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Post by the light works on Jun 24, 2013 16:32:46 GMT
There is an appearance in emergency driving that having the siren on, causes an automatic increase in speed. It might be interesting to run tests to see if drivers on a closed course are likely to drive faster if they are driving with a siren on than driving without it on. since this is a psychological experiment, there would also need to be a cover story that gave them an excuse to have drivers go through a course both with and without a siren. perhaps a secondary myth that relates to the siren's effect on the heart rate or something
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Post by Cybermortis on Jun 24, 2013 16:47:24 GMT
Maybe they could use an old police cruiser, rig the siren so it can be activated remotely, and them tell the drivers that there is a glitch in the electrics that sometimes activates the siren while driving.
Have drivers race around a course a few times to get used to it, them turn the siren on for the next lap and off for the one after - to see if the average speed changes.
They would probably want to get a couple of police officers in as drivers as well. It could be argued that either they will A; Not be affected by the siren as they are used to it or B; Associate the noise with trouble, and therefore release adrenaline and drive faster.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 24, 2013 16:55:50 GMT
Seems that whenever drivers are under stress, they drive faster. That would seem true if there is an approaching storm, just had an argument with a member of their family, going to an important meeting (even if not running late), or hearing a warning siren. Also seems true of more local issues such as getting very low on gas, although driving slower may actually be more beneficial most people seem to speed up as if they will get to the gas station before running out.
I agree with TLW. It would be interesting to see what the Mythbusters found.
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Post by the light works on Jun 24, 2013 17:29:46 GMT
Seems that whenever drivers are under stress, they drive faster. That would seem true if there is an approaching storm, just had an argument with a member of their family, going to an important meeting (even if not running late), or hearing a warning siren. Also seems true of more local issues such as getting very low on gas, although driving slower may actually be more beneficial most people seem to speed up as if they will get to the gas station before running out. I agree with TLW. It would be interesting to see what the Mythbusters found. that doesn't necessarily hold true - but in many cases more adrenaline - more velocity. there are some stressors that seem to slow people down - like an unfamiliar vehicle or unfamiliar road, OR HAVING A FIRE ENGINE RIDING THEIR BUMPER TRYING TO GET AROUND THEM! [/rant] |
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 24, 2013 19:33:05 GMT
OR HAVING A FIRE ENGINE RIDING THEIR BUMPER TRYING TO GET AROUND THEM! So I see you've driven a fire engine behind my wife. Her reaction to hearing a siren or seeing flashing lights is to freeze in place. Even if that means blocking traffic so the EV can't get through. I've tried on many occasions to explain that's not the correct response. The law in our state says to "make way" for emergency vehicles. That could mean pulling over, moving forward or even going through a red light if it's safe to do and it would mean getting out of the way for the emergency vehicle to get through. |
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Post by the light works on Jun 24, 2013 19:45:42 GMT
we do have a few "freezers" but I was referring to when we don't run lights and sirens. people do tend to slow a bit if they're looking for a place to get off the road - which is forgivable if they will have to make an abrupt stop when they do.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 25, 2013 8:33:33 GMT
From my Dads explanation, you do drive faster with siren on, because its the need to drive faster that makes you put the siren on?....
If you are an emergency driver, Fast speed and Sirens are co-dependant... you shouldn't have one without the other?....
As in, if you are on a "Shout" that isnt Urgent, no siren, no speeding.....
My Dads tuition was the siren is there to let other people know where you are, its up to the driver to navigate between the other vehicles,, and only use as much speed as is necessary.... or is viable at that time... as in, if you see a road crossing full of school kids crossing the road, you MUST slow down and prepare to stop?... barrelling up to a full crossing at 60 is just going to cause an accident?.... kids will quite happily trample over each other running away?...
It May have been my Dad who first said to me if you cant stop in the space you can see you are travelling too fast...
Other Peoples response...
I have to say that at the moment, I am really quite happy to report that in the recent few months, or even longer, I have seen the general public react rather well to emergency vehicles, get out of the way, make a hole, and do that well in advance of the emergency vehicle approaching....
UK, award yourself a "Good driving" badge for that....
One or two nutters, of course, including the usual (deleted) in an audi "Chasing" the emergency vehicle, using the gap in the traffic to que-jump..... (Last week...)
Audi... for rings on the boot, why?.. there is only one (backside) driving it....
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Post by the light works on Jun 25, 2013 15:06:15 GMT
From my Dads explanation, you do drive faster with siren on, because its the need to drive faster that makes you put the siren on?.... If you are an emergency driver, Fast speed and Sirens are co-dependant... you shouldn't have one without the other?.... As in, if you are on a "Shout" that isnt Urgent, no siren, no speeding..... My Dads tuition was the siren is there to let other people know where you are, its up to the driver to navigate between the other vehicles,, and only use as much speed as is necessary.... or is viable at that time... as in, if you see a road crossing full of school kids crossing the road, you MUST slow down and prepare to stop?... barrelling up to a full crossing at 60 is just going to cause an accident?.... kids will quite happily trample over each other running away?... It May have been my Dad who first said to me if you cant stop in the space you can see you are travelling too fast... Other Peoples response... I have to say that at the moment, I am really quite happy to report that in the recent few months, or even longer, I have seen the general public react rather well to emergency vehicles, get out of the way, make a hole, and do that well in advance of the emergency vehicle approaching.... UK, award yourself a "Good driving" badge for that.... One or two nutters, of course, including the usual (deleted) in an audi "Chasing" the emergency vehicle, using the gap in the traffic to que-jump..... (Last week...) Audi... for rings on the boot, why?.. there is only one (backside) driving it.... Lawyer? or do you call them "ambulance chasers" there? |
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 26, 2013 7:02:41 GMT
Neither, he was seen to take the next Motorway entrance.
Ambulance chasers tend to get a ticket from the first police officer who sees them, and a smack on the nose if they interfere with patent transfer at a hospital?....
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