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Post by silverdragon on Feb 2, 2014 13:30:56 GMT
American Cuisine.... I just bought a box of "American style" beef burgers.... 100% Beef. BRITISH beef....
So what is American about them?.... I am trying to work that one out.
Anyway, I bought them because they are a reputable make and 100% beef..... The only ones in a "Dont take the pizza" price range that were 100% beef, without added red onion, Barbecue sauce, cracked black pepper and lemon grass, tree hugging "Organic" cows and the rest.....
I have to ask, Cows eat Grass. Just how do you get an Organic cow against a non-organic cow?... I ask because if its true that Cows are beeing fed on NON-Organic material, I wanna know what that is?.... I just cant see Cows chowing down on Tofu, or Steak and chips, or.... [whatever?>>]
Anyway, I digress, what is American style about 100% nothing else added BRITISH beef..... Against say a similar product that is exactly the same cow in a different box?.....
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Post by the light works on Feb 2, 2014 15:20:57 GMT
Ketchup originated in Europe - where it can be made from any fruit - only in America must you make it out of tomatoes for it to legally be labeled as ketchup.
as for Salsa - it directly translates as "sauce" the most common interpretation is actually salsa picante - literally spicy sauce.
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Post by the light works on Feb 2, 2014 15:32:01 GMT
American Cuisine.... I just bought a box of "American style" beef burgers.... 100% Beef. BRITISH beef.... So what is American about them?.... I am trying to work that one out. Anyway, I bought them because they are a reputable make and 100% beef..... The only ones in a "Dont take the pizza" price range that were 100% beef, without added red onion, Barbecue sauce, cracked black pepper and lemon grass, tree hugging "Organic" cows and the rest..... I have to ask, Cows eat Grass. Just how do you get an Organic cow against a non-organic cow?... I ask because if its true that Cows are beeing fed on NON-Organic material, I wanna know what that is?.... I just cant see Cows chowing down on Tofu, or Steak and chips, or.... [whatever?>>] Anyway, I digress, what is American style about 100% nothing else added BRITISH beef..... Against say a similar product that is exactly the same cow in a different box?..... I would imagine "american style" refers to the way they are ground and compressed. as for the 100% organic - consider that the average factory farm feeds their cattle as much medicine and supplements as they feed corn - and they may never see a blade of grass in their lives.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Feb 2, 2014 15:42:15 GMT
American Cuisine.... I just bought a box of "American style" beef burgers.... 100% Beef. BRITISH beef.... So what is American about them?.... I am trying to work that one out. Anyway, I bought them because they are a reputable make and 100% beef..... The only ones in a "Dont take the pizza" price range that were 100% beef, without added red onion, Barbecue sauce, cracked black pepper and lemon grass, tree hugging "Organic" cows and the rest..... I have to ask, Cows eat Grass. Just how do you get an Organic cow against a non-organic cow?... I ask because if its true that Cows are beeing fed on NON-Organic material, I wanna know what that is?.... I just cant see Cows chowing down on Tofu, or Steak and chips, or.... [whatever?>>] Anyway, I digress, what is American style about 100% nothing else added BRITISH beef..... Against say a similar product that is exactly the same cow in a different box?..... Technically, all burgers can be said to be 'American-style' since it was invented in the US. Specifically, Louis' Lunch in New Haven, CT (there's a guy in Wisconsin who tries to muscle into the creation equation, but disappears when challenged). Also, if you ever got a chance to go to Louis', they have one rule: No ketchup. Organic cow = non-GMO, non-Growth hormones, only field grass.
