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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 3, 2020 6:30:44 GMT
Greg I would agree I enjoyed it. Seeing Picards regrets about what has happened and his failures is interesting but it feels like it’s set in the TNG universe even if the Federation is still coming to terms with the Unification day attack. So far, Picard has been staying pretty much true to the TNG timeline. And whatever is going on within the Federation, it seems to be a little more than just the unification day attack. Possible Romulan deep state infiltration?
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Post by mrfatso on Feb 3, 2020 9:36:29 GMT
Greg I would agree I enjoyed it. Seeing Picards regrets about what has happened and his failures is interesting but it feels like it’s set in the TNG universe even if the Federation is still coming to terms with the Unification day attack. So far, Picard has been staying pretty much true to the TNG timeline. And whatever is going on within the Federation, it seems to be a little more than just the unification day attack. Possible Romulan deep state infiltration? I think you are correct but I did not mention it as I did not want to go too far into spoiler territory. It will be interesting to find out what happens when scientists go too far into the Grey Zone in the Artefact as well, I am pretty sure that something will go wrong there.
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Post by Cybermortis on Feb 3, 2020 13:43:51 GMT
There is a unconfirmed story coming out that Seth MacFarlane and NBC have had talks with ViacomCBS to buy the Star Trek rights, minus those held by Secret Hideout and Bad Robot. The meeting was said to have been scheduled for 2 hours, but ending after 30 minutes when VCBS asked for far more than what NBC felt was reasonable. This high price was due to the early success of Picard, which it is being reported hit some 20 million viewers and getting twice the views as Discovery.
Some thoughts on this;
NBC being in talks with VCBS makes sense as they would most likely be looking for a known franchise they can put on their own streaming platform. Yes, NBC is going to have it's down steaming service but before you all start groaning apparently its not going to be a subscription based one. Instead it will be funded through adverts, so you know basically a TV channel; Personally I think this will prove the better option in the long run.
That VCBS may even be interested in talking about NBC buying the rights says a lot about how 'successful' Trek must be right now. That the meeting was so short means nothing, they were hardly going to come to a deal straight away.
The part about the Bad Robot rights is a bit strange, as they only ever held the rights to make films with Paramount and these have now lapsed. The TV rights are, in part, held by Secret Hideout. It may be that someone is confusing the two companies or that NBC was basically going to 'allow' VCBS to hold onto the Discovery era shows and 'Kelvin' films for streaming on their platforms. However not wanting these rights does make sense, as it would remove Secret Hideout and Klutzman from the equation without any hassles. Right now the only person who actually wants either involved in Trek is Kurtzman himself.
The 20 million figure seemed a bit off to me, as even with a touted '2 million increase in subscribers', which was for both CBS AA and Showtime, that would be some four times the estimated subscriber base*. However I suspect that this is for the first episode which VCBS made available for free. I also suspect Secret Hideout is the one touting these figures as they, along with parent company Rad Reboot, have a track record of making announcements aimed to drum up interest with investors and make themselves look better.
The 'twice as many viewers as Discover' is utterly meaningless, since CBS hasn't revealed how many people were actually watching. If some rumours as to the viewership of STD being around or below the 100,000 figure then 'twice as many' would still be abysmal; again more 'meaningless statements to make us look good' shenanigans from Secret Hideout and CBS.
*The '2 million increase' was 'in the last 12 months'. rather helpful for me as I'd already estimated the subscriber base (which included 'paused/lapsed' subscribers) as of February 2019 being some 2.8 million; the exact same figure I'd estimated back in September 2017. Thus even if all of those subscribers had gone to AA the total potential audience would be around 5 million.
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 3, 2020 14:49:18 GMT
MacFarlane was doing fairly well with his own version of star track until he made the stupid decision to pull it off free TV.
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Post by the light works on Feb 3, 2020 15:06:44 GMT
MacFarlane was doing fairly well with his own version of star track until he made the stupid decision to pull it off free TV. speaking of which, how has it done since it went to premium service?
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 3, 2020 15:18:39 GMT
MacFarlane was doing fairly well with his own version of star track until he made the stupid decision to pull it off free TV. speaking of which, how has it done since it went to premium service? It hasn’t been on yet. It’s not scheduled to be released until towards the end of 2020. They haven’t given an exact date yet. That said, the interest seems to have waned some. Whether that’s because it’s being put on premium service, or because of the long delay is yet to be seen.
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Post by ironhold on Feb 3, 2020 15:54:48 GMT
NBC being in talks with VCBS makes sense as they would most likely be looking for a known franchise they can put on their own streaming platform. Yes, NBC is going to have it's down steaming service but before you all start groaning apparently its not going to be a subscription based one. Instead it will be funded through adverts, so you know basically a TV channel; Personally I think this will prove the better option in the long run. NBC's app already allows people to watch select classic and current TV shows for free, with advertisements inserted into the regular ad breaks. So this at least is a precedent of sorts.
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Post by the light works on Feb 3, 2020 17:13:32 GMT
NBC being in talks with VCBS makes sense as they would most likely be looking for a known franchise they can put on their own streaming platform. Yes, NBC is going to have it's down steaming service but before you all start groaning apparently its not going to be a subscription based one. Instead it will be funded through adverts, so you know basically a TV channel; Personally I think this will prove the better option in the long run. NBC's app already allows people to watch select classic and current TV shows for free, with advertisements inserted into the regular ad breaks. So this at least is a precedent of sorts. I'm still limited in how much I can stream at home, but I'd be willing to consider an ad supported app.
