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Post by c64 on Aug 22, 2013 22:56:06 GMT
I thought the National Hot Dog Association more than frowned on anyone over 18 using ketchup. EDIT: This is a reply to the light works. I don't care. In my area, Currywurst is the "national fastfood". And this one may never, ever be made with Curryketchup. If someone serves you a sausage with Curryketchup when you ask for Currywurst, it's a debt of honour to throw it into his face!
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 22:57:12 GMT
I thought the National Hot Dog Association more than frowned on anyone over 18 using ketchup. EDIT: This is a reply to the light works. couldn't tell you. I never use ketchup if I have barbecue sauce available. - which I do eat on my hot dogs along with mustard, grilled onions, and relish.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 23:02:18 GMT
I thought the National Hot Dog Association more than frowned on anyone over 18 using ketchup. EDIT: This is a reply to the light works. I don't care. In my area, Currywurst is the "national fastfood". And this one may never, ever be made with Curryketchup. If someone serves you a sausage with Curryketchup when you ask for Currywurst, it's a debt of honour to throw it into his face! currywurst sounds like some strange mutant british/indian/german food. from my google search I am assuming you meant to say regular ketchup incurs the debt of honor. of course, only in the US, is there a law that presumes ketchup is based on tomatoes. elsewhere, "ketchup" = sauce.
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Post by c64 on Aug 22, 2013 23:04:52 GMT
part of my routine for assembling things that resemble spaghetti is to cook the sauce for at least as much extra time as the pasta; to get rid of the undercooked-tomato taste. I have developed a method to cook a "spaghetti construction kit" which is the most un-italian pasta in existence in a Bundeswehr cooking utensils on a running engine within 10 minutes. And it's way better than the simple rations we were issued. Even our parrot refused to eat the biscuits. He soaked them and then dropped them into the face of our dog, I think the parrot liked the sound of it because I can't explain why he always aimed very, very carefully. But those biscuits are a fine torch after you smeared shoe cream on them.
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Post by c64 on Aug 22, 2013 23:09:04 GMT
from my google search I am assuming you meant to say regular ketchup incurs the debt of honor. of course, only in the US, is there a law that presumes ketchup is based on tomatoes. elsewhere, "ketchup" = sauce. No, Currywurst is not made with Curryketchup!!!! It's made with a sauce made out of tomato purée (from the core of the tomato), a little vinegar, a hint of honey and some paprika powder. The sausage is cut into thick slices (about 10mm), the hot sauce poured over it and then the Curry is sprinkled on top.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 23:11:04 GMT
part of my routine for assembling things that resemble spaghetti is to cook the sauce for at least as much extra time as the pasta; to get rid of the undercooked-tomato taste. I have developed a method to cook a "spaghetti construction kit" which is the most un-italian pasta in existence in a Bundeswehr cooking utensils on a running engine within 10 minutes. And it's way better than the simple rations we were issued. Even our parrot refused to eat the biscuits. He soaked them and then dropped them into the face of our dog, I think the parrot liked the sound of it because I can't explain why he always aimed very, very carefully. But those biscuits are a fine torch after you smeared shoe cream on them. perhaps the most unitalian thing passed off as spaghetti - though I think spaghettios might give it a run for its money. interestingly, Chef Boyardee was the FIRST ready made spaghetti product made in the US, and at that time was considered to be gourmet quality. for the most unitalian pasta, it is a tossup between Spider Casserole (mix cooked pasta, chili, hamburger, split olives, and mozzarella) and picnic pasta salad (American style potato salad with pasta instead of potatoes) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaghettiOs
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Post by c64 on Aug 22, 2013 23:17:00 GMT
(American style potato salad with pasta instead of potatoes) Potato salad = Kartoffelsalat (The Rhinish style is with eggs, the Bavarian style is with peas) With pasta instead of potatoes, its "Nudelsalat" (noodle salad), in my area (Rhineland) it's with bits of eggs and usually stripes of ham, the Bavarian style looks and tastes like eaten before.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 23:17:21 GMT
from my google search I am assuming you meant to say regular ketchup incurs the debt of honor. of course, only in the US, is there a law that presumes ketchup is based on tomatoes. elsewhere, "ketchup" = sauce. No, Currywurst is not made with Curryketchup!!!! It's made with a sauce made out of tomato purée (from the core of the tomato), a little vinegar, a hint of honey and some paprika powder. The sausage is cut into thick slices (about 10mm), the hot sauce poured over it and then the Curry is sprinkled on top. It appears to depend on the interpretation. one site seems to label the properly made sauce as curryketchup; which implies there is a commercially made product that is inferior.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 23:19:04 GMT
(American style potato salad with pasta instead of potatoes) Potato salad = Kartoffelsalat (The Rhinish style is with eggs, the Bavarian style is with peas) With pasta instead of potatoes, its "Nudelsalat" (noodle salad), in my area (Rhineland) it's with bits of eggs and usually stripes of ham, the Bavarian style looks and tastes like eaten before. I have it on good authority that your style of potato salad is different from mine. - which is why I specified.
