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Post by the light works on Jun 2, 2013 13:49:59 GMT
This could be a simple spinoff from one of their "dirty" episodes - but with the increased popularity of antibacterial sanitizers, they might do a segment where they compare the effectiveness of hand sanitizers vs. washing with soap and water.
(and for a bonus they could look at how effectively each gets off OTHER nasties.)
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 14, 2013 7:37:14 GMT
Which soap, which sanitiser....
I know decent "Carbolic" soap that will, if you scrub hand enough, take your skin off.... hows that for sanitised?...
Decent soap should work as well as sanitiser?... shouldn't it?....
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Post by the light works on Jun 14, 2013 14:40:16 GMT
My understanding is that while sanitizer kills 99% of the germs, washing properly with soap sends ALL of the germs down the drain.
sorry for the interruption, it was imperative that I feed the dog RIGHT NOW and then come look at a bunny in the back yard.
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Post by Antigone68104 on Oct 30, 2013 15:09:48 GMT
I thought of this one earlier today -- the janitor at work only drops off paper towels if you nag him a lot, so we're currently out. And that means I'm having to use hand sanitizer instead of washing my hands after toilet visits.
It should be an easy test; round up a team of volunteers, spritz their hands with the same bacteria solution they used in the "paper towels vs hot air dryer" test, and test after the volunteers either wash their hands or use sanitizer.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Nov 1, 2013 14:18:19 GMT
Working at a hospital, I spend all day subjecting my hands to sanitizer (Purell). But, while the hospital does concede that sanitizer is best for time management purposes, handwashing with antimicrobial soap is much more effective to get germs, bacteria, etc, off your hands.
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Post by kharnynb on Nov 14, 2013 9:11:23 GMT
I've just heard from my dad, that their hospital is retraining the nurses to use less sanitizer, since it has started damaging the hands.
When you use it too much, the sanitizer does more harm than good, providing damaged skin for the bacteria and virii to live in.
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Post by the light works on Nov 14, 2013 14:53:50 GMT
people's usage patterns for products like that imply that they either think it is a miracle cure; or we are so inundated with germs it is a miracle our ancestors survived long enough to invent it. and the fact that they will use it when they could wash their hands; or use it after washing their hands indicates a lack of comprehension.
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 15, 2013 23:05:14 GMT
It's gone way overboard with this whole germ-o-phobe thing.
I believe I've mentioned this before, but the dumbest "new invention" I've seen regarding germ control is this hands free soap dispenser with an infrared sensor that automatically dispenses the soap for you 'without the need to touch it'.
The commercial goes something like: 'With the old type of soap dispenser you leave bacteria on it every time you touch it, spreading it to others when they touch it.'
Which they only do if they need to get soap out SO THEY CAN WASH BACTERIA OFF THEIR FREAKIN' HANDS TWO SECONDS LATER!!!
And some people actually BUY this *BEEEEEEP*?!?!?! What the hell is wrong with those people?! Have their brains been surgically replaced with small pieces of stale bread?!
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Post by kharnynb on Nov 16, 2013 14:33:29 GMT
Yep, almost as great an invention as the flushable toiletroll. Because, it's much better to throw a bunch of gunk in the wastewater, instead of recycling some cardboard.....
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Post by the light works on Nov 16, 2013 15:11:05 GMT
Yep, almost as great an invention as the flushable toiletroll. Because, it's much better to throw a bunch of gunk in the wastewater, instead of recycling some cardboard..... right. you can make the wastewater treatment guys fish it out and throw it away instead of you.
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 16, 2013 22:07:16 GMT
Unless you have a septic tank and you live so far out in the country you have to do all the maintenance yourself, in which case you're just making it your own problem for later, and a much worse one at that
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Post by the light works on Nov 17, 2013 15:17:54 GMT
there is a story about that from a guy who was in the profession of dealing with those problems - about a particular corporation-owned vacation house. things got to the point where he was called to the house nearly every Monday to deal with backed-up toilets; and one week one of the guests was still there. according to his story, he used a boat hook to pull out a clog built of things-that-should-not-be-flushed and said, "you know, if you (ladies and gentlemen) would stop flushing these things, we wouldn't be having these problems."
apparently the mortification of knowing that people saw their used hygeinic and recreational products, and knowing where they came from was sufficient to stop the problem.
