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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 9, 2017 12:19:00 GMT
You're considered old enough to handle multiple ton vehicles - many of which are capable of moving at 100+ mph - when you're just 16 years old, but you can't legally buy a beer before you're 21. Is there any logic to that at all and if there is, could someone please explain it to me? Right. How do they expect you to have the courage to drive a multiple ton vehicle 100 mph without consuming a brew or two first?
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 9, 2017 12:22:36 GMT
"What is equally remarkable is that we can bring them from zero charge to full charge in five minutes, rather than the typical two hours or more needed with other batteries," Can you imagine what is going to happen when everybody gets home from work at 5PM and plugs in their cars to recharge them in five minutes? That's going to even dim the lights on the ISS.
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Post by the light works on Oct 9, 2017 13:38:40 GMT
heat is the mortal enemy of lithium batteries. I'm wondering if the carbon also operates somewhat as a heat sink.
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Post by the light works on Oct 9, 2017 13:39:56 GMT
of course, I was towing a two ton trailer while I was still driving on a learner's permit... (at the time, you were eligible to get a learner's permit, and drive supervised by a licensed adult at 15, and eligible to get your license at 16) And that's another thing I never understood about US law. You're considered old enough to handle multiple ton vehicles - many of which are capable of moving at 100+ mph - when you're just 16 years old, but you can't legally buy a beer before you're 21. Is there any logic to that at all and if there is, could someone please explain it to me? Seems to me the smarter move would be to reverse the order there, so you have the opportunity to learn how alcohol affects your mind and body before you're allowed to get behind the wheel of a vehicle. to further complicate the issue, some states allow parents to choose to serve alcohol their children, as long as they do it at home.
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Post by the light works on Oct 9, 2017 13:40:46 GMT
"What is equally remarkable is that we can bring them from zero charge to full charge in five minutes, rather than the typical two hours or more needed with other batteries," Can you imagine what is going to happen when everybody gets home from work at 5PM and plugs in their cars to recharge them in five minutes? That's going to even dim the lights on the ISS. by that time, traffic will be so congested that one car will be fully charged before the next one gets home.
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 9, 2017 13:47:14 GMT
heat is the mortal enemy of lithium batteries. I'm wondering if the carbon also operates somewhat as a heat sink. The main killer of Lithium-ion batteries is the physical expansion and contraction of the cathode material as it charges and discharges. It literally breaks itself apart. Maybe the asphalt minimizes that.
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Post by Lokifan on Oct 9, 2017 15:25:04 GMT
Just to make things clear, in California, the most common license is the "Class C".
From the Driver Handbook:
As for alcohol, it's a statistical thing. About a quarter of all accidents with teen drivers involve alcohol. This is down from about half, back in the 90s, according to the Center for Disease Control, since stricter laws were put in place.
By the way, about a third of all accidents involve alcohol, in general.
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 9, 2017 15:32:21 GMT
By the way, about a third of all accidents involve alcohol, in general. As a comparison, I wonder what percentage involves an unqualified person pulling a trailer. Seems someone may be barking up the wrong tree.
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Post by Lokifan on Oct 9, 2017 16:24:32 GMT
By the way, about a third of all accidents involve alcohol, in general. As a comparison, I wonder what percentage involves an unqualified person pulling a trailer. Seems someone may be barking up the wrong tree. According to the NHTSA, in 2015 there were about 52,000 accidents involving trailers. About 400 people died. Note: In these statistics, fault is not applied; it just says there was a trailer at the accident scene. Also in 2015, there were over 6.3 million traffic accidents reported to the police, and about 35,000 fatalities in total. So, no, trailers aren't a major cause of traffic accidents or death, statistically. Let's face it. Most people never tow anything. If they do, they likely learn quickly how to do it safely, or they become one of those statistics above. I've never towed anything. The only person I know who does tow a trailer is a boat owner. He's been doing it for decades, legally and safely, without incident.
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 9, 2017 17:46:23 GMT
I normally don't tow trailers either but this past year or so, I've probably towed more rental trailers helping people move and bringing supplies up to our cabin (we're building a boat shed up there) than I have in the past 10 years combined. We do have a boat that I occasionally tow but that's usually only a couple of blocks from the cabin to the boat ramp at the lake. Every now and then, we'll tow it about 10 miles or so to put it in Lake Michigan but that's on open highways with very little traffic. I really have little trouble adapting to a trailer on the back although if I tow the boat using my Wrangler, I definitely know it's back there. I've never pulled a 60' trailer like SD is use to doing and really never want to.