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Post by c64 on Aug 22, 2013 23:22:02 GMT
No, Currywurst is not made with Curryketchup!!!! It's made with a sauce made out of tomato purée (from the core of the tomato), a little vinegar, a hint of honey and some paprika powder. The sausage is cut into thick slices (about 10mm), the hot sauce poured over it and then the Curry is sprinkled on top. It appears to depend on the interpretation. one site seems to label the properly made sauce as curryketchup; which implies there is a commercially made product that is inferior. The reason is that the inventor had patented it and a famous ketchup company offered "curry flavoured spicy ketchup" labeld "Curryketchup". The original recipe was a "company secret" and people without any sense of taste used this Curryketchup for their homemade Currywurst. The patent ran out about 20 years ago so now you can get the real thing at "every corner".
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Post by c64 on Aug 22, 2013 23:24:47 GMT
Potato salad = Kartoffelsalat (The Rhinish style is with eggs, the Bavarian style is with peas) With pasta instead of potatoes, its "Nudelsalat" (noodle salad), in my area (Rhineland) it's with bits of eggs and usually stripes of ham, the Bavarian style looks and tastes like eaten before. I have it on good authority that your style of potato salad is different from mine. - which is why I specified. But I'd bet you never had this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SauerbratenAnd the Rhinish version - our national dish - is always horse meat.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2013 23:36:25 GMT
I have it on good authority that your style of potato salad is different from mine. - which is why I specified. But I'd bet you never had this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SauerbratenAnd the Rhinish version - our national dish - is always horse meat. nope. closest I've had to that is corned beef and that is quite distant. on the other hand, it is pretty likely that you have never had proper American biscuits & gravy. (based on the fact my good authority is still trying to find good american style sausage to make it with) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravy
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Post by User Unavailable on Aug 23, 2013 0:39:18 GMT
I thought the National Hot Dog Association more than frowned on anyone over 18 using ketchup. EDIT: This is a reply to the light works. It's the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council, that states that. Hot Dog EtiquetteHere is why they reached that conclusionBut really, who cares? Eat what you like. I sure do.
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Post by ponytail61 on Aug 23, 2013 0:39:43 GMT
nope. closest I've had to that is corned beef and that is quite distant. on the other hand, it is pretty likely that you have never had proper American biscuits & gravy. (based on the fact my good authority is still trying to find good american style sausage to make it with) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravyLightworks send your friend a small bag of Leggs #10 seasoning and have them add it to some plain (fatty) ground pork. I used to buy a mix from a guy on ebay to use with venison that was real good, he only sells prepackaged stuff now because the state made him stop selling his own. Last time I bought it he told me that he added a little bit of dry coffee creamer as a binder and added a few more spices. But I just use the Leggs like it is and it is fine. One bonus of having the mix is adding a spoonful to your gravy. It really makes it pop.
