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Post by the light works on Sept 26, 2013 14:03:11 GMT
My brother does not like chicken cooked on the bone because of the extra work involved in eating it. your son might have the same opinion, only more prejudicial.
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Post by User Unavailable on Sept 26, 2013 16:07:20 GMT
I know, whats with that?.... "Stuffing" is now a separate dish, cooked entirely separate from the meat, in the oven, in a separate "Oven-to-table-wear" dish...... WHUT?.... Now I have my Grans secret recipe for stuffing. On a joint to be cooked long and slow.... Basically, its a fat-rich mush that ensures the meat will get succulent moist and tender whilst cooking, and then, it soaks up all the juices the meat looses, and holds them there to keep the meat moist.... its almost an internal steaming device to steam cook the meat from inside?... It has a job to do, and all the while, the herb mix is adding just that little something extra to the meat flavour.... Yet you would cook that separate from the meat?..... What a waste. And back to the Gravy one last time.... I like a pool of gravy over the meat that I can mix in with the taters to give them some taste... This isnt a flood, its "Just enough".... I know some people who like their roast with so much gravy its more of a soup dish?... I know some people who will take just a splash, more of a dipping sauce than a gravy.... Personal taste..... You have to cater for all. One of my Sons will eat those chicken dipper (No special make) type chicken chunks, will eat chicken cooked off the bone, but will refuse any chicken cooked on the bone?.... We dont exactly know the full reason why. He will also not go anywhere near any type of Gravy if its put on his plate. He will however take sauce, if he can put a small spot on his own plate and use it as a dip... Now the Missus?... She will leave the room if Red sauce tomato ketchup comes out of the cupboard.... I cant cook anything with Tomatoes in that she will eat. So on Pasta, she has a cheese sauce, whilst me and the kids tuck in to a good old fashioned Neapolitan style pasta with mince beef bacon salami and chilli in the mix somewhere... with a LOT of fresh tomato and basil flavour that leads you in by the nose..... Takes a whole day to cook, but the results are worth the effort. Also uses every-pan-in-the-house, and creates a dishwasher load all of its own just in the cooking stage... I make my own concentrate tomato sauce from fresh tomatoes, no tubes of anything go in this, its all fresh food, even the herbs are still growing when I start, the only processed food is the salami chunks. The chilli is a small boost thing that just adds a little zest to it, its not a red-hot-burn-your-mouth thing, its just a flavour enhancer. And its a fresh chilli that I use, mushed in with the chunks of beef that I mince by hand with the bacon chunks. Technically, your Grans recipe would be "dressing" and not "stuffing" as stuffing is cooked "stuffed" inside the chest cavity of a bird, fish or mammal or in a slot or pouch sliced into a cut of meat or vegetable. Though the terms Stuffing and Dressing have sort of become commonly used to mean the same thing, even though both are "different". A dressing is prepared on the outside of the meat. We used the drippings gathered from the meat (poultry) when it cooks, in the dressing and yes it is cooked separately as I said, so folks can get "enough" to eat when you have a large family gathering. Typical large family gathering at my mothers house for holidays where Dressing is served* is 25-30 relatives. Often times, she will make "Chicken and Dressing", where the chicken has been deboned and chopped into smalls chunks and then mixed into the dressing and it is then all baked together an I believe the chicken is boiled first and the broth added to the mix to keep it moist. * Thanksgiving and Christmas are the typical holidays for dressing. Though sometimes at other holidays. Oh, and another reason for dressing fixed separately, is we often have Ham as the meat, so you can't really cook dressing with the ham. Then, the drippings from the ham are used to make red eye gravy. And by ham, I mean Country Ham. ---------------------------------------------- I can't say I've ever encountered someone who wouldn't eat chicken because it was still on the bone, other than small children who are used to having their mom pull the meat off the bone, so that they can avoid a choking hazard on smaller bones or gristle. Then once they get big enough that this isn't a worry, they are simply eat the meat from the bone. I know people have preferences to white meat and dark meat. I'll eat white or dark, but I prefer dark from the legs and thigh. I've got a friend who won't eat the chicken or turkey legs, because you often see that main artery in the leg, flop out there when you take a bite. It just makes him woozy to see it, |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 27, 2013 6:39:39 GMT
I did say it was supposed to be inside the meat....
And yes, that does include an off-the bone cut of meat rolled up with stuffing inside it.
