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Post by ironhold on Jul 14, 2016 3:01:24 GMT
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Post by the light works on Jul 14, 2016 4:04:57 GMT
filming is banned regardless of gender identity.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 14, 2016 6:12:00 GMT
Dont care who what where how or why you are what you are, you do NOT "film" in changing rooms, that is against public decency rules throughout the world. This is exactly why this "trial", this cross-gender person is DEFINITELY interested in naked females and porn in the same way Men are, and is abusing their "chosen" sexuality to become voyeuristic. "In a perfect world", I would rule that this person be refused any further cross-gender aid, be returned to male status, and put on the sex offenders list, and banned from ALL public bathrooms changing rooms and any other like places for life, as a sex offender who isnt safe. So they need to go potty?... do it at home or not at all. That is the sentence for abusing public decency.. plan your trips, keep 'em short, and do NOT abuse public decency. Unless there is some reason for jail time to be placed on the personages head, if the victims of this voyeur wish to make a class action suit to remove them from society, and be incarcerated, then so be it?.. I would also argue that anyone, including the accused, who complains that this is "not right", be forced to live with a public broadcast camera in their only bathroom, and see how they like it.
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Post by the light works on Jul 14, 2016 13:42:49 GMT
Dont care who what where how or why you are what you are, you do NOT "film" in changing rooms, that is against public decency rules throughout the world. This is exactly why this "trial", this cross-gender person is DEFINITELY interested in naked females and porn in the same way Men are, and is abusing their "chosen" sexuality to become voyeuristic. "In a perfect world", I would rule that this person be refused any further cross-gender aid, be returned to male status, and put on the sex offenders list, and banned from ALL public bathrooms changing rooms and any other like places for life, as a sex offender who isnt safe. So they need to go potty?... do it at home or not at all. That is the sentence for abusing public decency.. plan your trips, keep 'em short, and do NOT abuse public decency. Unless there is some reason for jail time to be placed on the personages head, if the victims of this voyeur wish to make a class action suit to remove them from society, and be incarcerated, then so be it?.. I would also argue that anyone, including the accused, who complains that this is "not right", be forced to live with a public broadcast camera in their only bathroom, and see how they like it. I do have to say, though, the timing on this is extremely convenient to the gender identity debate...
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Post by GTCGreg on Jul 14, 2016 14:21:23 GMT
Dont care who what where how or why you are what you are, you do NOT "film" in changing rooms, that is against public decency rules throughout the world. This is exactly why this "trial", this cross-gender person is DEFINITELY interested in naked females and porn in the same way Men are, and is abusing their "chosen" sexuality to become voyeuristic. "In a perfect world", I would rule that this person be refused any further cross-gender aid, be returned to male status, and put on the sex offenders list, and banned from ALL public bathrooms changing rooms and any other like places for life, as a sex offender who isnt safe. So they need to go potty?... do it at home or not at all. That is the sentence for abusing public decency.. plan your trips, keep 'em short, and do NOT abuse public decency. Unless there is some reason for jail time to be placed on the personages head, if the victims of this voyeur wish to make a class action suit to remove them from society, and be incarcerated, then so be it?.. I would also argue that anyone, including the accused, who complains that this is "not right", be forced to live with a public broadcast camera in their only bathroom, and see how they like it. I do have to say, though, the timing on this is extremely convenient to the gender identity debate... If the gender identity debate wasn't going on, you probably never word have heard of this incident.
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Post by the light works on Jul 14, 2016 15:18:51 GMT
I do have to say, though, the timing on this is extremely convenient to the gender identity debate... If the gender identity debate wasn't going on, you probably never word have heard of this incident. right; it would be back page news at best - voyeur caught recording changing rooms.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jul 14, 2016 15:20:58 GMT
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Post by the light works on Jul 14, 2016 15:41:50 GMT
if people are seeing other people's "business" in a restroom, then there is something wrong with the restroom. locker rooms and showers are a different matter.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jul 14, 2016 16:49:21 GMT
if people are seeing other people's "business" in a restroom, then there is something wrong with the restroom. locker rooms and showers are a different matter. I believe this case does include high school locker rooms and "open" public showers. I know the Illinois case does. This is also a case where the school offered the "special one" use of a private, one-person facility and was turned down as that being too discriminatory.
