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Post by the light works on Apr 13, 2014 14:34:11 GMT
Point-and-shoot also gets the acronym POS, on one site I go one, "Snap" camera photography is not allowed, unless its supported by the full frame digital DSLR shot it was trying to get. As in, some people I know will use a large back-screen snap camera or a pad to get a shot "Framed" so they know basically what it will look like when its in 7x5 print. This is for those who dont have a sizeable screen on the back of their camera, my own back screen is only a tiny 2x3, I cant see much on that without glasses... and it doesnt do justice to the actual end result..... I use that back screen to check on exposure and other settings, which I may use and alter "Auto" settings when on manual. Getting it right "In the camera" is seen as the be-all-and-end-all for some purists... But I take many shots knowing Post Production (PP) will be needed in Photoshop, like when I am planning conversion to monochrome, B&W or sepia. Anyway, we are off on a tangent.... Back to WHY this type of camera is most useful for shooting Video.... Its ease of use and its conversion from Photography makes it an all round better camera. Its got the best sensors money can buy. It has the best glass in the lens you can ever wish for. There are camera aficionado's out there who would have said already if the lens work was crud, and they praise the glass, so therefore, you are already using the best you can get. Sure yes, you can get video-cams that will do an entire recording studio work in the camera, but for the absolute precise "This is the best" optical work, the DSLR has not only caught up, but has surpassed the video cams used by some outside broadcast units for TV news reporting..... Plus they are a hell of a lot lighter, you can fit spare batteries in your shirt pocket, and you have a plethora of different lens attachments to play with. Then you have the production work.... Some of the camera's now have the ability to "Send" wireless the entire file to your router and tablet. Some have the ability for remote control, either tethered by USB lead, or "blue-teeth" to your eye-pad fingy.... The addition of what other people use for different things, camera companies have set up a consortium of smart phone, DSLR, Video-cams, and Pads, and got a good product that works with everyone else. Its the new DSLR, Ok, you cant make phone calls with it (yet) but you could "Skype" a live photo with connection to any decent pad?...(and mobile network) but the weakness, as I said above, is that it is not designed to be hand carried and shoot video at the same time. the video capabilities are a "Gee Whiz, look at what frills and extras we can put in this thing" feature. so while they are an excellent camera, and I hope to be able to justify buying one some day (my digital Rebel is positively antique at this point) they are not so good that Beyond Productions should immediately throw all their other cameras in the rubbish bin and re-outfit with all DSLRs. would it work for jungle travel? I am thinking the footage would be shaky enough to make it less than stellar.
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Post by User Unavailable on Apr 13, 2014 15:03:03 GMT
Wow, I guess I'm the only one who has actually swung on vines. Here in the US, we have vines folks commonly call, "grapevines", that grow in the woods. I swung on these all my life, when I can find one suitably entangled in a tree top to hold my weight. (After cutting the bottom end) used to swing across creeks and such on them or way out of a hill and back. Swung on a few in various jungles around the world as well. Though as the link posted earlier indicates, you don't just find suitable vines everywhere you find vines. You gotta look around, find a vine that will hold you and cut the end free from the ground to swing. Occasionally you will find the growing end hanging back down from the tree as it grows back to the ground to reattach and spout more roots to feed itself over its vast length and to start new growth. One thing I've noticed about jungle vines, when you have a lot of vines hanging down that you might possibly swing from, then the tree limbs and tops are going to be full of vines and such. Perfect for small primates to move quickly around in, lots of hand and foot holds. It would be a nightmare for a full sized human to move through as it is just to thick. Though I suppose, if the human had been moving about in the tree tops since birth, one might be used to it.
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 15, 2014 7:34:45 GMT
It has better image stabilisation than some more expensive video-cams. It us already being used out in the wild by many film producers. No dont throw everything in the trash, just get one, see what you think, and maybe I will coma along sometime with a jemmy to prise you off it so we can see what you got?...