Perhaps my use of "On a joint to be cooked" is confusing, perhaps that should be in, with or for a joint to be cooked?....
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Post by User Unavailable on Sept 27, 2013 13:54:02 GMT
I did say it was supposed to be inside the meat.... And yes, that does include an off-the bone cut of meat rolled up with stuffing inside it. Perhaps my use of "On a joint to be cooked" is confusing, perhaps that should be in, with or for a joint to be cooked?.... Yeah, "on a joint to be cooked", obviously to me read as outside the meat. "In a joint" may have been a better use of words, as your English isn't the same as my English.  |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 29, 2013 12:43:04 GMT
Two great nations divided by the same language?..................
(Oh, and a small pond as well.)
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Post by kharnynb on Oct 26, 2013 13:34:19 GMT
Chips you get, popcorn is originally from peru though
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Post by the light works on Oct 26, 2013 13:53:21 GMT
Chips you get, popcorn is originally from peru though did they move Peru to another continent while I wasn't looking?  |
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Post by kharnynb on Oct 26, 2013 21:21:07 GMT
Well, you said young country, which peru hardly is ;D On the potato salad, i only have one advice, german salad over finnish style  Pizza, any old way, whatever you like, i dont care, but pineapple on pizza only with bluecheese and bacon. |
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Post by the light works on Oct 26, 2013 21:28:22 GMT
Well, you said young country, which peru hardly is ;D On the potato salad, i only have one advice, german salad over finnish style Pizza, any old way, whatever you like, i dont care, but pineapple on pizza only with bluecheese and bacon. I'm almost afraid to ask what finnish style is... I prefer my cheese before its gone bad. |
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Post by ponytail61 on Oct 27, 2013 0:34:44 GMT
Well, you said young country, which peru hardly is ;D On the potato salad, i only have one advice, german salad over finnish style Pizza, any old way, whatever you like, i dont care, but pineapple on pizza only with bluecheese and bacon. I'm almost afraid to ask what finnish style is... I prefer my cheese before its gone bad. I wasn't afraid to ask, but I should have been. This was the first thing that popped up when I googled Finnish potato salad. Do you all feed your cats potatoes and wait for them to regurgitate them?   Actually it seems that most Finnish recipes are pretty much potatoes, mayo, mustard, pickle and vinegar, that's basically the way I make it. The one in the pic used mayo and yogurt. |
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Post by kharnynb on Oct 27, 2013 12:00:50 GMT
I'm not a huge blue cheese fan, but finnish style bluecheese is pretty decent and not too "stinky".
Somehow the fins can make a potato salad that is both tasteless and too mushy
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Post by the light works on Oct 27, 2013 13:30:48 GMT
I'm not a huge blue cheese fan, but finnish style bluecheese is pretty decent and not too "stinky". Somehow the fins can make a potato salad that is both tasteless and too mushy well, that's not so bad. I was expecting lutefisk or something like that. |
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Post by User Unavailable on Oct 27, 2013 14:30:13 GMT
I looked up several different recipes for Finnish Potato Salad, interesting. The recipes from obvious American sites, were little different from our various potato salads.
The ones proclaiming to be "authentic" Finnish recipes all seemed to contain apple chunks as well as potatoes. All sounded pretty good. (Well, not all of them, some were obvious health nuts that substituted yogurt for sour cream)
I love potato salad. All types. Though my favorite is Mashed Potato Salad, served warm.