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 9, 2017 23:26:37 GMT
You're considered old enough to handle multiple ton vehicles - many of which are capable of moving at 100+ mph - when you're just 16 years old, but you can't legally buy a beer before you're 21. Is there any logic to that at all and if there is, could someone please explain it to me? Right. How do they expect you to have the courage to drive a multiple ton vehicle 100 mph without consuming a brew or two first? Funny, but that's not even close to what I meant. My point is, when you've had 5 years of driving experience and zero years of drinking experience, I just see a risk of someone having one too many on one of their first nights out and going, "I've been driving for 5 years! I've got this!" Most people I know had their first experiences with alcohol long before they started driving, so once they got their licenses, they already knew that just walking in a straight line could be difficult enough after a few drinks and wouldn't dream of trying their luck with a car, even if they were just slightly tipsy. I've gotten behind the wheel of a car after a few drinks once and that was only because it was an emergency. I didn't feel any effects of the alcohol and I'm pretty sure I wasn't even over the legal limit, but just the knowledge that I'd had a few and knew what that could potentially do to my attention and reaction time was enough to make me drive as carefully as I've ever done in my life and to swear to myself once it was over that I would never ever do that again. If someone had gotten hurt - even if it hadn't been my fault - I don't think I ever would have been able to forgive myself. That's what I got out of knowing my own reaction to alcohol before getting my license. I know it doesn't work that way for everyone. If it did, we wouldn't have any drunk drivers over here at all. That said, if Loki's numbers are correct and about a third of all accidents in the US involve alcohol, we're doing a lot better with that statistic over here, since "only" 10.7% of all accidents in Denmark in 2016 involved alcohol and that statistic isn't even exclusively for the number of drunk drivers. That includes accidents where passengers, pedestrians, cyclists and basically anyone who was involved were under the influence, so the actual number of drunk drivers could be much lower. I just haven't been able to find a set of statistics that exclusively focuses on them. All I can find is numbers on accidents where alcohol was involved in general, but whether or not it actually caused them isn't immediately obvious. Now, I'm not saying the difference between Denmark and the US when it comes to legal driving age vs. age of first experience with alcohol is any kind of definitive kicker here, but I would be surprised if it didn't at least have something to do with it. Having prior knowledge of what you're able and unable to do while inebriated should at least make some people think twice before getting behind the wheel when they've been drinking.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 10, 2017 6:42:30 GMT
of course, I was towing a two ton trailer while I was still driving on a learner's permit... (at the time, you were eligible to get a learner's permit, and drive supervised by a licensed adult at 15, and eligible to get your license at 16) And that's another thing I never understood about US law. You're considered old enough to handle multiple ton vehicles - many of which are capable of moving at 100+ mph - when you're just 16 years old, but you can't legally buy a beer before you're 21. Is there any logic to that at all and if there is, could someone please explain it to me? Seems to me the smarter move would be to reverse the order there, so you have the opportunity to learn how alcohol affects your mind and body before you're allowed to get behind the wheel of a vehicle. "The logic is", permits that affect the ability to work are given before permits that affect the ability to work ... As in, those that enable you to work come first, those that disable you are last.?.. Does that help?. You can get with permission granted from parents, married at 16. Your still at school, cant vote drive drink or watch an 18+ movie, but, legally you can reproduce the next generation of tax payers. Are you seeing any sort of pattern here?. No conspiracy theories needed, this is the way of the world. You are too young to toast the health of your baby... but you can just drive to the hospital on 'new driver's plates.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 10, 2017 6:48:32 GMT
"What is equally remarkable is that we can bring them from zero charge to full charge in five minutes, rather than the typical two hours or more needed with other batteries," Can you imagine what is going to happen when everybody gets home from work at 5PM and plugs in their cars to recharge them in five minutes? That's going to even dim the lights on the ISS. Believe it or not, this is something that was covered by a UK program at the weekend. By 2040 all cars will be electric... by Govt Decree... older infernal combustion will not be forced off owners hands, just discouraged, and petrol stations "Pruned" to discourage their use. Where is all that power coming from?. They did give figures, I think something like 5 gigawatts, "extra" on the main power grid, for a country the size of UK, thats a lot, considering its the same consumption of a sizeable town, including its commercial usage not just domestic. So maybe the 5gig wasnt what they said, think more the size of the town to get the amount of extra sparks needed. Just where is all that going to come from?. We do not have the infrastructure to supply that power at this time. Nor do we have the plans to build it. Yet. Expect power prices to rise?.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 10, 2017 7:00:52 GMT
Just a note. The number of accidents that involve alcohol... Those numbers are "Massaged" by the safety concerns, they include any alcohol related incident. That includes drunk pedestrians, drunk cyclists, and "Buzzed" drivers that are below the legal limit?. and anyone else involved that may have caused the accident but wasnt prosecuted. Like a head-to-head that was caused by someone trying to dodge a drunk pedestrian..... by the time the police get there, the pedestrian, unharmed, has disappeared gone home isnt involved, and isnt charged. Because no one recognised him. Its also the cause of one incident where road markers and barriers from roadworks were moved by drunks and a car ploughed headlong into unmarked roadworks. Its the same as the figures of "Up to" 200 mbps on my internet connection, its a max figure, not always the correct.
