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Post by mrfatso on Apr 13, 2019 2:42:48 GMT
Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker let the speculation begin. they haven't retconned Rey out of it. Lando IS seen driving the Falcon. Leia at least makes a cameo, and Luke's voice is in the trailer. They have announced that Star Wars movies will go on hiatus for a while after episode 9. The retconning that I think they will do is to suggest that Rey is not just the daughter of insignificant traders, that Snoke lied to her. Also at the end Emperor Palpatine has a quick chuckle.
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Post by the light works on Apr 13, 2019 3:33:23 GMT
Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker let the speculation begin. they haven't retconned Rey out of it. Lando IS seen driving the Falcon. Leia at least makes a cameo, and Luke's voice is in the trailer. They have announced that Star Wars movies will go on hiatus for a while after episode 9. The retconning that I think they will do is to suggest that Rey is not just the daughter of insignificant traders, that Snoke lied to her. Also at the end Emperor Palpatine has a quick chuckle. yeah, people are suggesting maybe Palpatine has a clone.
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Post by GTCGreg on Apr 13, 2019 13:37:37 GMT
I never cared for “on going saga“ movies, especially when the writers seem to just throw darts at a timeline.
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Post by the light works on Apr 13, 2019 14:17:51 GMT
I never cared for “on going saga“ movies, especially when the writers seem to just throw darts at a timeline. years ago, DC comics had a comedy character named "Johnni DC, Continuity Cop" Lucasfilm certainly could have used her services.
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Post by wvengineer on Apr 13, 2019 17:58:02 GMT
After watching Force Awakens and Rogue 1, I completely lost all interest in the new Star Wars. I have not seen Solo or whatever they called Episode 8 and have no plans to. Right now, I have no plans to put any of my money into the series for the foreseeable future. Color me completely uninterested.
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Post by ironhold on Apr 13, 2019 20:19:57 GMT
After watching Force Awakens and Rogue 1, I completely lost all interest in the new Star Wars. I have not seen Solo or whatever they called Episode 8 and have no plans to. Right now, I have no plans to put any of my money into the series for the foreseeable future. Color me completely uninterested. I have relatives who want to see them, so as long as they're paying I can do reviews on them. Otherwise, it'd be a hard pass for me as well.
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Post by the light works on Apr 13, 2019 23:30:04 GMT
After watching Force Awakens and Rogue 1, I completely lost all interest in the new Star Wars. I have not seen Solo or whatever they called Episode 8 and have no plans to. Right now, I have no plans to put any of my money into the series for the foreseeable future. Color me completely uninterested. for my part, Solo was kind of a letdown. I liked force awakens and Rogue 1, though. The last Jedi - there were "artistic" choices I wouldn't have made - but I felt that overall, it told a story that was presumably necessary to set up episode IX.
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Post by Cybermortis on Apr 13, 2019 23:36:21 GMT
After watching Force Awakens and Rogue 1, I completely lost all interest in the new Star Wars. I have not seen Solo or whatever they called Episode 8 and have no plans to. Right now, I have no plans to put any of my money into the series for the foreseeable future. Color me completely uninterested. Awakens; Fun until you realize it was a soulless rehash of Episode IV with elements of Episode VI and turned Han Solo into a dead-beat dad. It did it's job at making a hell of a lot of money and getting people to talk about Star Wars with anticipation for the future. Rogue One; Actually a good film, if one that missed out on a lot of possibilities moving forward. It's box office performance wasn't brilliant, but this probably has more to do with it not being something most people would go back to see again. The Last Jedi; A film in which they carefully took a look at the franchise, the stories, the plans JJ had set up for the rest of the franchise, the characters and logic and threw them into a toilet and crapped all over them. This was followed by crapping on and name calling anyone who said it wasn't the best film they had ever seen. Box office performance was somewhat better than Rogue One, although higher production costs mean it actually made less money, and 60% lower than Awakens. Solo; A film no one wanted, no one asked for and which they decided to allow the writer and one of the actors to start screeching about a characters sexuality a week before release; Presumably because they hadn't virtue signaled enough for them to get their 'Woke' points for the month. The film tanked beyond belief, costing Lucasfilm something in the region of $200 million. Episode IX; A film not that many seem all that interested in, but will probably pull in numbers somewhere between Last Jedi and Awakens. If it does worse than Last Jedi....
