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Post by WhutScreenName on Sept 12, 2017 17:09:43 GMT
I thought it was okay. It wasn't awesome, it wasn't terrible. It was good enough to continue watching.
It's most certainly a spoof of Star Trek, from the ship, to the crew, down to the theme music. But, as TLW said, it's enough different to be it's own thing. The comedy aspect of it was rather non-existent. The 'jokes' that were put in, for the most part, were predictable or childish. I liked that it was light-hearted though, it didn't seem to take itself to seriously. Overall, for me it's worth tuning into to see how it goes. Could end up to be a pretty fun show
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Post by Cybermortis on Sept 12, 2017 19:56:23 GMT
The real question would be how it stands up compared to the pilot episodes and first season of TNG onwards.
It takes a while for a show to 'bed in' and find its tone, style, pacing and how best to write for the characters. Alas all too often it seems that networks and viewers expect shows to jump out of the gate fully formed hits, and FOX in particular seems thus far to be incapable of taking chances on sci-fi series.
I'm hoping they take a chance and give this a second season, even at this stage.
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Post by the light works on Sept 12, 2017 20:33:27 GMT
The real question would be how it stands up compared to the pilot episodes and first season of TNG onwards. It takes a while for a show to 'bed in' and find its tone, style, pacing and how best to write for the characters. Alas all too often it seems that networks and viewers expect shows to jump out of the gate fully formed hits, and FOX in particular seems thus far to be incapable of taking chances on sci-fi series. I'm hoping they take a chance and give this a second season, even at this stage. for me, it will depend on whether they take the characters they have and let them grow and mature, or if they freeze their emotional development and play up the dysfunction. in short, I've found that I like the characters even though I think some of them are twits. but if they don't show signs of personal growth, I can easily find them annoying. addendum: on a related note, I'm adding McHale's Navy to the netflix queue. |
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Post by Lokifan on Sept 12, 2017 21:46:27 GMT
For me, I found the entire first year of ST:TNG to be pretty terrible, so being better than that is a low bar to pass.
In an effort to be oh so advanced, they removed the conflict necessary to drive a good story, and that hurt them.
The typical plot was:
1. Find new planet/ship of "forehead aliens"
2. Discover they aren't doing things that we like/not understanding The Threat [X] Poses
3. Aliens threaten ship, planet, galaxy, or universe.
4. Picard makes pretty speech on principlez.
5. Aliens slap foreheads, declare "Why didn't we think of that?" and promise good behavior.
6. Everyone congratulates each other on success!
7. Press reset button to return to starting conditions next week.
Meh. Just my opinion.
I wouldn't mind a bit more silliness, if it could be done like the first few years of Red Dwarf.
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Post by Cybermortis on Sept 12, 2017 22:28:46 GMT
Seth McFarland tweeted that The Orville will be aired on FOXtv in the UK, although he does not yet know the date.
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Post by wvengineer on Sept 12, 2017 22:40:16 GMT
FWIW, "The Orville" is on Hulu. I'll try watching it tonight and I'll post any feedback.
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Post by ponytail61 on Sept 12, 2017 23:03:22 GMT
FWIW, "The Orville" is on Hulu. I'll try watching it tonight and I'll post any feedback. Fox is also re-airing it tonight. |
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 13, 2017 5:57:30 GMT
Seth McFarland tweeted that The Orville will be aired on FOXtv in the UK, although he does not yet know the date. I'll have to keep an eye out for it then, thanks. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Sept 13, 2017 15:04:36 GMT
Finally got a chance to watch The Orville.
I guess the good news is I made it all the way through the first episode without turning it off. Once I got use to all the CG generated sets, the overall production quality wasn't too bad. With the CG sets, I wasn't always sure if I was watching a live show or an animated series. What real sets and props they used looked like they were made out of cardboard, which they probably were.
Most of what they wanted to pass as humor, I found to be geared more to high school level. That seems to be the par for network shows these days. Often, it seemed that they were so determined to get their humorist lines in, that it was more awkward than funny. There were a couple of funny lines, but for the most part, I could do without most of it.
There was a good mix of character personalities and the interaction of these personality types was interesting. As TLW suggests, the characters need to grow and mature if the show is going to survive. The first story line was typical Star Treckish. I know they had to put a lot extra in because it was the first episode and they needed to set the stage. Hopefully they will come up with some new interesting story lines.
Overall, I'd give it a C+ at this point. A lot of stupid, as expected, but also interesting enough that I'll watch episode two. Too bad I don't have that time accelerator they had in episode one. I'd be able to tell if I'll be wasting my time with episode two.
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 14, 2017 7:26:56 GMT
Seth McFarland tweeted that The Orville will be aired on FOXtv in the UK, although he does not yet know the date. Maybe not quite Irony, but fox channels are quickly disappearing in UK...?.. Hurry up whilst we still got some?. |
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Post by the light works on Sept 18, 2017 1:34:45 GMT
Fox seems to be impressed with how popular the Orville is - they ran a sportsball game long over it.
addendum: part two: they have shifted its location in the schedule. not being an aficionado of the finer points of TV scheduling I don't know if thursday 9:00 is a good slot or a death slot.
