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Post by the light works on Jul 3, 2015 0:46:25 GMT
the lawnmower myth comes from the old boards. I recall answering it a few dozen times.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 3, 2015 6:39:33 GMT
the lawnmower myth comes from the old boards. I recall answering it a few dozen times. Say what now?... where did that come from TLW.... its kind of not following the elephant? (As in I am kind of lost on your reference there...)
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 3, 2015 6:49:24 GMT
It has the signifier "R", Recon, its high altitude, so, no, its not "tough", its just higher than many missiles will reach with any effect, and fast out of there if it gets going nasty. The "Dragon Lady" as I think it was called, was an ULTRA high reconnaissance, as in, so high, many Radar systeems wouldnt be looking "up there" for anything.
So I wonder what they will get up to on that?...
AHHHH... right, I get TLW's reference point now... And no, its not that deadly... I have had a stone hit my ankle from a Hover-Mower, yeah, hell, it hurt like heck, but it didnt break my skin, so I suspect unless you ramp it up, no lawnmower blade will be that deadly?.. after all, what you cutting there?.. its just grass, and the occasional bit of turf.
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 3, 2015 7:45:26 GMT
AHHHH... right, I get TLW's reference point now... And no, its not that deadly... I have had a stone hit my ankle from a Hover-Mower, yeah, hell, it hurt like heck, but it didnt break my skin, so I suspect unless you ramp it up, no lawnmower blade will be that deadly?.. after all, what you cutting there?.. its just grass, and the occasional bit of turf. You know it, I know it, most other people who have ever owned a lawn mower know it, but replicating the results of the myth will make some great TV I see lawn mower mayhem in in our foreseeable future
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Post by the light works on Jul 3, 2015 14:41:38 GMT
It has the signifier "R", Recon, its high altitude, so, no, its not "tough", its just higher than many missiles will reach with any effect, and fast out of there if it gets going nasty. The "Dragon Lady" as I think it was called, was an ULTRA high reconnaissance, as in, so high, many Radar systeems wouldnt be looking "up there" for anything. So I wonder what they will get up to on that?... AHHHH... right, I get TLW's reference point now... And no, its not that deadly... I have had a stone hit my ankle from a Hover-Mower, yeah, hell, it hurt like heck, but it didnt break my skin, so I suspect unless you ramp it up, no lawnmower blade will be that deadly?.. after all, what you cutting there?.. its just grass, and the occasional bit of turf. I think the full phrase on the U-2 was "is it that tough to fly?"
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 4, 2015 5:17:25 GMT
You put on a space suit, strap on the rocket, and aim up.......
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 4, 2015 13:33:30 GMT
Yeah, it wasn't so much the flying part that was hard as it was the landing part from what I've heard.
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Post by the light works on Jul 4, 2015 14:25:28 GMT
Yeah, it wasn't so much the flying part that was hard as it was the landing part from what I've heard. landing is easy. landing so you can reuse the airplane is hard. but is this the U2 or the SR-71 you guys are thinking of? the U2 is big and gangly and flies high. the SR-71 goes faster than s***
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 8, 2015 20:45:16 GMT
A sneak-peek of some of the things has been posted on Discovery; www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/photos/summer-sneak-peek/The U2 myth is that it is hard to fly and hard to land. I do remember hearing that the U2's wide wings produce a ground effect that makes it very difficult to land, as the aircraft basically doesn't want to. Also included are Star Wars myths*, specifically the ability to dodge stormtrooper shots. 'Blown out of the water' (which is the clip we've seen), movie assassin myths, distracted driving and driving backwards. If playing video games could give you real world skills (this is a viewer special and certainly something that I recall some idiot on Discovery claiming in regards to combat skills) (*This episode was filmed a year ago as Adam mentioned they were filming/about to film this at Com-Con last year.)
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Post by the light works on Jul 9, 2015 1:42:47 GMT
A sneak-peek of some of the things has been posted on Discovery; www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/photos/summer-sneak-peek/The U2 myth is that it is hard to fly and hard to land. I do remember hearing that the U2's wide wings produce a ground effect that makes it very difficult to land, as the aircraft basically doesn't want to. Also included are Star Wars myths*, specifically the ability to dodge stormtrooper shots. 'Blown out of the water' (which is the clip we've seen), movie assassin myths, distracted driving and driving backwards. If playing video games could give you real world skills (this is a viewer special and certainly something that I recall some idiot on Discovery claiming in regards to combat skills) (*This episode was filmed a year ago as Adam mentioned they were filming/about to film this at Com-Con last year.) I remember LOTS of idiots claiming video game skills translate to real life.
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 9, 2015 4:31:05 GMT
Hasn't SD repeatedly asked for a test of whether video game driving could possibly teach someone to drive an actual car?
Isn't hands-free vs. hand held phone driving also something we've discussed here?
