have the last say....
However....
I know of one or two VERY dangerous places?... if I, or anyone else, says "RUN AWAY", please give us the credit that that kind of advice is usually backed up with evidence from (In my case) Norton Community watch, and possibly several other well respected sites that say its bad news?.... This whole section, Technical Aid, is so that all of the members of the board can chip in with well respected advice.
The DVD Burner problem that Blazerose mentioned, I have seen this before, and I cant remember the exact, but if I can remember, its linked to one particular DVD burner, it may be a "Light-scribe", that PRINTS labels on the DVD's..... The software that runs that tends to "Fall over" if a powerful cleaning program is run.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jan 30, 2013 13:39:21 GMT
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 31, 2013 10:00:37 GMT
Major Geeks, good clean "Hosting" site to get hold of software you know you want... You can be sure that the software it hosts does not come with any hitch-hikers either.... It doesnt vouch for any of its software, so google for reviews before you blindly download.
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Post by kharnynb on Feb 22, 2013 13:46:38 GMT
There is no one stop fix.
Free and good: Malwarebytes for malware.
Ccleaner for basic maintanance
Spybot s&d for spyware.
avast or avg for antivirus.
Windows defender if you have vista or higher, it's pretty damn decent nowadays.
Also, windows firewall does a very good job, easily comparible to any free product and even most comercial ones.
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Post by WebDragon on Mar 19, 2013 3:38:52 GMT
CClenaer wont remove any registry keys it thinks may be linked to something. The term for them in the Tech-Help world s "Scare-ware".... They scan you for "Free", then ask for an almost unbelievable amount to "Fix" those problems... most of the thousand or so problems they will report to you are not to be fixed if you want to use your computer again, they are just "Invented" during the free scan to make you scared. DO NOT download anything that reports to have already scanned your computer and found problems... ask how it did that already?... is it because you visited a certain site?... dont visit that site again.......... Yep... "X software found 4853 problems and fixed 32... to fix the remaining and improve performance by X%, please subscribe." testicles ! "How did it do that already?" ... indeed. If you're running anything beyond a Commodore 64, registry errors (unless virus driven) mean nothing. They're merely "pointers", some of which no longer have a purpose, yet occupy space... a micro, nay... nano space on your GigaByte machine. Comparably, you gather more harmless "occupants" under your fingernails by running your fingers through your hair. Sure, regular maintenance is a good thing, preventative maintenance is even better. Hell, my car, when waxed and polished... "feels" a little faster.
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Post by c64 on Mar 19, 2013 22:27:29 GMT
If you're running anything beyond a Commodore 64, registry errors (unless virus driven) mean nothing. They're merely "pointers", some of which no longer have a purpose, yet occupy space... a micro, nay... nano space on your GigaByte machine. Actually, the registry data is compressed and that used to be the problem on a 486 or early Pentium - decompressing dead entries took a lot of extra time! And when the registry became too big for the cache, you had a lengthy HDD access every time you did something more complex than moving the mouse e.g. a right click is looked up in the registry to decide what to do with it, a double click also is looked up in the registry to decide what the alternate command for the icon would be (e.g. which Program to start to open it). And you can do many nasty things to the registry which make the OS crash. True, since Win XP it won't crash any more but freeze until a timeout says "never mind" and ignore your last action. And by the way, the C64 had lots of bugs, too! "You can't destroy a computer with software!" - Muhahahahahaha! You can! And it had many other nastinesses hidden in the system. E.g. command the Floppy to overwrite a file. It will first save your new data and THEN "scratch" the old data. And if the disk is full or writing the new data fails for one reason or another, it "scratches" anyway!
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Post by freegan on Apr 11, 2013 0:35:50 GMT
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Post by OziRiS on Apr 11, 2013 18:05:47 GMT
Great link Freegan! Thanks
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Post by freegan on Jun 6, 2014 0:27:30 GMT
I have momentarily revived this thread to rescind my recommendation of Reimage. Having allowed my previous subscription to lapse, I belatedly renewed it having acquired and removed an intrusion by that infamous three-letter American online espionage organisation. Their scans refused to run correctly depriving me of the opportunity to use any license keys they had issued. Their responses to my reports of problems met with sluggish and ineffectual responses, dragging the process out for over a month. Pointing out that their advertising guff promised " Guaranteed instant results or your money back, no questions asked" prompted them to cycle me around their complaints procedure from the beginning with their same stock responses that had failed to produce results the first time around. Insisting that they honour their advertised commitment merely prompted them to issue the same stock responses rather more rapidly in their efforts to avoid issuing the required refund. They have wasted more than a month of my twelve month paid subscription (the period runs from date of purchase rather than first successful use). I am currently at loggerheads with them over their inadequate customer support and their withholding of my refund. It would appear that the standards of the company that I so highly regarded have slipped dramatically and I can therefore no longer recommend their services to anybody. If I have any further updates on the situation, I shall post them here.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 9, 2014 6:27:49 GMT
Try this simple trick
Take whatever firm you want to know more about and put it into your search bar, then add the word forums.
The first page should tell you who has problems with that software and why.
I just did that with the Reimage forums search, and the first page is full of complaints. Unfortunately, from what I can find, their complaints procedure is designed to try you patience until you give up complaining. For this reason, I highly recommend paying by credit card, because through a credit card in the UK, and some other countries, you have some protection against goods not fit for use and re-reimbursements for faulty goods....
If you did pay by card, approach your card issuer, with a list of the methods you have used to already ask for a refund, and see if your bank has any better luck. You may find if you use "Not fit for use", and "Fraudulent claims on its website", along with "Failed to install correctly, cant get it to work", and "Not been able to use it at all, and their technical help is useless", the bank may be able to help.... Check if you have any insurance that covers you as well.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 9, 2014 6:34:31 GMT
And finally, I have recently has a problem with Norton. Its something to do with Norton and Windows Updates. Every time Wind-woes did an update, it prevented Norton from working correctly..... Not only did Norton take me seriously, I believe that have put in a "Fix" to prevent it happening to anyone else, as it affected other people as well. They also kept me well informed, with good useful and exact help that put in a fix, and once my own installation was working again, they contacted me a few days later just to make sure it was still working....
Paid for software, pick a well known company, and keep an eye on reviews. I did. I also reported back what I found. That is why the newest versions of |Norton have been extremely "Light" on the system.... after numerous complaints, Norton actually did something about that.
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