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Post by maxman on Oct 10, 2013 19:23:58 GMT
This was suggested on the old board, but I was wondering, is it possible to drive with a boot on a car, and is it possible to remove a boot with a jackhammer?
Specifically, will a car actually act like that when you try to start with the boot, will the boot tear the fender, and does drivetrain have any effect?
I think it might do that if the car is front wheel drive, but if it were rear wheel drive, the front wheel would just drag.
Unfortunately, the only clip of the scene I could find is one filmed off a television using a potato.
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Post by the light works on Oct 11, 2013 14:56:17 GMT
boots are specifically designed to immobilize the car, and unless the parking enforcement officer is under an ID-10-T clause, is placed on the drive wheel.
I don't think the car would have enough horsepower to damage its own sheet metal enough to drive off with the boot.
as for the jackhammer, it depends on how long you have. I have cut through rebar with a rotohammer and core drill, but I was quite literally leaning on the rotohammer for 2 hours boring that particular hole.
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Post by wvengineer on Oct 13, 2013 19:20:51 GMT
The boots that I have see, in the end, the thing hold thing them on is little more than a heavy padlock. There are various heavy duty screws that hold the boot to the tire, but those screws are held in position by a padlock. That wouldn't be too hard to knock off with a jack hammer, then you would have to disassemble the boot. Heck, you could probably take it off with a die grinder or bolt cutters.
There are probably other designs out there are are a bit more secure.
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Post by the light works on Oct 13, 2013 23:03:02 GMT
The boots that I have see, in the end, the thing hold thing them on is little more than a heavy padlock. There are various heavy duty screws that hold the boot to the tire, but those screws are held in position by a padlock. That wouldn't be too hard to knock off with a jack hammer, then you would have to disassemble the boot. Heck, you could probably take it off with a die grinder or bolt cutters. There are probably other designs out there are are a bit more secure. It usually takes a specific wrench to actually remove the boot. the padlock slows down anyone who has gone to the trouble of getting the wrench. |
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 24, 2013 8:57:18 GMT
Dependant on type of boot, they are nuisance to full immobility.
I have seen chains I could cut through with a cordless jigsaw, to full clamps...
Driving with one on (Presuming the wheel will turn) is going to damage tyres and suspension.
It USED to be illegal to damage one.... no so any more.....
It is not illegal to remove one if you can do so without damaging it.
I have seen one removed by simply deflating the tyre.....
He had a foot-pump in the boot anyway....
The law has changed... I now have a set of Bolt Cutters, if anyone does try to immobilise the car, I will remove it.
But then again, I wouldnt be parking anywhere I would get that anyway....
Well, not to my knowledge.
The law has changed, if signs are illegible or not in plain sight, they can be challenged.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 24, 2013 9:08:59 GMT
By the way, friend of mine got clamped illegally.
He invited them to retrieve the clamp....
He was clamped in Leeds, he called another friend who has a tow truck, and had the car towed back home to Manchester.
He gave the clamping company 24 hrs to remove the clamp....
They didnt turn up.
At which point he was at liberty to remove the clamp with force.
Ok, so, he paid the tow truck for his work, "Mates rates", but made it worth his while, it inconvenienced him, and it cost him time getting home....
But not paying the clamping company?... priceless....
The clamp, never retrieved, is now a "Trophy".....
And as it turns out, actually having the vehicle towed away by yourself is NOT illegal.....
Inconveniencing the clamping company by moving the vehicle is not illegal.
As long as you give them reasonable access to the vehicle to remove their property, you break no laws.
NOT paying, is not illegal.
Inviting them to remove their property at their own cost is not illegal.
Giving them a reasonable time to remove their property after which it will be removed (By you) is not illegal.
As long as paying any parking ticket issued by local authorities that has been issued legally is done, you break no laws.
Its more about knowing how not to break the law than it is what you are actually doing to not pay....
And if the clamping company have broken any laws or rules by clamping you, "Open season"....
By the way, having a large two foot triangle of bright yellow painted cardboard can be quite fun in larger cities... especially if you lean it against the wheel of some twit who has parked badly in a way that inconveniences others.
The clamps issued by many city authorities are triangular and yellow.
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Post by the light works on Oct 28, 2013 14:42:55 GMT
when I was in Los Angeles, I found out - I forget exactly how, but tertiary to any actual problems; that they had a law in place that specified any tow company towing on behalf of parking enforcement was bound to release the car at no charge on demand - up to the point they were actually driving off with it. they didn't bother with boots. if they cited, it was because the car was not supposed to be there, and they would simply make the car not be there.
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