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Post by the light works on Apr 14, 2019 0:22:05 GMT
After watching Force Awakens and Rogue 1, I completely lost all interest in the new Star Wars. I have not seen Solo or whatever they called Episode 8 and have no plans to. Right now, I have no plans to put any of my money into the series for the foreseeable future. Color me completely uninterested. Awakens; Fun until you realize it was a soulless rehash of Episode IV with elements of Episode VI and turned Han Solo into a dead-beat dad. It did it's job at making a hell of a lot of money and getting people to talk about Star Wars with anticipation for the future. Rogue One; Actually a good film, if one that missed out on a lot of possibilities moving forward. It's box office performance wasn't brilliant, but this probably has more to do with it not being something most people would go back to see again. The Last Jedi; A film in which they carefully took a look at the franchise, the stories, the plans JJ had set up for the rest of the franchise, the characters and logic and threw them into a toilet and crapped all over them. This was followed by crapping on and name calling anyone who said it wasn't the best film they had ever seen. Box office performance was somewhat better than Rogue One, although higher production costs mean it actually made less money, and 60% lower than Awakens. Solo; A film no one wanted, no one asked for and which they decided to allow the writer and one of the actors to start screeching about a characters sexuality a week before release; Presumably because they hadn't virtue signaled enough for them to get their 'Woke' points for the month. The film tanked beyond belief, costing Lucasfilm something in the region of $200 million. Episode IX; A film not that many seem all that interested in, but will probably pull in numbers somewhere between Last Jedi and Awakens. If it does worse than Last Jedi.... a lot of people wanted a movie - or even a trilogy about Han Solo's youth - just not THAT film. as I said on rotten tomatoes, "I liked the books, better."
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Post by wvengineer on May 13, 2019 22:37:46 GMT
Youtube Channel FixItInPost has created a revamped version of Scene 38 in SW A New Hope. The Iconic showdown between Darth Vader and Obi Wan Konobi.
It IS Epic! Way better than the original and better than the Prequel Trilogy.
The original was pretty tame due to limits of film making tech of the day. However it has some tech issues that have never been fixed, even with the many "upgrades" to the film over the years.
I will say that this revamp does introduce some continuity errors with the story telling.
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Post by Cybermortis on May 14, 2019 21:02:26 GMT
It has been confirmed by Bob Iger that the next batch of Star Wars films will be written/produced by Benioff and Weiss, not Ryan Johnson. This is hardly surprising as Johnson's habit of smugly insulting anyone who doesn't worship his vision, dividing the fanbase and lack of success relative to the film he was following on from wouldn't exactly recommend him at a time the franchise is all but dead.
What *might* be taken from this is;
Johnson is either gone from Lucasfilm (although technically he was a freelancer rather than an employee) or has been pushed into a dark corner where it is hoped he will vanish.
If Johnson IS still working on a trilogy it would end up on Disney+ not the big screen. My money (if I had any) would be that even if he is still working on something it will never get filmed. The next two musings explain why.
Kennedy is in charge of Lucasfilm in name only, with all business and creative decisions being made by others.
The first of the 'new' films would be coming out at the same time Kennedy's contract ends. Assuming she doesn't 'retire' earlier than that. This in turn makes it unlikely that that contract will be extended further.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jun 25, 2019 16:48:53 GMT
Given the less than positive reaction to the last season of Game of Thrones, and that even most of the actors seem embarrassed to have been part of it. Well Disney seems to once again be looking at a black pit filled with excrement at the bottom of which lies Star Wars.
Benioff and Weiss have been heavily criticized for the abysmal writing and ignoring George Martin, himself an experienced screen writer, in how many seasons it would take to do the story justice.
Now they are meant to be writing the next Star Wars Trilogy with serious questions being asked as to how good they actually are when they have to think for themselves and don't have an existing story to adapt.
So once again it looks like Disney has somehow managed to hire someone for an important role/position who starts off by alienating a chunk of the audience. At least this time you can't really say that Disney should have known better.
The question now is if Lucasfilm will continue to move forward with B&W's trilogy, knowing that a huge number of people will refuse to watch anything they produce from now on. Or if they quietly let the two of them go and look to find a new writer. That of course is assuming they can find any half decent writers who want anything to do with that MUST be viewed as a toxic, dying franchise.
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Post by the light works on Jun 25, 2019 17:15:16 GMT
Given the less than positive reaction to the last season of Game of Thrones, and that even most of the actors seem embarrassed to have been part of it. Well Disney seems to once again be looking at a black pit filled with excrement at the bottom of which lies Star Wars. Benioff and Weiss have been heavily criticized for the abysmal writing and ignoring George Martin, himself an experienced screen writer, in how many seasons it would take to do the story justice. Now they are meant to be writing the next Star Wars Trilogy with serious questions being asked as to how good they actually are when they have to think for themselves and don't have an existing story to adapt. So once again it looks like Disney has somehow managed to hire someone for an important role/position who starts off by alienating a chunk of the audience. At least this time you can't really say that Disney should have known better. The question now is if Lucasfilm will continue to move forward with B&W's trilogy, knowing that a huge number of people will refuse to watch anything they produce from now on. Or if they quietly let the two of them go and look to find a new writer. That of course is assuming they can find any half decent writers who want anything to do with that MUST be viewed as a toxic, dying franchise. you have a point about the talents required for writing a story vs. adapting a story. and "written by the writers for game of thrones" is not a lure for me, but probably for a different reason that it isn't for fans of GOT. I may have mentioned that I put the book down less than a quarter of the way into the first book. but it might, indeed, be time to stop milking the Star Wars franchise. or, let Lucas assemble the plot and let someone other than lucas write the characters and dialogue.