I do not condone drunk driving in any manner.... as always.... and anything that happens to discourage it has my support. Including random stop-and-test roadside police checks. That are also an excuse to run the numbers off your licence plate to catch Tax dodgers, illegal vehicles, and the uninsured. Also catching the unlicensed using Brothers licence... This was a random test that just happened to catch the same?. brother on two different sides of the city on the same night at roughly the same time. No chance he could legally have got to both places in the time difference?. Twins. As they couldnt prove which was which, the took back and suspended the licence, on the grounds that the legal owner condoned the illegal brother using his licence... BOTH brothers had to take driving test to reclaim the one suspended licence. The fingerprints of the drivers are now on record to identify which one is which...
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Post by the light works on Oct 10, 2017 13:29:31 GMT
Just a note. The number of accidents that involve alcohol... Those numbers are "Massaged" by the safety concerns, they include any alcohol related incident. That includes drunk pedestrians, drunk cyclists, and "Buzzed" drivers that are below the legal limit?. and anyone else involved that may have caused the accident but wasnt prosecuted. Like a head-to-head that was caused by someone trying to dodge a drunk pedestrian..... by the time the police get there, the pedestrian, unharmed, has disappeared gone home isnt involved, and isnt charged. Because no one recognised him. Its also the cause of one incident where road markers and barriers from roadworks were moved by drunks and a car ploughed headlong into unmarked roadworks. Its the same as the figures of "Up to" 200 mbps on my internet connection, its a max figure, not always the correct. I do not condone drunk driving in any manner.... as always.... and anything that happens to discourage it has my support. Including random stop-and-test roadside police checks. That are also an excuse to run the numbers off your licence plate to catch Tax dodgers, illegal vehicles, and the uninsured. Also catching the unlicensed using Brothers licence... This was a random test that just happened to catch the same?. brother on two different sides of the city on the same night at roughly the same time. No chance he could legally have got to both places in the time difference?. Twins. As they couldnt prove which was which, the took back and suspended the licence, on the grounds that the legal owner condoned the illegal brother using his licence... BOTH brothers had to take driving test to reclaim the one suspended licence. The fingerprints of the drivers are now on record to identify which one is which... one of our local urban legends has to to with the fact that our early natural gas meters were dependent on gravity being consistent in order to work properly. as in: if you loosened the fittings, you could turn the meter upside down and the dials would turn backwards. the legend is that there was a man who made a habit of doing this in order to get free gas; and one month he forgot and left it upside down too long - so the meter, which give 5 digit readings, and the reading for the month is subtracted from the reading for last month in order to get the usage - showed a slightly lower number on the end reading than the start reading. - so the gas company charged him for almost 100,000 cubic feet of natural gas. Essentially daring him to tell them the reading was wrong because he had been systematically stealing gas.
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 10, 2017 13:52:55 GMT
On a similar note, a number of years ago, the city replaced my electric meter with a new one as part of their program to upgrade to smart meters. The new meter had a reading of all zeros. Shortly after, I received a bill for something like $34,000. I called the city and told them that they obviously made a mistake. They actually owed me the $34,000 because I had sent all the electricity that I had used back to them. At least it got their attention. They said that their computer system couldn't handle negative numbers and that's why I got the bill. The girl I talked to assured me that the problem would be taken care of. I asked if that meant I would be receiving a check for $34,000. She said, no, that meant they would fix the computer glitch. So much for "smart" meters.