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Post by the light works on Oct 27, 2013 14:34:35 GMT
I looked up several different recipes for Finnish Potato Salad, interesting. The recipes from obvious American sites, were little different from our various potato salads. The ones proclaiming to be "authentic" Finnish recipes all seemed to contain apple chunks as well as potatoes. All sounded pretty good. (Well, not all of them, some were obvious health nuts that substituted yogurt for sour cream) I love potato salad. All types. Though my favorite is Mashed Potato Salad, served warm. There is nothing inherently wrong with yogurt. I am reminded of an old friend who once said, "I love tofu - IN THE JAPANESE DISHES IT WAS DEVELOPED FOR." (in other words, I agree that it is not a replacement for sour cream. it IS pretty good to make fruit salad with vanilla yogurt, though.) |
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Post by User Unavailable on Oct 27, 2013 14:43:05 GMT
I looked up several different recipes for Finnish Potato Salad, interesting. The recipes from obvious American sites, were little different from our various potato salads. The ones proclaiming to be "authentic" Finnish recipes all seemed to contain apple chunks as well as potatoes. All sounded pretty good. (Well, not all of them, some were obvious health nuts that substituted yogurt for sour cream) I love potato salad. All types. Though my favorite is Mashed Potato Salad, served warm. There is nothing inherently wrong with yogurt. I am reminded of an old friend who once said, "I love tofu - IN THE JAPANESE DISHES IT WAS DEVELOPED FOR." (in other words, I agree that it is not a replacement for sour cream. it IS pretty good to make fruit salad with vanilla yogurt, though.) I should have added that I like yogurt, though as you say, it is not a substitute for sour cream, ever. There is no substitute for sour cream.  those who get so into substituting things in recipes, like yogurt for sour cream are over zealous health nuts in my opinion. Eating healthy is fine. Just as is not being afraid to live a little and eat a proper dish without all the substitutions is fine. I eat a cup of peach yogurt (my favorite), nearly every day. Tastes good and is good for my "regularity". |
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Post by the light works on Oct 27, 2013 14:59:50 GMT
There is nothing inherently wrong with yogurt. I am reminded of an old friend who once said, "I love tofu - IN THE JAPANESE DISHES IT WAS DEVELOPED FOR." (in other words, I agree that it is not a replacement for sour cream. it IS pretty good to make fruit salad with vanilla yogurt, though.) I should have added that I like yogurt, though as you say, it is not a substitute for sour cream, ever. There is no substitute for sour cream. those who get so into substituting things in recipes, like yogurt for sour cream are over zealous health nuts in my opinion. Eating healthy is fine. Just as is not being afraid to live a little and eat a proper dish without all the substitutions is fine. I eat a cup of peach yogurt (my favorite), nearly every day. Tastes good and is good for my "regularity". back before my wife got sick, and I had to cut a few things back for budgetary reasons, I had a cup of yogurt every day with my lunch. peach was definitely on the preferred list. |
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Post by ponytail61 on Oct 27, 2013 20:30:49 GMT
I looked up several different recipes for Finnish Potato Salad, interesting. The recipes from obvious American sites, were little different from our various potato salads. The ones proclaiming to be "authentic" Finnish recipes all seemed to contain apple chunks as well as potatoes. All sounded pretty good. (Well, not all of them, some were obvious health nuts that substituted yogurt for sour cream) I love potato salad. All types. Though my favorite is Mashed Potato Salad, served warm. Never heard of Mashed Potato Salad, sounds good. I see it's made basically like other potato salads, but when you say served warm, is that reheated or just served as soon as it is made? I think I may try it and throw a little sauerkraut in it. |
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Post by User Unavailable on Oct 28, 2013 1:03:26 GMT
I looked up several different recipes for Finnish Potato Salad, interesting. The recipes from obvious American sites, were little different from our various potato salads. The ones proclaiming to be "authentic" Finnish recipes all seemed to contain apple chunks as well as potatoes. All sounded pretty good. (Well, not all of them, some were obvious health nuts that substituted yogurt for sour cream) I love potato salad. All types. Though my favorite is Mashed Potato Salad, served warm. Never heard of Mashed Potato Salad, sounds good. I see it's made basically like other potato salads, but when you say served warm, is that reheated or just served as soon as it is made? I think I may try it and throw a little sauerkraut in it. Served as soon as it is made. Once it has cooled or been refrigerated it is best to eat it cold, as reheating makes it "soggy". Sauerkraut as an ingredient sounds pretty good as long as too much isn't added to over power the other flavors. |
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Post by kharnynb on Oct 28, 2013 21:34:53 GMT
Homemade salads are fine, especially if made with "new" potatoes, it's the storebought stuff that is an abomination.
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Post by ponytail61 on Oct 28, 2013 23:02:36 GMT
Homemade salads are fine, especially if made with "new" potatoes, it's the storebought stuff that is an abomination. Well that makes sense. My biggest complaint about store bought usually is the undercooked potatoes in it. I can doctor up most bland salads, but potato salad shouldn't be crunchy in my opinion....except for the celery and pickles. |
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those who get so into substituting things in recipes, like yogurt for sour cream are over zealous health nuts in my opinion. Eating healthy is fine. Just as is not being afraid to live a little and eat a proper dish without all the substitutions is fine.