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Post by the light works on Dec 28, 2013 14:50:22 GMT
and the biggest problem is the illusion of "freedom" as in you must prove that you are providing necessary care, rather than curtailing their freedom.
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Post by OziRiS on Dec 28, 2013 21:19:32 GMT
Sometimes in these cases, you have to fight for your rights. And mostly in those cases, you are ill, and not able to fight. Well said! About Lex's "friend" who converses with road side light fixtures on a regular basis: When I say 'put yourself in her shoes' I am acutely aware that that's not actually fully possible. I can never know exactly what it's like to be anyone else in this world. What they experience is theirs and theirs alone. What I (and anyone else with the ability to empathize) can do however, is imagine how I would feel if I was considered "the nut". That's all I was calling for. And yes, anyone who knows they have OCD and knows what they're doing isn't normal and gets weird looks from their surroundings would stop if they could, but as you point out, not everyone who has OCD is aware of it. Obviously, this woman that Lex is talking about isn't and that makes it hard (if not impossible) for anyone to help her. I still don't think that entitles the rest of us to just call her a nut and be done with her though. |
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Post by Cybermortis on Dec 28, 2013 21:30:16 GMT
Comment;
The laws regarding when people can be forced to get treatment are designed to prevent a government from abusing the system to get rid of opponents. 'You don't agree with me? Then you must be insane and be locked up'.
Don't think politicians wouldn't do this. In the UK they are not above changing the law to prevent themselves from being prosecuted* or from banning people from peacefully demonstrating outside Westminster just so they don't have to walk past them.
(*A few years back the then Government decided that the correct reaction to an outbreak of foot and mouth disease was to slaughter practically every hoofed animal in the country**. It was then pointed out that this was illegal, and they had just opened themselves up for a massive lawsuit from farmers and quite possibly several years in jail. Instead of admitting to having made an mistake and trying to deal with the consequences in a reasonable and mature manner they changed the law to make their actions legal and backdated the legislation so they couldn't be prosecuted.
Kind of makes you wonder if the wrong animals got slaughtered really....)
(**Except horses, as that might have caused problems with their rich horse owning friends.)
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 4, 2014 11:07:18 GMT
Horses can be given "The cure".
However, "The Cure" can not be given to any animal that is in our food chain, and therefore is not licensed for use in the UK.
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