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Post by the light works on Jul 14, 2016 23:35:59 GMT
if people are seeing other people's "business" in a restroom, then there is something wrong with the restroom. locker rooms and showers are a different matter. I believe this case does include high school locker rooms and "open" public showers. I know the Illinois case does. This is also a case where the school offered the "special one" use of a private, one-person facility and was turned down as that being too discriminatory. which takes it back to our previous consensus: it doesn't matter what gender you are, you don't have the right to show my daughter your d***.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 15, 2016 7:16:54 GMT
Dont care who what where how or why you are what you are, you do NOT "film" in changing rooms, that is against public decency rules throughout the world. This is exactly why this "trial", this cross-gender person is DEFINITELY interested in naked females and porn in the same way Men are, and is abusing their "chosen" sexuality to become voyeuristic. "In a perfect world", I would rule that this person be refused any further cross-gender aid, be returned to male status, and put on the sex offenders list, and banned from ALL public bathrooms changing rooms and any other like places for life, as a sex offender who isnt safe. So they need to go potty?... do it at home or not at all. That is the sentence for abusing public decency.. plan your trips, keep 'em short, and do NOT abuse public decency. Unless there is some reason for jail time to be placed on the personages head, if the victims of this voyeur wish to make a class action suit to remove them from society, and be incarcerated, then so be it?.. I would also argue that anyone, including the accused, who complains that this is "not right", be forced to live with a public broadcast camera in their only bathroom, and see how they like it. I do have to say, though, the timing on this is extremely convenient to the gender identity debate... There is no such thing as "Timing" when it is positive proof that the chicken-little-sky-is-falling warnings are right on the point, and we have the first positive ID case of it actually happening. Sweet Irony that its the Target stores that were targeted first?. You can use any sort of euphemism on that person, cockerel-in-a-frock, whatever, but, what we have there is the very nonce making use of their ability to "Identify" and play voyeurism against society wishes by forcing society to "Accept" them as "Confused sexuality" that we warned about in the first place when this was put up for conversation. How many "Genuine" cases of cross identoty have used this new system?.. That doesnt bloody matter one bean in a ton of them, ONE case, thats all it needs, ONE case of young ladies being forced into a situation where they are in danger is enough to reverse this whole idiotic ideal. The chicken-little-sky-is-falling warnings are not false warnings at all. The timing of this, well, how many previous undiscovered instances has there been by those who are abusing the system?.. As far as I can work out, to get changing room access, all anyone has to do is wear a frock and "pretend" they have identity issues. No one DARE challenge ..... No. This is not right. I want these people challenged. Even if its to protect the genuine ones from being "Outed" as possible nonces, false positive wise, there needs to be now a security gate keeper on the gates of all changing rooms to prevent this type of attack. The world changes. We are a bit behind the USA in UK< but even here, there are now PCSO Police [plastic police, community support civilian in police uniform...] in schools to help promote the idea that the police are there to protect and serve. Sooner or later, we WILL have full fledged police officers on the corridors of all senior schools for protection details.... we can see that coming... But as yet, float the idea about that we should have police presence at all junior schools?.. (pre-11 yr old kids) That is unthinkable. Yet before the turn of the century, it was unthinkable that we should need police in ANY school in UK> Even the ones in rough areas. However, how far are the police away from those junior schools?... Dont look too far. Because we already know that idle cant-walk-because- parents that NEED to park right at the gate are being watched already by the traffic cops on the road supervising traffic outside the schools. When I was a kid, less than 5% of kids had transport to and from school. These days, less than 10% of kids walk. The world changes. So we already realise our kids "may" be in danger... now we have proof that there are nonces about to attack the changing rooms all over town... is it not time we realise this and do something?... before this is repeated again and again and again?.. And isnt it about time we elbow these special snowflakes in the face "You had your fun,, its all fun and games untill someone gets hurt, someone has been hurt, now
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 15, 2016 7:20:27 GMT
Now take the above post and turn it on its head. Please please please devils advocate it and try to identify that with those who have gender identity issues and try and work out a system when they can be allowed space.
Is there any logical way we can "Not challenge" them?...
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Post by the light works on Jul 15, 2016 14:46:03 GMT
Now take the above post and turn it on its head. Please please please devils advocate it and try to identify that with those who have gender identity issues and try and work out a system when they can be allowed space. Is there any logical way we can "Not challenge" them?... what about having those who were born with girl plumbing but think like a man does. are they to be welcomed into changing rooms to ogle the other patrons?