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Post by wvengineer on Jun 25, 2019 20:04:09 GMT
Rogue One; Actually a good film, if one that missed out on a lot of possibilities moving forward. It's box office performance wasn't brilliant, but this probably has more to do with it not being something most people would go back to see again. Thinking about this, I think my issue with Rogue One is while it is a descent movie, the story was already told and told much better. There were a number of things put out over the years one of them, the computer game Star Wars: Dark Forces introduced Kyle Katarn who has been a reoccurring character in much SW over the years. Like Ep 7, they took established stories and characters, threw them in a bin, pissed on them, and then insulted anyone who questioned what they were doing. By trying to make Star Wars more mainstream, they basically gave a big middle finger to the people who made Star Wars into what it is today.
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Post by the light works on Jun 25, 2019 20:08:44 GMT
Rogue One; Actually a good film, if one that missed out on a lot of possibilities moving forward. It's box office performance wasn't brilliant, but this probably has more to do with it not being something most people would go back to see again. Thinking about this, I think my issue with Rogue One is while it is a descent movie, the story was already told and told much better. There were a number of things put out over the years one of them, the computer game Star Wars: Dark Forces introduced Kyle Katarn who has been a reoccurring character in much SW over the years. Like Ep 7, they took established stories and characters, threw them in a bin, pissed on them, and then insulted anyone who questioned what they were doing. By trying to make Star Wars more mainstream, they basically gave a big middle finger to the people who made Star Wars into what it is today. I guess since I hadn't seen that storyline, and had read the two sets of Han Solo books, it explains why my opinions were the opposite of yours regarding "Solo" and "Rogue One" (or am I misremembering when I think you didn't have objections to "solo"?)
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Post by mrfatso on Jun 26, 2019 1:38:52 GMT
Thinking about this, I think my issue with Rogue One is while it is a descent movie, the story was already told and told much better. There were a number of things put out over the years one of them, the computer game Star Wars: Dark Forces introduced Kyle Katarn who has been a reoccurring character in much SW over the years. Like Ep 7, they took established stories and characters, threw them in a bin, pissed on them, and then insulted anyone who questioned what they were doing. By trying to make Star Wars more mainstream, they basically gave a big middle finger to the people who made Star Wars into what it is today. I guess since I hadn't seen that storyline, and had read the two sets of Han Solo books, it explains why my opinions were the opposite of yours regarding "Solo" and "Rogue One" (or am I misremembering when I think you didn't have objections to "solo"?) I think that WVs ideas are about the same as yours TLW. Yes basically they trashed the whole of the Expanded Universe and set off on their own course, now some writers of new Star Wars material,try to,sneak EU references past the Disney bigwigs when they can, Of and of course they reissued all the discontinued EU books like Splinter of the Minds Eye as Legends.
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Post by the light works on Jun 26, 2019 14:53:37 GMT
I guess since I hadn't seen that storyline, and had read the two sets of Han Solo books, it explains why my opinions were the opposite of yours regarding "Solo" and "Rogue One" (or am I misremembering when I think you didn't have objections to "solo"?) I think that WVs ideas are about the same as yours TLW. Yes basically they trashed the whole of the Expanded Universe and set off on their own course, now some writers of new Star Wars material,try to,sneak EU references past the Disney bigwigs when they can, Of and of course they reissued all the discontinued EU books like Splinter of the Minds Eye as Legends. yes, basically that Disney took perfectly good storylines and threw them away in favor of less good storylines.
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Post by wvengineer on Jun 26, 2019 18:43:24 GMT
Random SW thought: Why do they call them X-wings, Y-wings, B-wings, A-wings, etc. All the letters used as the descriptions are all come from the Latin alphabet. Since this happened a long time ago , in a galaxy far, far away, the Latin alphabet will not even be invented until LONG after the SW universe ended, let alone get insanely long distance to there. They do not and have never used the latin alphabet, so they would have no idea what an X, Y, B, or A even is, let alone use it as a ship description.
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Post by the light works on Jun 26, 2019 19:10:01 GMT
Random SW thought: Why do they call them X-wings, Y-wings, B-wings, A-wings, etc. All the letters used as the descriptions are all come from the Latin alphabet. Since this happened a long time ago , in a galaxy far, far away, the Latin alphabet will not even be invented until LONG after the SW universe ended, let alone get insanely long distance to there. They do not and have never used the latin alphabet, so they would have no idea what an X, Y, B, or A even is, let alone use it as a ship description. for the same reason the majority of the population speaks english. - it's all gone through the universal translator. obviously it had trouble with the B wing, because it looks nothing like a B. a better translation would be the ☥ wing.
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Post by wvengineer on Jun 26, 2019 19:11:37 GMT
The ankh-wing?
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