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Post by the light works on Apr 15, 2014 13:36:19 GMT
It has better image stabilisation than some more expensive video-cams. It us already being used out in the wild by many film producers. No dont throw everything in the trash, just get one, see what you think, and maybe I will coma along sometime with a jemmy to prise you off it so we can see what you got?... consider: the blair witch project (movie) pioneered "shakycam" technology to imitate the kind of thing you get when you use a small handheld camera. image stabilization only works up to a point. if it didn't, they wouldn't have these:
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Post by Cybermortis on Apr 15, 2014 14:05:54 GMT
If you have technical questions regarding camera equipment used (or not used) on MB why not post those questions in the 'If you could ask...' thread in the interviews section.
I'm promising nothing what-so-ever, but I will when I get the chance see if I can find someone who might be able and willing to answer such questions.
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Post by the light works on Apr 15, 2014 14:29:37 GMT
If you have technical questions regarding camera equipment used (or not used) on MB why not post those questions in the 'If you could ask...' thread in the interviews section. I'm promising nothing what-so-ever, but I will when I get the chance see if I can find someone who might be able and willing to answer such questions. I'll do it.
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Post by Cybermortis on Apr 16, 2014 15:55:21 GMT
Lets leave out the how to film aspect in this case. Unlike many other ideas the actual testing is fairly simple and straightforward, the problems are more likely to be a question of what equipment they have or could use - and that would require specific information about the show none of us have nor are likely to get.
What I'm interested in at this point is, as I noted a page or two back, turning this into a somewhat longer and diverse idea. The basic idea as it stands doesn't strike me as having enough to fill a full segment. Or rather extending it would end up showing the exact same rig and test being used time after time, which for the average viewer would be somewhat dull.
However using 'Swinging on a vine' as a starting point would allow them greater flexibility by testing other things you could swing on...at least according to Hollywood ect.
That would give them an excuse to test the fire hose from Die Hard, the steel cable (or more specifically the fall and if anyone could possibly have maintained their grip in that situation) from Die Hard 3 and if someone could 'web-sling' around a city like Spider Man.
There must be more than those three, or more 'hanging on to X' type myths - say being able to hang onto an I Beam that is suspended in the air.
To me having such a 'themed' list might make it more likely that the OP would get noticed if not picked up for filming. (They are not the same thing, but the former is naturally required for the latter).
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Post by OziRiS on Apr 16, 2014 19:13:01 GMT
I have a faint recollection of having posted this somewhere else before, but how about doing the good old movie thing with the bow/crossbow and arrow and the rope. You see these scenes in movies all the time where someone shoots an arrow with a rope attatched at something and then uses it to swing/glide to something else.
I'm pretty sure it can't be done with a standard bow/crossbow and arrow, but there are bound to be a lot of kids out there who believe it. Maybe see what kind of rig they could come up with to actually make it possible. Much like the Batman hoist thing Jamie made for the superhero epidode.
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Post by Cybermortis on Apr 16, 2014 20:00:59 GMT
I *think* you posted it in the thread about the TV series Arrow, as he uses rope (or wire) attached to arrows to get around the city on occasion. I think the idea about being able to use arrows that have been shot into a wall as an aid to climbing has also been posted somewhere.
I like the arrow-swing idea, it is similar to the other part of the Grapple gun myth that Adam tested. But it might be different enough to that idea to tickle their fancy, as well as that myth having been done quite some time ago and the 'grapple' being fired into a different material. They could also add the idea that you could fire an arrow with a grapple of some sort to wrap around something you could swing off.
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Post by OziRiS on Apr 16, 2014 20:18:26 GMT
I *think* you posted it in the thread about the TV series Arrow, as he uses rope (or wire) attached to arrows to get around the city on occasion. I think the idea about being able to use arrows that have been shot into a wall as an aid to climbing has also been posted somewhere. I like the arrow-swing idea, it is similar to the other part of the Grapple gun myth that Adam tested. But it might be different enough to that idea to tickle their fancy, as well as that myth having been done quite some time ago and the 'grapple' being fired into a different material. They could also add the idea that you could fire an arrow with a grapple of some sort to wrap around something you could swing off. I thought I'd mentioned it before There's also the one where someone on the ground shoots an arrow with a line up at a structure to aid his 'accomplices' in making an escape by sliding down the line. I'm not convinced that an arrow could hold that amount of weight, no matter what it's made of and fired from.