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Post by Cybermortis on Sept 19, 2017 22:57:52 GMT
Given the advertising it seems it was intended to air on Thursdays. I also doubt they would have been able to bring out the advertising this quickly had the intention not been to move it to Thursdays from the start.
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Post by wvengineer on Sept 20, 2017 20:12:36 GMT
Fox seems to be impressed with how popular the Orville is - they ran a sportsball game long over it. addendum: part two: they have shifted its location in the schedule. not being an aficionado of the finer points of TV scheduling I don't know if thursday 9:00 is a good slot or a death slot. Typical Fox. When they were airing DS9, they made a big deal when they aired "Trials and Tribble-ations" What better way to celebrate the show they spend so much time and money advertising? They had a football game immediately beforehand run over by an hour and a half, completely covering the show's timeslot. We had to wait until late in the week for them to actually show it. |
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Post by Cybermortis on Sept 20, 2017 21:04:12 GMT
Back in the days of TNG on BBC 2, there was a tendency for the BBC to cancel the show or put it back for an hour to make way for football; something they didn't bother actually telling anyone about.
This stopped after they got a huge number of complaints sent in, keeping in mind this was the pre-internet era and the complaints were physical mail. It was also pointed out that the viewer figures for TNG were actually higher than for the matches they were covering.
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Post by the light works on Sept 21, 2017 0:11:05 GMT
Fox seems to be impressed with how popular the Orville is - they ran a sportsball game long over it. addendum: part two: they have shifted its location in the schedule. not being an aficionado of the finer points of TV scheduling I don't know if thursday 9:00 is a good slot or a death slot. Typical Fox. When they were airing DS9, they made a big deal when they aired "Trials and Tribble-ations" What better way to celebrate the show they spend so much time and money advertising? They had a football game immediately beforehand run over by an hour and a half, completely covering the show's timeslot. We had to wait until late in the week for them to actually show it. which leaves me wondering how they can run a game THAT MUCH over. |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 21, 2017 7:04:06 GMT
Typical Fox. When they were airing DS9, they made a big deal when they aired "Trials and Tribble-ations" What better way to celebrate the show they spend so much time and money advertising? They had a football game immediately beforehand run over by an hour and a half, completely covering the show's timeslot. We had to wait until late in the week for them to actually show it. which leaves me wondering how they can run a game THAT MUCH over. Delayed kick off. typical reasons, Away fans coach convoys delayed because of roadworks or accident that has shut the road. Bad weather. [fog, snow, heavy rain etc] Away TEAM delayed because of road conditions. Crowd problems. That happened recently when a couple of hundred thousand fans from an opposing european team turned up to a London team game without tickets and tried to rush the gates, making it near impossible for those with genuine tickets to get in the ground... No physical violence involved, it just took a while to let the ticket holders through. |
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 21, 2017 7:36:30 GMT
A couple of hundred thousand fans?
The Arsenal vs Cologne match was the one I think you are refering to there were 3000 tickets allocated to the German side and 20000 German fans turned up, far too many but not that many.
Besides which as it was an American Football game that wvengineer was talking about it was probably due to issues on the field of play.
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Post by wvengineer on Sept 21, 2017 13:36:06 GMT
Typical Fox. When they were airing DS9, they made a big deal when they aired "Trials and Tribble-ations" What better way to celebrate the show they spend so much time and money advertising? They had a football game immediately beforehand run over by an hour and a half, completely covering the show's timeslot. We had to wait until late in the week for them to actually show it. which leaves me wondering how they can run a game THAT MUCH over. Still not a big football (American style) fan to start with. I remember at the time that they had a LOT of games that would go over whether due to game play or actual overtime, but it would regularly spill into the DS9 time slot and they rarely would do anything to make up the lost show. I do wonder what was the bigger rating draw for them, the game or Star Trek. They were defiantly catering to the NFL fans over the trekies. |
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Post by the light works on Sept 21, 2017 13:50:30 GMT
which leaves me wondering how they can run a game THAT MUCH over. Still not a big football (American style) fan to start with. I remember at the time that they had a LOT of games that would go over whether due to game play or actual overtime, but it would regularly spill into the DS9 time slot and they rarely would do anything to make up the lost show. I do wonder what was the bigger rating draw for them, the game or Star Trek. They were defiantly catering to the NFL fans over the trekies. I'd correct your typo, but "defiantly" is more appropriate. I remember in the late 80s and early 90s, it was customary to run sportsball games over into the next time slot. I recall making the comment that you could estimate how much longer the game would take once it got into the fourth quarter by taking the number of minutes that had elapsed in the fourth quarter and multiplying them by the number of minutes remaining. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Sept 21, 2017 15:47:21 GMT
Finally got to watch the entire second episode of Orville. My DVR recording of it was mostly football but I was able to stream it from FOX. Only problem was I had to watch all the commercials. They'd let me fast forward through the show, but not through the commercials.
That could actually turn into a decent show if they'd get a little more serious and stop trying to make it a comedy. So far, it's not funny enough to be a comedy and not serious enough not to be. Tonight is episode 3, if Fox doesn't screw something up.
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