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 18, 2013 19:24:38 GMT
there is a story about that from a guy who was in the profession of dealing with those problems - about a particular corporation-owned vacation house. things got to the point where he was called to the house nearly every Monday to deal with backed-up toilets; and one week one of the guests was still there. according to his story, he used a boat hook to pull out a clog built of things-that-should-not-be-flushed and said, "you know, if you (ladies and gentlemen) would stop flushing these things, we wouldn't be having these problems." apparently the mortification of knowing that people saw their used hygeinic and recreational products, and knowing where they came from was sufficient to stop the problem. If there was a little applauding smiley thing available, you'd be looking at it right now! I've never read anything that was so PC, yet so easily understandable. You paint a vivid picture of something utterly disgusting, yet phrase it in a way that the most disgusting words are "toilet", "flush" and "clog" (which are only disgusting to incredibly prudish people). Well done, sir!
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Post by the light works on Nov 18, 2013 19:39:53 GMT
there is a story about that from a guy who was in the profession of dealing with those problems - about a particular corporation-owned vacation house. things got to the point where he was called to the house nearly every Monday to deal with backed-up toilets; and one week one of the guests was still there. according to his story, he used a boat hook to pull out a clog built of things-that-should-not-be-flushed and said, "you know, if you (ladies and gentlemen) would stop flushing these things, we wouldn't be having these problems." apparently the mortification of knowing that people saw their used hygeinic and recreational products, and knowing where they came from was sufficient to stop the problem. If there was a little applauding smiley thing available, you'd be looking at it right now! I've never read anything that was so PC, yet so easily understandable. You paint a vivid picture of something utterly disgusting, yet phrase it in a way that the most disgusting words are "toilet", "flush" and "clog" (which are only disgusting to incredibly prudish people). Well done, sir! thanks. it's always an agreeable challenge to see how vividly one can paint a picture using only euphamisms.
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 22, 2013 9:10:45 GMT
Just to bring back an "Old" idea... Brass. Brass and Copper, well, mainly the Copper in all of that, its been proved (Recently... past year or two?) that germs and bacteria thrive a heck of a lot worse on Brass and Copper than on stainless steel.
Them sodin' Victorians knew a thing or two when they went crazy with the brass door handles then?....
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Post by Antigone68104 on Nov 23, 2013 17:34:39 GMT
It's gone way overboard with this whole germ-o-phobe thing. I believe I've mentioned this before, but the dumbest "new invention" I've seen regarding germ control is this hands free soap dispenser with an infrared sensor that automatically dispenses the soap for you 'without the need to touch it'. Or the "arm hook" some places are mounting on the inside of the restroom door (public restroom), so you can pull the door open without having to touch the door handle. ... though, since we are talking public restrooms, I suppose one shouldn't assume the last person to use that door handle actually washed up after using the toilet.
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Post by the light works on Nov 23, 2013 18:37:08 GMT
some public restrooms now have the wastebasket outside the door so germophobes can discard they paper towel they used to open the door.
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 24, 2013 0:26:40 GMT
some public restrooms now have the wastebasket outside the door so germophobes can discard they paper towel they used to open the door. That sounds about right for the PC world we live in. Play into their delusions. That'll help much more than trying to make them realize their fears are illogical and unfounded and can be removed with the proper psychological treatment. Nothing's really wrong with anyone. We're all just "special in our own way". Isn't that what they call it these days? Or has that been deemed inappropriate too and replaced by some new and even more obscure term for "f***ing loopy"?
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Post by the light works on Nov 24, 2013 0:29:59 GMT
some public restrooms now have the wastebasket outside the door so germophobes can discard they paper towel they used to open the door. That sounds about right for the PC world we live in. Play into their delusions. That'll help much more than trying to make them realize their fears are illogical and unfounded and can be removed with the proper psychological treatment. Nothing's really wrong with anyone. We're all just "special in our own way". Isn't that what they call it these days? Or has that been deemed inappropriate too and replaced by some new and even more obscure term for "f***ing loopy"? there's an old expression regarding that sort of thing: "choose your battles"
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 24, 2013 0:52:28 GMT
That sounds about right for the PC world we live in. Play into their delusions. That'll help much more than trying to make them realize their fears are illogical and unfounded and can be removed with the proper psychological treatment. Nothing's really wrong with anyone. We're all just "special in our own way". Isn't that what they call it these days? Or has that been deemed inappropriate too and replaced by some new and even more obscure term for "f***ing loopy"? there's an old expression regarding that sort of thing: "choose your battles" Which implies that you must choose some battles and not chicken out of all of them.
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