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Post by Lokifan on Feb 2, 2014 17:59:25 GMT
Ketchup originated in Europe - where it can be made from any fruit - only in America must you make it out of tomatoes for it to legally be labeled as ketchup. as for Salsa - it directly translates as "sauce" the most common interpretation is actually salsa picante - literally spicy sauce. The origin of Ketchup is debatable. More info here.According to that article, the earliest reference in the OED is to "Catchup: a high East-India Sauce" back in the 1600s. And there are words in Chinese that sound very similar to "ketchup". And Salsa, as I said, has a lot of varieties and recipes, although I agree salsa picante is probably the most common. But there are fruit salsas, pico de gallo, chipotle salsa, tomatillo salsa, salsa verde--and many more. I'm just saying that not all salsas are spicy--there is a greater variety than the OP suggested. Now you're making me hungry for Mexican food. Rain! Blessed rain this morning. Not much, but every drop helps.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 2, 2014 23:03:52 GMT
Didn't realize you guys were so serious about your Mexican food that you couldn't take a joke I know there's a lot more to Mexican food than pancakes with stuffing. But you have to admit, the most popular Mexican dishes - the fast food ones that have probably been altered so much that they have less to do with Mexico than polar bears - are mainly the ones with some sort of pancake and some sort of filling. Burritos, fajitas, tortillas, tacos and so on. I know the southern states in the US have more to choose from, seeing as Mexico is a lot closer to you guys, but for the rest of us, that's what we're told is Mexican food. I actually once had this amazing Mexican soup made from ox tail, jalapeƱos, red peppers and onions. I never did find out what it was called.
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Post by the light works on Feb 2, 2014 23:19:21 GMT
Ketchup originated in Europe - where it can be made from any fruit - only in America must you make it out of tomatoes for it to legally be labeled as ketchup. as for Salsa - it directly translates as "sauce" the most common interpretation is actually salsa picante - literally spicy sauce. The origin of Ketchup is debatable. More info here.According to that article, the earliest reference in the OED is to "Catchup: a high East-India Sauce" back in the 1600s. And there are words in Chinese that sound very similar to "ketchup". And Salsa, as I said, has a lot of varieties and recipes, although I agree salsa picante is probably the most common. But there are fruit salsas, pico de gallo, chipotle salsa, tomatillo salsa, salsa verde--and many more. I'm just saying that not all salsas are spicy--there is a greater variety than the OP suggested. Now you're making me hungry for Mexican food. Rain! Blessed rain this morning. Not much, but every drop helps. I'm having authentic Mexican style tacos today - meat that is borderline on too well aged, heavily seasoned to mask that.
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Post by the light works on Feb 2, 2014 23:20:47 GMT
Didn't realize you guys were so serious about your Mexican food that you couldn't take a joke I know there's a lot more to Mexican food than pancakes with stuffing. But you have to admit, the most popular Mexican dishes - the fast food ones that have probably been altered so much that they have less to do with Mexico than polar bears - are mainly the ones with some sort of pancake and some sort of filling. Burritos, fajitas, tortillas, tacos and so on. I know the southern states in the US have more to choose from, seeing as Mexico is a lot closer to you guys, but for the rest of us, that's what we're told is Mexican food. I actually once had this amazing Mexican soup made from ox tail, jalapeƱos, red peppers and onions. I never did find out what it was called. we can take a joke, we just got interested in the details. by my understanding, a Mexican who has no contact with the US hears "burrito" as a small donkey, rather than a food product.
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Post by Lokifan on Feb 3, 2014 4:50:51 GMT
Yup. It's a fun subject (and probably deserves its own thread). I responded because it's hard to tell jokes on the internet from honest opinions, sometimes. Especially when I've had to make these explanations to others who did hold those identical opinions on Mexican cuisine. Some were older members of my family (Minnesota doesn't appear to have a lot of Mexican food ) while others were from Thailand, India, and Holland. Heck, I remember the first time I had good Mexican food. It was a revelation. Where I live, just about every mini mall has a Mexican restaurant that varies in quality from fine dining to hole-in-the-wall or catering trucks. In fact, a few of the catering trucks are highly regarded (and massively popular). They've even gotten favorably reviewed by the food editors in the local papers. The soup sounds like Oxtail Soup. I don't remember having it myself, but I've had a similar Chinese version. It's probably going to hit the low 40s tonight. The showers we had today weren't really much, but it was good to see.
