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Post by kharnynb on Oct 11, 2013 8:51:46 GMT
Good word, rubbernecking....
Today was tyre-switching day for me, next week the sub-zero nights start. I drive a bit too much nighttime to risk waiting a few more weeks.
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Post by the light works on Oct 11, 2013 13:59:06 GMT
Hazard Perception, that is the first lesson..... Second lesson, which is the most important nut to watch on any road vehicle?... Answer, the one holding the wheel. We didnt make it law yet, because thats the unspoken agreement between drivers anyway... Except the bit about stop-and-stare... Rubbernecking as we call it.... Howcome every one passing can turn into a professional accident investigator there on the spot?... I believe in Alaska it is mandatory to stop and render aid as needed. failure to do so may result in the victim dying of worse things than whatever put them on the side of the road to begin with. (and that's one place where air ambulances beat surface vehicles.)
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Post by Lokifan on Oct 11, 2013 14:04:26 GMT
I think it's gotten worse since the invention of smart phones.
I can't count the number of times I've seen a pedestrian totally absorbed in their phone while wandering across the street.
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 11, 2013 18:38:00 GMT
I think it's gotten worse since the invention of smart phones. I can't count the number of times I've seen a pedestrian totally absorbed in their phone while wandering across the street. Since the invention of social media and the smart phone, intelligence is no longer measured in IQ but in GCS (Glasgow Coma Scale). Score a 15 and you're a freakin' genius.
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Post by the light works on Oct 12, 2013 1:49:48 GMT
I think it's gotten worse since the invention of smart phones. I can't count the number of times I've seen a pedestrian totally absorbed in their phone while wandering across the street. Since the invention of social media and the smart phone, intelligence is no longer measured in IQ but in GCS (Glasgow Coma Scale). Score a 15 and you're a freakin' genius. I thought they just ran a simple absolute test now. the intelligence test either comes up positive or negative.
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Oct 12, 2013 11:31:39 GMT
I think it's gotten worse since the invention of smart phones. I can't count the number of times I've seen a pedestrian totally absorbed in their phone while wandering across the street. Which sadly is why signs like this are now appearing in NYC & other large US cities. ![](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-03u0oWFXU9k/Tm2DE1dyZPI/AAAAAAAAAiQ/zhtV8G6W9dM/s1600/Metropolitan-Etiquette-Authority_Pay_Attention_While_Walking.png) Not that they do notice them because they're too busy updating their Facebook pages to look up & see them! Though on the bright side if they are killed while crossing the road then they'll be up for a Darwin Award. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by the light works on Oct 12, 2013 13:40:42 GMT
Darwin Awards imply that they offed themselves in some unique and impressive way.
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Post by wvengineer on Oct 12, 2013 19:19:34 GMT
A couple road fool stores: A couple weeks ago, I am when a local in a big, red, H2 starts tailgating me. I start to slow down because I happen to be behind a school bus who is coming to a stop to drop off some kids. The genius decides that is the perfect time to not only pass me but also the bus that has it's stop signs out and flashing. I wonder if he knows that the ticket for running a school bus's stop signs is quite high. The traffic judges like to throw the book at those people. Overheard a traffic judge reading someone the riot act for that once. Anyway, he will soon because the buses here also have cameras to help out those traffic judges. Another incident happened yesterday not too far from where I live. A truck driver hit a scenic rail road train. He didn't get his truck broadsided trying to beat the train, no, he BROADSIDED THE TRAIN!!!!!! Knocked two passenger cars off the tracks. They took 67 people to the local hospital. They ran out of ambulances so they had to get a school bus to take the less critical people to the hospital. End result was 23 injured with 6 critical. Short of a mechanical failure, that takes a special kind of stupid to miss the drop arms, flashing lights, bells and the BIG HONKIN' RED TRAIN RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! For once, Darwin caught up on this genius. My wife knows the road where this happened and she says it is mostly flat and the road is strait, so there is no way not to see the train and still have plenty of time to react. times-news.com/local/x703136670/Logging-truck-slams-into-tourist-train
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 13, 2013 11:17:43 GMT
My Canadian family tell me its common place and without question that you MUST stop and render aid, no legal requirement needed there, its just something you do, even if doing so may over-load your own vehicle...
Its also why my Canadian cousins all drive something you could tow a house with, I am 6ft 2, but even I would need to use the step to climb up into the seat of their runabout trucks... And I have delivered commercial goods in smaller vans than their SUV 7+ seater....
It just par of life that they have skidoo's for winter, and Schools in winter have kids turn up on them The cars have summer and winter wheels, and a set of tyres that have tread you could hide a small animal in Every one of them could fit snow chains to wheels before their tenth birthday. They are all versed in "Survival" skills.
Its a different life.... completely......
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Post by the light works on Oct 13, 2013 13:40:54 GMT
My Canadian family tell me its common place and without question that you MUST stop and render aid, no legal requirement needed there, its just something you do, even if doing so may over-load your own vehicle... Its also why my Canadian cousins all drive something you could tow a house with, I am 6ft 2, but even I would need to use the step to climb up into the seat of their runabout trucks... And I have delivered commercial goods in smaller vans than their SUV 7+ seater.... It just par of life that they have skidoo's for winter, and Schools in winter have kids turn up on them The cars have summer and winter wheels, and a set of tyres that have tread you could hide a small animal in Every one of them could fit snow chains to wheels before their tenth birthday. They are all versed in "Survival" skills. Its a different life.... completely...... the oversized wheels and lift kits are a different matter from winter traction. that just gets you stuck further from help. to see what is truly required for that kind of environment, look at how the service rigs on Ice Road Truckers are equipped. a little bit of lift to make enough fender clearance for the chains (real chains, not those cable-roller things) and tires with lots of small soft lugs. the best have gone back to blending crushed walnut shell into their tread compound, because they've found it helps the tires stick to the ice like mittens to snowballs.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 15, 2013 8:21:42 GMT
The lifts on the trucks are standard, so are the wheels and tyres, all as supplied for a Nissan Nivara, Toyota Land-cruiser, and American versions of those.