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Post by Cybermortis on Feb 3, 2020 18:12:45 GMT
NBC's app already allows people to watch select classic and current TV shows for free, with advertisements inserted into the regular ad breaks. So this at least is a precedent of sorts. I'm still limited in how much I can stream at home, but I'd be willing to consider an ad supported app. This is why I think that in the long run NBC's business plan is more sustainable; HBO Max, CBS AA, Netflix, Hulu and Disney+ all rely on subscriptions, and at some point people are going to simply unsubscribe or pick one or two of them due to the costs. Although people keep comparing the 'streaming wars' to cable TV, the truth is that the latter was/is better value for money since packages gave you access to more channels. NBC's route is less sure, and in the short term less profitable, but more sustainable over time and above all going to have a FAR larger potential audience who could make some older shows/films sudden 'hits' when they are discovered and people run to check them out on a whim.
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Post by ironhold on Feb 3, 2020 21:42:21 GMT
NBC's app already allows people to watch select classic and current TV shows for free, with advertisements inserted into the regular ad breaks. So this at least is a precedent of sorts. I'm still limited in how much I can stream at home, but I'd be willing to consider an ad supported app. About 3 - 4 times a year we have family over for various events. This inevitably leads to me and my cat holed up in a corner somewhere attempting to avoid the various drama that goes on. I made it a point to download a slew of apps to my phone to help deal with this, including the apps for a number of television networks as well as the app for my cable provider and a few others. But yeah -> NBC lets you watch ad-supported programming with no issue, BYU-TV is free w/ ads but requires you to register and log in, and my cable provider's app is free with the understanding that I lose access to much of it if I'm outside of my home wireless connection since it's cable company wi-fi. I don't need Disney+ or anything else like that.
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 3, 2020 22:07:33 GMT
I'm still limited in how much I can stream at home, but I'd be willing to consider an ad supported app. About 3 - 4 times a year we have family over for various events. This inevitably leads to me and my cat holed up in a corner somewhere attempting to avoid the various drama that goes on. I made it a point to download a slew of apps to my phone to help deal with this, including the apps for a number of television networks as well as the app for my cable provider and a few others. But yeah -> NBC lets you watch ad-supported programming with no issue, BYU-TV is free w/ ads but requires you to register and log in, and my cable provider's app is free with the understanding that I lose access to much of it if I'm outside of my home wireless connection since it's cable company wi-fi. I don't need Disney+ or anything else like that. Who's your cable provider that you can only watch online at home? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being able to watch on-line? If you're at home, you have your TV's. You don't need to watch on-line. I have Xfinity (Comcast) for my cable TV provider. I can watch my full cable TV lineup from any computer on any ISP. I just have to log in with my user name and password.
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Post by the light works on Feb 3, 2020 22:43:45 GMT
About 3 - 4 times a year we have family over for various events. This inevitably leads to me and my cat holed up in a corner somewhere attempting to avoid the various drama that goes on. I made it a point to download a slew of apps to my phone to help deal with this, including the apps for a number of television networks as well as the app for my cable provider and a few others. But yeah -> NBC lets you watch ad-supported programming with no issue, BYU-TV is free w/ ads but requires you to register and log in, and my cable provider's app is free with the understanding that I lose access to much of it if I'm outside of my home wireless connection since it's cable company wi-fi. I don't need Disney+ or anything else like that. Who's your cable provider that you can only watch online at home? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being able to watch on-line? If you're at home, you have your TV's. You don't need to watch on-line. I have Xfinity (Comcast) for my cable TV provider. I can watch my full cable TV lineup from any computer on any ISP. I just have to log in with my user name and password. it sounds like the cable company has an app that lets you use any wifi capable device as a wireless TV if you are in range of their cable box/wifi modem. - which in the smart TV generation is a good solution to not having cable jacks in every location you might want one.
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Post by ironhold on Feb 4, 2020 7:45:45 GMT
Who's your cable provider that you can only watch online at home? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being able to watch on-line? If you're at home, you have your TV's. You don't need to watch on-line. I have Xfinity (Comcast) for my cable TV provider. I can watch my full cable TV lineup from any computer on any ISP. I just have to log in with my user name and password. it sounds like the cable company has an app that lets you use any wifi capable device as a wireless TV if you are in range of their cable box/wifi modem. - which in the smart TV generation is a good solution to not having cable jacks in every location you might want one. Pretty much. For the record, it's Spectrum. If I'm at home, I have the full range of TV and on-demand channels I would have access to via my cable box. Once I get outside of that radius, however, I lose about half of the available TV channels and 90% of the on-demand channels.
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 10, 2020 0:46:10 GMT
Picard Episode 3
Engage
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Post by mrfatso on Feb 10, 2020 6:57:38 GMT
Cue swell of Jerry Goldsmith music.
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Post by Cybermortis on Feb 10, 2020 19:40:27 GMT
The latest rumors from VCBS regarding Trek;
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Post by Cybermortis on Feb 11, 2020 20:44:10 GMT
Another rumor, this time about Kurtzman and his reactions to one of Doomcock's videos. If true this is rather funny, unless you work on Trek. It may also be grounds for VCBS to remove both Kurtzman and Secret Hideout as I suspect such behavior may be against Californian work laws. Note that Doomcock did report a rumor last year about Kurtzman being triggered at the mention of some YouTubers which *could* lend some credibility to this more recent rumor.
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Post by the light works on Feb 12, 2020 2:22:38 GMT
I know it's not the official thread for it - but are other people having trouble with screens not loading properly?
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 12, 2020 2:42:48 GMT
I know it's not the official thread for it - but are other people having trouble with screens not loading properly? The couple of times I’ve checked in today, I haven’t had any problems.
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Post by Cybermortis on Feb 12, 2020 4:01:02 GMT
I've not been having any issues like that.
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