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Post by GTCGreg on Jul 15, 2016 16:54:06 GMT
Now take the above post and turn it on its head. Please please please devils advocate it and try to identify that with those who have gender identity issues and try and work out a system when they can be allowed space. Is there any logical way we can "Not challenge" them?... what about having those who were born with girl plumbing but think like a man does. are they to be welcomed into changing rooms to ogle the other patrons? So, other than "confused", what do you call a male that identifies as a lesbian female?
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Post by the light works on Jul 15, 2016 17:10:50 GMT
what about having those who were born with girl plumbing but think like a man does. are they to be welcomed into changing rooms to ogle the other patrons? So, other than "confused", what do you call a male that identifies as a lesbian female? if it takes a camera into dressing rooms I call it a sexual predator.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jul 15, 2016 18:23:42 GMT
So, other than "confused", what do you call a male that identifies as a lesbian female? if it takes a camera into dressing rooms I call it a sexual predator. On that I agree. Maybe even without the camera.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 16, 2016 7:00:06 GMT
So, other than "confused", what do you call a male that identifies as a lesbian female? if it takes a camera into dressing rooms I call it a sexual predator. . ... and so does half the world.The other half is currently wondering if "Its ok" to say that without being shouted at by a SJW?.... I am going to say it..... It is time to say NO!
We have been scared off by SJW's for too long now, we have to start saying "This is not right" and using the force of majority rules to state "WE now are uncomfortable with your life choices and the stigma's you are forcing on us!" We are NOT wrong in stating that nature described TWO sexes only, there is no third, it is a binary system, we do not want a "third option"
We have fought long and hard for sexual equality in the binary system we have. To see that wasted by the "Third option" that is soo much a minority that its less than 1% but still wants preferential treatment, that is wrong.
We understand your problems, but they are YOUR problems, not mine, and my problem is I see someone who is soo much a man entering a dressing room with my young daughter who I am trying to protect, and I do not think that is right. For HER protection, for my Wifes protection, for the protection of every single female I know, I now state, we are not going to allow this to happen without a great deal of sounding off.
I know you may think I am wrong. However. I enter a plea.
Disabled changing rooms.
I have yet to see a changing room in any shop that is designed with Grab Handles and space to allow a wheelchair restricted person space to be able to try on clothes in a shop?...
Instead of which, the disabled are sometimes offered a TOILET to do this in?.. like that is adequate?..
And yet there are more Disabled people in the world than "Sexually confused"
So how do you get to jump the queue?...
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Post by the light works on Jul 16, 2016 7:59:53 GMT
if it takes a camera into dressing rooms I call it a sexual predator. . ... and so does half the world.The other half is currently wondering if "Its ok" to say that without being shouted at by a SJW?.... I am going to say it..... It is time to say NO!
We have been scared off by SJW's for too long now, we have to start saying "This is not right" and using the force of majority rules to state "WE now are uncomfortable with your life choices and the stigma's you are forcing on us!" We are NOT wrong in stating that nature described TWO sexes only, there is no third, it is a binary system, we do not want a "third option"
We have fought long and hard for sexual equality in the binary system we have. To see that wasted by the "Third option" that is soo much a minority that its less than 1% but still wants preferential treatment, that is wrong.
We understand your problems, but they are YOUR problems, not mine, and my problem is I see someone who is soo much a man entering a dressing room with my young daughter who I am trying to protect, and I do not think that is right. For HER protection, for my Wifes protection, for the protection of every single female I know, I now state, we are not going to allow this to happen without a great deal of sounding off.
I know you may think I am wrong. However. I enter a plea.
Disabled changing rooms.
I have yet to see a changing room in any shop that is designed with Grab Handles and space to allow a wheelchair restricted person space to be able to try on clothes in a shop?...
Instead of which, the disabled are sometimes offered a TOILET to do this in?.. like that is adequate?..
And yet there are more Disabled people in the world than "Sexually confused"
So how do you get to jump the queue?... shop I just did some repair in had enough room for a wheelchair to turn around. no bars, though.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 17, 2016 4:02:12 GMT
So how would you stand up and change trousers without something to hold on to?.. Otherwise, tell them many thanks for at least providing enough space to get a chair into?. From a probable future chair user.
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Post by the light works on Jul 17, 2016 14:48:50 GMT
So how would you stand up and change trousers without something to hold on to?.. Otherwise, tell them many thanks for at least providing enough space to get a chair into?. From a probable future chair user. find a pretty girl to come in and help? yeah, I see your point, and it is something that most people are oblivious to.
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