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Post by the light works on Feb 3, 2014 5:00:42 GMT
I had non-anglicized mexican food while I was in California. It was a bit of a revelation, too. then I shared lunches with a few of the mexican carpenters on projects, too.
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Post by wvengineer on Feb 3, 2014 13:46:14 GMT
Looks like today will be another snow day. Got 6+ inches on the ground overnight and they are calling for a few more by noon. Looks like I'll be firing up the snowblower today.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Feb 3, 2014 13:52:00 GMT
Snow out here in CT also. The wet, heavy kind, which means the snowblower is gonna fight me when I take it out later...
All those people who flew in to go to the Super Bowl will not be getting anywhere close to home anytime soon. As of 7:00 this morning, thousands of flights were all ready delayed or cancelled in CT/NY/NJ/PA.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 3, 2014 14:07:53 GMT
Yup. It's a fun subject (and probably deserves its own thread). I responded because it's hard to tell jokes on the internet from honest opinions, sometimes. Especially when I've had to make these explanations to others who did hold those identical opinions on Mexican cuisine. Some were older members of my family (Minnesota doesn't appear to have a lot of Mexican food ) while others were from Thailand, India, and Holland. Heck, I remember the first time I had good Mexican food. It was a revelation. Where I live, just about every mini mall has a Mexican restaurant that varies in quality from fine dining to hole-in-the-wall or catering trucks. In fact, a few of the catering trucks are highly regarded (and massively popular). They've even gotten favorably reviewed by the food editors in the local papers. The soup sounds like Oxtail Soup. I don't remember having it myself, but I've had a similar Chinese version. It's probably going to hit the low 40s tonight. The showers we had today weren't really much, but it was good to see. Doesn't look like the one I had. There were no beans in it. Looks good though Looks like we're dodging the big snowfall this year. We had about 3-4 inches last week, but it's all melting away now. I can see my lawn again
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 3, 2014 14:21:04 GMT
We got 5 more inches on Saturday and they are saying more for tomorrow. They've given up telling us how much. Now all they say is "several inches" or "substantial accumulation." The piles at the end of the driveway are now too high to lob snow over by hand. Even the snow blower is having problems clearing them. And my blower is a substantial 2-stage machine.
If this keeps up, I'm thinking of getting a set of these.
Wonder if they come with the MP-3 music file.
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Post by the light works on Feb 3, 2014 14:38:37 GMT
we've discussed getting something like that for our water rescue truck - but they are not so good on pavement.
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 3, 2014 14:51:44 GMT
we've discussed getting something like that for our water rescue truck - but they are not so good on pavement. I don't think they would be so good on water either.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Feb 3, 2014 14:57:24 GMT
The Track N Go looks like an easy-on/easy-off system as opposed to other all-track systems which require full axle swaps.
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Post by the light works on Feb 3, 2014 14:59:17 GMT
we've discussed getting something like that for our water rescue truck - but they are not so good on pavement. I don't think they would be so good on water either. its not supposed to actually drive ON the water... approved: Attachment DeletedNot Approved: Attachment Deletedhere is what makes it so heavy:
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 3, 2014 15:11:14 GMT
I don't think they would be so good on water either. its not supposed to actually drive ON the water... approved: Not Approved: here is what makes it so heavy: It would probably be great on sand. It has such a large footprint. Some of those track systems have footprints that aren't much bigger than the tires they replace. They may give you more traction, but not necessarily more support. As for dry pavement. How far is your firehouse from the beach?
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Post by the light works on Feb 3, 2014 15:18:50 GMT
its not supposed to actually drive ON the water... approved: Not Approved: here is what makes it so heavy: It would probably be great on sand. It has such a large footprint. Some of those track systems have footprints that aren't much bigger than the tires they replace. They may give you more traction, but not necessarily more support. As for dry pavement. How far is your firehouse from the beach? It ranges from a half mile to 30 miles depending on the call. we're the top surf rescue team, so the neighbors occasionally call for us as well. but town's 5 miles long, and that rig often goes to either end for calls.
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