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 9, 2015 5:58:04 GMT
Hasn't SD repeatedly asked for a test of whether video game driving could possibly teach someone to drive an actual car? Isn't hands-free vs. hand held phone driving also something we've discussed here? Yes I have, and I have stated that no you cant. Video driving is "Drive by wire", and maybe yes with force feedback you get some "feel", but learning what the car reacts to is part of driving. For Example, Clutch and Brake control cannot be learnt via video. If you have a few thousands to spare, maybe you can buy a simulator, which is not exactly video game, its serious kit. There is a difference.
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 9, 2015 5:59:16 GMT
Hasn't SD repeatedly asked for a test of whether video game driving could possibly teach someone to drive an actual car? Isn't hands-free vs. hand held phone driving also something we've discussed here? Yes I have, and I have stated that no you cant. Video driving is "Drive by wire", and maybe yes with force feedback you get some "feel", but learning what the car reacts to is part of driving. For Example, Clutch and Brake control cannot be learnt via video. If you have a few thousands to spare, maybe you can buy a simulator, which is not exactly video game, its serious kit. There is a difference. Agreed.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 9, 2015 6:19:24 GMT
Minor "get your head on straight" for those who believe video driving is as easy as real life....
Thing is, I can video-drive, I have a membership of the 1% club in Forza, as in, if you look at the top 1% of lap times worldwide for some of the circuits, you will find my screen name in there somewhere. I cant drive that fast in real life. Nowhere close. Because I know there is no reset in real life.....
Game On. Its JUST a game.
And lap times on a real life race track are bloody uncomfortable..... You think the suspension keeps you as comfortable as sitting in your favourite arm chair?... Try sitting on a plastic school chair for half an hour being thrown all over the place whilst driving on a road circuit that has more bumps in it that a bad case of chicken-pox. That is close to the sensations of sitting in a race chair that is low on stuffing because you need to be strapped in tight... The straps. They stop you moving. If I wanted to change the channel on my own car radio with a proper race harness on, I would need to undo the straps, as they would prevent me leaning that far.... They are so tight they are uncomfortable. And having stuffing in the seat works against the straps, so you dont get much of that. The noise. Overt the engine you will hear the sound of tortured rubber, bits of road flying up and hitting the base of the car, the suspension bottoming out, the car actually scraping over some of the bumps, .....
The sensation of speed.... Most people when sitting alongside a race driver will be scared. If you aint, there is something wrong with you. And yet you think because you can do the same lap time on some video game you are as good as that driver?... Awae hame....
You will be thrown about harder than any roller-coaster you have ever experienced, its much worse than you think, you may scream, but, you will also be aware that the driver is on the edge of control, ... And then, when you finish, he will tell you you were never in any danger, as he cuts 5 to 10% off the lap time when he has someone on board for safety reasons.
And then its your turn....
You will drive to the limit of your abilities, and be half-again over the time of the pro's race time, at best. You may even spin out. The lucky ones do. Because that shows them what can go wrong..... And that is scary.
But its one hell of an adrenalin rush.
Why did I do it then?.. Because I need to know I am alive. I need to know I CAN drive like that. And it also took the boy racer out of me, and took it to the track, so now, if I need to drive like a twit, I can take it to the track.... but I dont do that on the road.
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Post by the light works on Jul 9, 2015 8:54:02 GMT
here, they have a business called "malibu grand prix" where they put you in a miniature car powered by a snowmobile engine, and let you drive like a twit for a very reasonable price.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 9, 2015 8:54:52 GMT
Keep in mind that a lot of the people claiming you can learn to drive cars by playing video games are American. In the US automatic transmissions are far more common than manual ones, so clutch and gear change isn't something they think about and in many cases might not be something they ever have to use.
You can get steering wheels and pedal controllers for gaming, MB have in fact used these as the basis for their newer RC car control rigs. Coupled with automatic gears I can see that you might be able to pick up enough to be able to drive a car. Not well and certainly not safety of course. It seems however that they might not be looking at that and be doing something involving firearms.
A quick and minor correction to something I wrote above. Adam revealed that they were filming or were about to film a second Star Wars special at Com Con last year, not that they were filming something to do with Storm troopers specifically.
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Post by Antigone68104 on Jul 9, 2015 15:00:22 GMT
The lawnmower test is something they've had in the can for some time as well -- I know I saw some mini-myth footage on the Discovery site several months ago.
As I recall, "you didn't test hands-free" was a common complaint after the cell phone vs drunk driving episode.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 11, 2015 23:26:49 GMT
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Post by GTCGreg on Jul 11, 2015 23:46:08 GMT
Looks like some interesting shows coming up.
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 12, 2015 0:35:10 GMT
I can't wait to see that U2 episode!
I'm SO jealous of Adam right now! What a view!!!
He's about as close to being in space as you can possibly be without actually leaving the atmosphere!
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