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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Aug 22, 2013 5:28:43 GMT
I just saw the Duct Tape Escape Special Two & it's inspired me to issue another Duct Tape Survival Challenge to the Mythbusters.
Ok boys so you've Escaped The Island & Conquered The Canyon now let’s see you Survive The Snow! I have a challenge for the Mythbusters for your next Duct Tape Special to:
Try to survive for 48 hours in a winter snow scenario using their wits & of course Duct Tape to get back to civilisation!
The Scenario:
Jamie & Adam are out enjoying a skiing holiday in a mountain winter wonderland when the get lost in the woods.
(Ok we all know that for Jamie pretending to be lost in the woods will take a massive amount of role playing but go with it ok)
The pair fearing that all is lost stubble across an old abandoned cabin full of Duct Tape - which the must use to get back to the ski lodge where they are staying.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 13:46:44 GMT
Remember that these are Californians. I think hypothermia sets in for them at around 65 degrees. (18.3 in metric temperature)
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Post by Cybermortis on Aug 22, 2013 14:14:28 GMT
Thinking on this the two major problems I can foresee would be;
Safety; Putting the hosts outside in sub-zero temperatures for an extended period would be way too dangerous unless they already have suitable survival gear - which would negate the whole idea.
Too similar to what has been done; We already know some of the uses duct tape can be put to in survival conditions, from making ropes to shoes to water carriers and even a shelter. So anything they might need to use tape for is going to be either the same as or almost identical to things they have already done before.
*Muses*
Instead of looking at uses of the tape in 'extreme' conditions they could go in the other direction? Maybe see what unusual uses duct tape could be put to in everyday life for example? Or they could take a look at some of the myths they've tested over the years and see if they could have built the same rig/setup from duct tape?
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 14:26:49 GMT
Thinking on this the two major problems I can foresee would be; Safety; Putting the hosts outside in sub-zero temperatures for an extended period would be way too dangerous unless they already have suitable survival gear - which would negate the whole idea. Too similar to what has been done; We already know some of the uses duct tape can be put to in survival conditions, from making ropes to shoes to water carriers and even a shelter. So anything they might need to use tape for is going to be either the same as or almost identical to things they have already done before. *Muses* Instead of looking at uses of the tape in 'extreme' conditions they could go in the other direction? Maybe see what unusual uses duct tape could be put to in everyday life for example? Or they could take a look at some of the myths they've tested over the years and see if they could have built the same rig/setup from duct tape? genius.
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Post by Cybermortis on Aug 22, 2013 14:44:35 GMT
Thank you.
Any ideas of suitable ideas for such show ideas?
The only ones I can think of off the top of my head would be seeing if you could create an electric kettle using a heating element and duct tape. We know that the DT can be used to create a water container, but how would it fair if it was holding boiling water? Would it fall apart, and if it didn't would the water be drinkable?
We've seen that it can create a mattress or ground sheet, but what other bits of furniture might you be able to make out of DT? a Chair? A Sofa or even a table?
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 15:00:28 GMT
Thank you. Any ideas of suitable ideas for such show ideas? The only ones I can think of off the top of my head would be seeing if you could create an electric kettle using a heating element and duct tape. We know that the DT can be used to create a water container, but how would it fair if it was holding boiling water? Would it fall apart, and if it didn't would the water be drinkable? We've seen that it can create a mattress or ground sheet, but what other bits of furniture might you be able to make out of DT? a Chair? A Sofa or even a table? the first thing that comes to mind is exploding duct tape trousers.
