Clothes make the person?

Lets get a little urban legend here, (This is a Myth site isnt it?.. ...)
"Back in the day", when knights were knights, and sheep were worried, it was the duty of every English freeman to go practise archery on the village green fort one hour or so every Sunday after church.
It was even Law at one point.
Despite the rumours, no, I do not remember being made to practise archery.

So why dont we do that any more?...

Things change.

It was the duty of all in the village to inspect the waterway as they passed for every mill that had a waterwheel, and to pas on any sign of any blockage top the mill owners.....
Things change.

It was the DUTY of all English persons to donate a little something every Sunday to the Church to pass out amongst the needy and the poor....

Then we invented your 'Welfare State', or Social Security as we call it in England.

Quite simply, we have Social Security, that takes contributions via Taxes, from ALL religions, all working people, and in a non-racist way, makes sure that the Catholics poor get no more no less as the C-Of-E poor.

[Yes, people used to change religions dependant on which church door they stood outside with the begging bowls.
They had Dole scroungers even then back in those days....]

Heck, its soooo good even I support this idea...

Now for the Church to have its precious idea stolen and used by the State, that was because the bloody thieving Monks took too much of a cut from the poor box?... that can not be proven or disproved?.. look at the "Wealth" of the Church, where did they get it all from whilst all around were not doing so good?..., but the C-Of-E was set up because a certain king decided HE was in charge round here and not the Church... the church was getting a little too omnipotent. (all powerful..)

Religion causes enough arguments, I have investigated why, and its all that darn black cat in a dark room thing.
One person says one way, another says another, but when we start getting to ONE person starting out with a personal agenda, we have Tyranny.

In the case of that church, that preacher had not started working there, how does he know the problems of the neighbourhood?...

Someone who starts in a "Shock and awe" way is most often about to shake the tree.
And that is trouble.

Be thankful you have an audience.
Notice that church participation is dropping?...
Parishioners have a choice, Family is nothing at all to be drawn a likeness to.
Saying "You will all go to hell" gets laughter from my Kids....
For good reason.[/quote]

And that is a fine description of the problems the modern church is facing. most of the more hidebound clergy are still operating under the delusion that they are part of an elite privileged society and people are still fixated on what happens after they die. the truth of the matter is that of the people you might cross paths with on any given day, their biggest concern is tomorrow; and until Tomorrow is taken care of, they couldn't give a rat's patootie about bye-and-bye. the church of the time when welfare was created, was primarily interested in maintaining the power and authority of the church; and for every pastor who has allegedly arrived dressed as a homeless bum, there is a church board who has told a pastor he needs to focus less on sales and more on customer service.

addendum: here, social security is a federally mandated pension, you pay taxes to it while you are working, and after retirement, or upon the determination that you are no longer able to work, you receive benefits back from it. both SS and Unemployment are technically not dole programs, but government supervised responsibility. Welfare is government supervised charity.

That actually more or less echo's what I said?....
Dont pay taxes equals too much wealth that was needed elsewhere, wanting a divorce equates to a problem with a church telling 'Enery he cant do that?....

Plus that want the only reason 'Enery decided to disobey Rome and the Vatican.
Yes it happened at the same time, but 'Enery was under "Orders" for certain things in the same way europe tried to re-write British law these days....
It all went Base-over-apex on the Royal marriage, one which 'Enery believed he had been forced into anyway.
By them.




Church Allegiance became political Royalty tennis, with One king going C-of-E, His daughter going Catholic, next in line C-of-E, then back again to a confusing level, and at that time, where the Monarch went, we ALL went... or were supposed to anyway...
Hence Priests of several denominations knew the inside of a Hidey Hole.



Same of ANY church.
Only Winners write history?....

Great Libraries could be burnt down on the whim of a King.