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Post by the light works on Oct 10, 2017 14:58:48 GMT
On a similar note, a number of years ago, the city replaced my electric meter with a new one as part of their program to upgrade to smart meters. The new meter had a reading of all zeros. Shortly after, I received a bill for something like $34,000. I called the city and told them that they obviously made a mistake. They actually owed me the $34,000 because I had sent all the electricity that I had used back to them. At least it got their attention. They said that their computer system couldn't handle negative numbers and that's why I got the bill. The girl I talked to assured me that the problem would be taken care of. I asked if that meant I would be receiving a check for $34,000. She said, no, that meant they would fix the computer glitch. So much for "smart" meters. sounds like somebody forgot to log the meter change. during the conversion here started with replacing meters when meter sockets were replaced - most of the linemen would leave the old glass meter in if the resident was on a fixed income, because the glass meters would slow down with age - meaning the bill would be higher with a new digital meter. people who were jerks would get a new meter at the slightest excuse.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 11, 2017 8:40:51 GMT
Cut for space I do not condone drunk driving in any manner.... as always.... and anything that happens to discourage it has my support. Including random stop-and-test roadside police checks. That are also an excuse to run the numbers off your licence plate to catch Tax dodgers, illegal vehicles, and the uninsured. Also catching the unlicensed using Brothers licence... This was a random test that just happened to catch the same?. brother on two different sides of the city on the same night at roughly the same time. No chance he could legally have got to both places in the time difference?. Twins. As they couldnt prove which was which, the took back and suspended the licence, on the grounds that the legal owner condoned the illegal brother using his licence... BOTH brothers had to take driving test to reclaim the one suspended licence. The fingerprints of the drivers are now on record to identify which one is which... one of our local urban legends has to to with the fact that our early natural gas meters were dependent on gravity being consistent in order to work properly. as in: if you loosened the fittings, you could turn the meter upside down and the dials would turn backwards. the legend is that there was a man who made a habit of doing this in order to get free gas; and one month he forgot and left it upside down too long - so the meter, which give 5 digit readings, and the reading for the month is subtracted from the reading for last month in order to get the usage - showed a slightly lower number on the end reading than the start reading. - so the gas company charged him for almost 100,000 cubic feet of natural gas. Essentially daring him to tell them the reading was wrong because he had been systematically stealing gas. The "Turn upside down" exists here, but, different. ***Caution do not try this at home*** as if I need to say its dangerous?. But anyway, Gas meters "Dont work like that", they now have an anti-slip brake that prevents them turning backwards. But the "Upside down" part is turning them that way to reverse the flow of gas, attaching the in to the out and the out to the in. Enter me to a scene at a home one time, middle of summer, baking hot, all the heating running full blast and windows open, cooker running, and gas fire lit. They were due a meter reading, and they had "Forgot" that the meter was tampered with, therefore, they had to burn some gas before the meter got read?. These were not exactly good friends of mine, and ceased to be any kind of friend of mine shortly after, because I dont condone stupidity like that?. Especially when they asked me if there was anyway I could turn their electricity meter upside down in the same way. Erm, its A/C, alternating current, it flows one way and then the other, "Thats not how it works". They asked to to explain how it did work then, and, to my eternal shame no, not shame, surprise, I heard myself saying "I aint exactly sure on that" I did, but, no way in hell would I be trying to educate them two bozo's on how to steal electricity?. They were eventually "Caught". Or so I heard... the below is what I was told. Simply by their next door neighbour noticed a "spike" in his own electricity usage, so asked landlord [rented property] to investigate, as when he pulled all fuses, his meter was still spinning?. The landlord checked all wiring, and found a tap into the wiring on the feed to that meter... between meter and fuse box...which led into the next property... These and many other urban legends myths get re-circulated in different names and cities, every now and again, it seams stealing of the power company is as common as it is dangerous. Trying to feed a whole house of a bit of wiring from one 13amp extension lead?. erm, can we say "Fire risk".
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 11, 2017 9:24:15 GMT
Do we really have to?...www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41573846Lets start here. If you have to know someone's IQ, it can only be done voluntary. I am guessing that everyone who inhabits this board, because they inhabit this board, have a slightly higher at least IQ than average, because that is what people with higher IQ do, seek out taking problems to keep them occupied. I know my own is "North" of 130, when I can concentrate, but quite often I cant, maybe I wore that part of my brain out already.?. But then again, I have a mind of bloody useless information..... So why do we need to know the nopes IQ?. This is a probably useless question. He made it to being nominated for Presidential status. I must include the Clinton in this as well, and all past nominees who made it to the final vote as well, and "Most" of the ones who did make it as far as POTUS, because I have "Worries" over the bush "Dubya" and the Regan, but most, if not the majority by a huge mark, have the "smarts" enough to get that far in what can only be described as the most challenging mind game in history, how to get that far anyway. So does it bloody matter?. Maybe like me he questions the validity of the box anyway?. BTW "Average" IQ is considered anything around the high 90's to just around 110.
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 11, 2017 12:12:51 GMT
IQ tests are a joke. I would far rather see people get a CS. (Common Sense) test. That would tell us far more about them than their intelligence.
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