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Post by User Unavailable on Aug 22, 2013 17:10:41 GMT
Thank you. Any ideas of suitable ideas for such show ideas? The only ones I can think of off the top of my head would be seeing if you could create an electric kettle using a heating element and duct tape. We know that the DT can be used to create a water container, but how would it fair if it was holding boiling water? Would it fall apart, and if it didn't would the water be drinkable? We've seen that it can create a mattress or ground sheet, but what other bits of furniture might you be able to make out of DT? a Chair? A Sofa or even a table? Are we talking made WITH THE ASSISTANCE of duct tape or MADE COMPLETELY FROM duct tape? A chair, sofa and table could all be made both ways. It's just that MADE COMPLETELY FROM duct tape, is going to involve, again, the unlikely scenario of having an entire pallet or two of duct tape available. The amount of duct tape needed in the MADE WITH THE ASSISTANCE of duct tape, depends on the other materials at hand and the creativity in using both the tape and other materials. It could be a pallets worth of tape or only a roll or two. The boiling water scenario is an excellent idea though.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 17:20:15 GMT
Thank you. Any ideas of suitable ideas for such show ideas? The only ones I can think of off the top of my head would be seeing if you could create an electric kettle using a heating element and duct tape. We know that the DT can be used to create a water container, but how would it fair if it was holding boiling water? Would it fall apart, and if it didn't would the water be drinkable? We've seen that it can create a mattress or ground sheet, but what other bits of furniture might you be able to make out of DT? a Chair? A Sofa or even a table? Are we talking made WITH THE ASSISTANCE of duct tape or MADE COMPLETELY FROM duct tape? A chair, sofa and table could all be made both ways. It's just that MADE COMPLETELY FROM duct tape, is going to involve, again, the unlikely scenario of having an entire pallet or two of duct tape available. The amount of duct tape needed in the MADE WITH THE ASSISTANCE of duct tape, depends on the other materials at hand and the creativity in using both the tape and other materials. It could be a pallets worth of tape or only a roll or two. The boiling water scenario is an excellent idea though. my thought would be "can we rebuilt these rigs using duct tape as a primary element?"
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Post by User Unavailable on Aug 22, 2013 18:51:24 GMT
Are we talking made WITH THE ASSISTANCE of duct tape or MADE COMPLETELY FROM duct tape? A chair, sofa and table could all be made both ways. It's just that MADE COMPLETELY FROM duct tape, is going to involve, again, the unlikely scenario of having an entire pallet or two of duct tape available. The amount of duct tape needed in the MADE WITH THE ASSISTANCE of duct tape, depends on the other materials at hand and the creativity in using both the tape and other materials. It could be a pallets worth of tape or only a roll or two. The boiling water scenario is an excellent idea though. my thought would be "can we rebuilt these rigs using duct tape as a primary element?" Define "primary element". For example, if the primary element happens to require the strength and rigidity of a steel arm/beam, I don't think any amount of duct tape is going to work. Such as the framing for various catapult/trebuchet machines they built. Duct tape could be used as ropes and the like, in such rigs. Nor could duct tape be the elastic material for "Border Slingshot", as another example. Duct tape could be used to construct the part which holds the "shot".
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 18:57:46 GMT
my thought would be "can we rebuilt these rigs using duct tape as a primary element?" Define "primary element". For example, if the primary element happens to require the strength and rigidity of a steel arm/beam, I don't think any amount of duct tape is going to work. Such as the framing for various catapult/trebuchet machines they built. Duct tape could be used as ropes and the like, in such rigs. Nor could duct tape be the elastic material for "Border Slingshot", as another example. Duct tape could be used to construct the part which holds the "shot". That was my line of reasoning as well. however, I am left wondering if duct tape could replace the ropes in a torsion catapult. duct tape newspaper crossbow, anyone?
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Post by Cybermortis on Aug 22, 2013 19:45:00 GMT
Duct tape crossbow sounds interesting - at least as interesting as the original paper crossbow.
I guess that you could get around the strength and rigidity issue of duct tape for 'beams' by cheating a little.
Remember that duct tape comes on a roll...so why not save the cardboard rolls, tape them together and use them for beams and the like? Hell, why not just tape the rolls together as they are?
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 19:56:31 GMT
Duct tape crossbow sounds interesting - at least as interesting as the original paper crossbow. I guess that you could get around the strength and rigidity issue of duct tape for 'beams' by cheating a little. Remember that duct tape comes on a roll...so why not save the cardboard rolls, tape them together and use them for beams and the like? Hell, why not just tape the rolls together as they are? premade circular pieces...