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Post by OziRiS on Apr 16, 2014 20:58:34 GMT
Just to settle some of the camera talk about what can and can't be done on the show, here's a link to tested.com where Adam is actually talking to Will and Norm about some of the tech they have available on the show: tested.comBe advised: some of the language in the video doesn't comply with the forum rules, which is why I've linked to it rather than embedded the video.
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Post by the light works on Apr 17, 2014 1:26:20 GMT
I *think* you posted it in the thread about the TV series Arrow, as he uses rope (or wire) attached to arrows to get around the city on occasion. I think the idea about being able to use arrows that have been shot into a wall as an aid to climbing has also been posted somewhere. I like the arrow-swing idea, it is similar to the other part of the Grapple gun myth that Adam tested. But it might be different enough to that idea to tickle their fancy, as well as that myth having been done quite some time ago and the 'grapple' being fired into a different material. They could also add the idea that you could fire an arrow with a grapple of some sort to wrap around something you could swing off. I thought I'd mentioned it before There's also the one where someone on the ground shoots an arrow with a line up at a structure to aid his 'accomplices' in making an escape by sliding down the line. I'm not convinced that an arrow could hold that amount of weight, no matter what it's made of and fired from. short answer: professional line guns fire a lightweight hauling line, which is used to haul the actual climbing line to the recipient. have they done Indy's bullwhip? I don't recall it, but that means nothing.
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Post by User Unavailable on Apr 17, 2014 3:36:13 GMT
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Post by Cybermortis on Apr 17, 2014 10:25:41 GMT
I seem to recall Adam using his bullwhip to try and start an avalanche, but I don't think he's ever tried to swing on it. (I could be wrong, but even if he has that much have been a 'blink and miss it' test and as such something that could be added into a swinging myth episode/segment as a flashback)
Why I forgot about swinging on a Bullwhip I have no idea...*sighs*
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Post by the light works on Apr 17, 2014 13:16:38 GMT
I seem to recall Adam using his bullwhip to try and start an avalanche, but I don't think he's ever tried to swing on it. (I could be wrong, but even if he has that much have been a 'blink and miss it' test and as such something that could be added into a swinging myth episode/segment as a flashback) Why I forgot about swinging on a Bullwhip I have no idea...*sighs* We all seem to have until yesterday.
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 18, 2014 6:57:34 GMT
James bond myth, he had a watch that had a "Mono-filament" line and small dart in that he used to climb up... In a watch?... Thats gotta be a bust. For a start, no watch strap I have ever owned is THAT strong?....
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Post by OziRiS on Apr 18, 2014 8:04:21 GMT
James bond myth, he had a watch that had a "Mono-filament" line and small dart in that he used to climb up... In a watch?... Thats gotta be a bust. For a start, no watch strap I have ever owned is THAT strong?.... And even if it was, it's unlikely that your wrist could have supported your entire weight without the strap cutting into your flesh or even breaking bone.
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 18, 2014 8:17:50 GMT
I have hung off a wrist strap whilst climbing, so that I can do, its just they dont or didnt make watch straps that good back then.
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Post by the light works on Apr 18, 2014 14:16:08 GMT
I have hung off a wrist strap whilst climbing, so that I can do, its just they dont or didnt make watch straps that good back then. if we assume the strap is not factory standard, the next question would be whether one could be made that was both strong enough, and had a smooth enough edge not to cut into the hand. swinging by your wrist is definitely possible - it is the hardware that is subject to investigation.
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 19, 2014 8:42:22 GMT
Can you make a strap that strong?.. Para-Cord, yes, its strong enough, and multi-strand weaved, it would not cut into your hand. Would it look like the strap in the film?... Thats the fail.
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