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Post by the light works on Aug 23, 2013 0:49:03 GMT
nope. closest I've had to that is corned beef and that is quite distant. on the other hand, it is pretty likely that you have never had proper American biscuits & gravy. (based on the fact my good authority is still trying to find good american style sausage to make it with) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravyLightworks send your friend a small bag of Leggs #10 seasoning and have them add it to some plain (fatty) ground pork. I used to buy a mix from a guy on ebay to use with venison that was real good, he only sells prepackaged stuff now because the state made him stop selling his own. Last time I bought it he told me that he added a little bit of dry coffee creamer as a binder and added a few more spices. But I just use the Leggs like it is and it is fine. One bonus of having the mix is adding a spoonful to your gravy. It really makes it pop. properly made gravy only has 4 ingredients. drippings, flour, milk, and a little salt.
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Post by the light works on Aug 23, 2013 0:50:55 GMT
I thought the National Hot Dog Association more than frowned on anyone over 18 using ketchup. EDIT: This is a reply to the light works. It's the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council, that states that. Hot Dog EtiquetteHere is why they reached that conclusionBut really, who cares? Eat what you like. I sure do. that seems to be another case of the easterners thinking they speak for the whole country.
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Post by the light works on Aug 23, 2013 0:55:53 GMT
that seems to be another case of the easterners thinking they speak for the whole country. I tend to come from the opposite angle. I think anyone who puts A-1 on a steak that is worth more than $2.00 a pound should locked up to protect themselves.
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Post by User Unavailable on Aug 23, 2013 1:06:27 GMT
nope. closest I've had to that is corned beef and that is quite distant. on the other hand, it is pretty likely that you have never had proper American biscuits & gravy. (based on the fact my good authority is still trying to find good american style sausage to make it with) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravyActually there is no "one" proper white gravy or sausage gravy. It's really just what one grew up with or learned (or didnt learn) to make from scratch. White gravy or sausage gravy, to be as "simple" as they are, ingredients wise, are not easy to make. My wife never learned to make it without it being all lumpy, my daughter makes it to thin. My mother in law usually makes it good, but does have the occasional batch that comes out wrong. My mother always makes good gravy, as she also has the knowledge and experience of how to "fix it" when something goes wrong. The differences being, my mother grew up when fixing gravy was an everyday thing and she carried this on through to this present day. My mother in law is 20 years younger than my mother, while she did lots of cooking when young, she went to work and didnt cook gravy very much for years, so gravy became kind of a "special treat" for when family was visiting. My wife and daughter grew up with gravy being a "special treat", so have not really had much practice at it. When I want good gravy, I have to go to Momma's house, though my mother in laws is a close second.
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Post by User Unavailable on Aug 23, 2013 1:15:37 GMT
that seems to be another case of the easterners thinking they speak for the whole country. I tend to come from the opposite angle. I think anyone who puts A-1 on a steak that is worth more than $2.00 a pound should locked up to protect themselves. Agree on folks trying to speak for everyone, but that does seem to be the "American Way", doesn't it? I rarely use steak sauce, I prefer to let the juices of the steak speak for themselves, though some times, if a steak is a little dry, I'll use A1 or Worcestershire sauce of Hienz 57.
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Post by the light works on Aug 23, 2013 3:27:26 GMT
nope. closest I've had to that is corned beef and that is quite distant. on the other hand, it is pretty likely that you have never had proper American biscuits & gravy. (based on the fact my good authority is still trying to find good american style sausage to make it with) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuits_and_gravyActually there is no "one" proper white gravy or sausage gravy. It's really just what one grew up with or learned (or didnt learn) to make from scratch. White gravy or sausage gravy, to be as "simple" as they are, ingredients wise, are not easy to make. My wife never learned to make it without it being all lumpy, my daughter makes it to thin. My mother in law usually makes it good, but does have the occasional batch that comes out wrong. My mother always makes good gravy, as she also has the knowledge and experience of how to "fix it" when something goes wrong. The differences being, my mother grew up when fixing gravy was an everyday thing and she carried this on through to this present day. My mother in law is 20 years younger than my mother, while she did lots of cooking when young, she went to work and didnt cook gravy very much for years, so gravy became kind of a "special treat" for when family was visiting. My wife and daughter grew up with gravy being a "special treat", so have not really had much practice at it. When I want good gravy, I have to go to Momma's house, though my mother in laws is a close second. I let my wife make gravy all of once. tonight's dinner was mashed potatoes and gravy - worked up a craving.
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