The Toyota and Nissan are driven by the British born part of that section of family, because they cant get used to the America "Double the size and then add some more" sized vehicles?... They are all as supplied by the local garages, in "Winter spec", as none of them are super-mechanics, or even interested in modifications, "Just more to go wrong", they know enough to service and repair their own trucks. They also dont do the "Lets see how far off road this thing will go..."
One of them once got stuck up a 20ft drift at the back of the house and had to be towed out?... Nowt better than experience, is there?.. But the things they drive, well, the UK versions are tiny in comparison. But heck, half inch of show here and london grinds to a halt....
Manchester just gets on with it until you get a foot or two in the city centre. Scotland, they just put a jumper over the shirt and get on with it?... Canada, if you can see out, you can go out, just dig the front door out first will ya?... And yes, ny cousins tell me they have climbed out a window to dig the front door out. Saves the snow falling inside the door.....
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Post by ironhold on Oct 15, 2013 12:59:56 GMT
In my part of Texas, snow is such a rare occurrence that few locals know how to drive in it; they simply don't have the experience.
If you see someone in my part successfully driving in snow, odds are good that they're either a professional driver, emergency services, a tow truck operator, or have spent time in a region where snow actually happens on a regular basis. (I myself once drove in powder that was several inches thick in parts, at night, to deliver papers.)
Ironically enough, however, we have a lot of trucks, jeeps, vans, and SUVs around here, the kinds of vehicles that one would expect to have an easy time of it.
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Post by the light works on Oct 15, 2013 14:09:42 GMT
In my part of Texas, snow is such a rare occurrence that few locals know how to drive in it; they simply don't have the experience. If you see someone in my part successfully driving in snow, odds are good that they're either a professional driver, emergency services, a tow truck operator, or have spent time in a region where snow actually happens on a regular basis. (I myself once drove in powder that was several inches thick in parts, at night, to deliver papers.) Ironically enough, however, we have a lot of trucks, jeeps, vans, and SUVs around here, the kinds of vehicles that one would expect to have an easy time of it. in the People's Republic of Portland, the general population all makes the annual migration to Washington to have (illegal in Oregon) steel studded tires installed on opening day of studded tire season. (Oregon requires "lightweight" studs because that extra half ounce of weight from traditional studs makes them tear up the roads) then if they see a snowflake on the TeeVee or the temperature drops below 35(F), they all call in snowbound.
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Post by kharnynb on Oct 15, 2013 14:50:52 GMT
We have a bit less snow than The us lake district/canada, but rather a lot of ice for 5-6 months. No more special equipement than decent winter tyres though. Spiked nokia's for me personally.
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Post by the light works on Oct 15, 2013 14:55:08 GMT
We have a bit less snow than The us lake district/canada, but rather a lot of ice for 5-6 months. No more special equipement than decent winter tyres though. Spiked nokia's for me personally. when I was driving a front wheel drive, I had H-rated studless snow tires for winter. it handled great, though it still had trouble climbing hills. on a related note, I crossed paths with someone on another site who wanted people to tell him that all-season tires with 1/8"-1/4" of tread would be fine to get him through a Michigan winter.
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Post by kharnynb on Oct 15, 2013 14:59:43 GMT
Winter driving with all seasons, that's an immediate reckless driving charge here.
3 of those and bye bye license
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Post by the light works on Oct 15, 2013 15:51:57 GMT
Winter driving with all seasons, that's an immediate reckless driving charge here. 3 of those and bye bye license here, measurable snowfall are two words that you rarely hear together. snowdrifts are a once in a lifetime experience. this is the most snow I have ever seen accumulated:
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Post by User Unavailable on Oct 15, 2013 16:14:55 GMT
Honestly, if you know how to drive and don't drive places you shouldn't drive or your choice of vehicle shouldn't be driven, All Season tires are just fine for typical daily driving in urban, suburban and most rural areas during winter.
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Post by the light works on Oct 15, 2013 16:21:16 GMT
Honestly, if you know how to drive and don't drive places you shouldn't drive or your choice of vehicle shouldn't be driven, All Season tires are just fine for typical daily driving in urban, suburban and most rural areas during winter. sure - and if you know how to shoot, and don't shoot places you shouldn't then miniguns are just fine for rodent control. but there are some places where places you shouldn't drive without snow tires consist of everywhere but heated garages. Kharnyb lives in one of those places; I don't. however, they are still a smart idea where I am, if you drive early in the morning, because we do get just enough frost to cause occasional problems.
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Post by User Unavailable on Oct 15, 2013 16:44:47 GMT
Honestly, if you know how to drive and don't drive places you shouldn't drive or your choice of vehicle shouldn't be driven, All Season tires are just fine for typical daily driving in urban, suburban and most rural areas during winter. sure - and if you know how to shoot, and don't shoot places you shouldn't then miniguns are just fine for rodent control. but there are some places where places you shouldn't drive without snow tires consist of everywhere but heated garages. Kharnyb lives in one of those places; I don't. however, they are still a smart idea where I am, if you drive early in the morning, because we do get just enough frost to cause occasional problems. Again, if you know how to drive and don't drive places you shouldn't drive or your choice of vehicle shouldn't be driven, all Season tires are just fine for typical daily driving in urban, suburban and most rural areas. Kharnyb case wouldn't be typical All Season tire driving. Your case would be typical all season tire driving. Though, I did get a snicker at snow tires for Just enough frost to cause problems.... ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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