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Post by Cybermortis on Aug 22, 2013 20:46:48 GMT
Duct tape crossbow sounds interesting - at least as interesting as the original paper crossbow. I guess that you could get around the strength and rigidity issue of duct tape for 'beams' by cheating a little. Remember that duct tape comes on a roll...so why not save the cardboard rolls, tape them together and use them for beams and the like? Hell, why not just tape the rolls together as they are? premade circular pieces... You know, if you used the cardboard tubes then you might well be able to make a duct tape catapult or trebuchet - albeit a small one. Certainly making a chair or table becomes possible if you are making the legs from the rolls - not that I'd want to put anything heavy or expensive on it....
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 20:50:31 GMT
could you make a viable human analog (buster) from duct tape, bubble wrap, and yardsticks?
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Post by Cybermortis on Aug 23, 2013 12:28:46 GMT
In regards retesting old ideas, this time using duct tape. I think they would have to look carefully at the rigs and builds to see what might be practical.
Myths such as exploding pants would not really be much of a challenge, since it was not the pants themselves that exploded but the chemicals on them - which would still explode regardless of what material they are placed on, and it is rather well known that you can make clothing from duct tape.
Maybe a duct tape rocket? We already know that you can make a cannon from duct tape so presumably you could make a rocket from the stuff too.
Duct Tape Buster sounds interesting, especially since they modified Buster 1.0 to give them more accurate information about injuries - such as wooden bones.
Duct tape glider? They made one out of concrete after all.
By the same token what about a Duct Tape balloon? If you can make it with lead DT should work...if it will hold the gas. Or they could try a hot air balloon made from duct tape - which might be a slightly more interesting take on things and is more likely to work. (Would be a good way to test DT-Buster methinks).
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Post by the light works on Aug 23, 2013 13:41:18 GMT
both duct tape rocket and duct tape hot air balloon sound excellent.
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Post by OziRiS on Aug 23, 2013 22:11:03 GMT
The hot air balloon might be very interesting. I seem to remember the adhesive on duct tape not fairing so well with heat. It tends to become gooey and slippery. Could be interesting to see if they could work around that somehow.
I still think the idea of going absolutely opposite and making everyday things instead of something big and over-the-top is the best idea yet. It's classic MythBusters and yet not typical MythBusters at the same time. Very original concept. I'm just having some difficulties coming up with something interesting to build...
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Post by the light works on Aug 24, 2013 0:21:40 GMT
The hot air balloon might be very interesting. I seem to remember the adhesive on duct tape not fairing so well with heat. It tends to become gooey and slippery. Could be interesting to see if they could work around that somehow. I still think the idea of going absolutely opposite and making everyday things instead of something big and over-the-top is the best idea yet. It's classic MythBusters and yet not typical MythBusters at the same time. Very original concept. I'm just having some difficulties coming up with something interesting to build... obviously we need to re-watch all their old episodes for inspiration.
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Post by User Unavailable on Aug 24, 2013 2:10:33 GMT
Problems with using the cores of the tape rolls: are you going to have enough other stuff to make, to free up enough cores to be useable?
Even with using cores and taping them together, the longer they get, the less stable they will become to sideways forces.
One thing I've never liked about these duct tape shows, is the "unlimited" quantity of duct tape. Sure, it inspires creativity of what you could do with an unlimited amount of duct tape, but suppresses the actual creativity folks would have to "really" use with access to a roll or two, or partial roll of duct tape in a real world application.
With limited quantities, you would have to prioritize your needs, versus available supplies and duct on what you constructed.
True some of the things they did were within the capabilities of a partial roll or full roll or two, but most were not, as I recall.
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Post by the light works on Aug 24, 2013 4:06:34 GMT
Problems with using the cores of the tape rolls: are you going to have enough other stuff to make, to free up enough cores to be useable? Even with using cores and taping them together, the longer they get, the less stable they will become to sideways forces. One thing I've never liked about these duct tape shows, is the "unlimited" quantity of duct tape. Sure, it inspires creativity of what you could do with an unlimited amount of duct tape, but suppresses the actual creativity folks would have to "really" use with access to a roll or two, or partial roll of duct tape in a real world application. With limited quantities, you would have to prioritize your needs, versus available supplies and duct on what you constructed. True some of the things they did were within the capabilities of a partial roll or full roll or two, but most were not, as I recall. I think we were talking about leaving the tape on the core, for most of the applications, like table legs.
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