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Post by silverdragon on Oct 11, 2016 6:59:44 GMT
If the reality/documentary show about UK paramedics I saw the other day is anything to go by, I'd say you're at least a little bit wrong there. One of the paramedics said he'd recently had a night shift on a Thursday where he answered 9 calls, all of them alcohol related. Some of the injuries were from drunk people falling over on their way home, some were from bar fights and two were for alcohol poisoning where the patients had to get their stomachs pumped. Of the last two, one was actually picked up inside the pub. The other had kept drinking after she got home. Her 9-year-old son found her in the middle of an alcoholic seizure and had to call the paramedics to come get her at 2 am. And this was on a Thursday! As the guy said, weekends are usually worse. I'm sure there are some people in the UK who - as you say - don't go to the pub to get drunk, but that's definitely not true for everyone. I read an article not long ago that said an increasing number of UK pubs are closing because people can't afford to go there anymore. Contrary to the picture you're painting of people going to the pub for the company rather than the drinks, increased beer, wine and cider sales in supermarkets all over the UK seem to paint a picture of the former pub patrons now drinking at home instead. Tell me, if the company really is more important than the alcohol, why are these people finding new ways of getting the alcohol they apparently don't care that much about, but not making much effort to find new ways of getting the company they seemingly crave so badly? I think at least part of that is on us yanks. there have been drunkards as long as there has been alcohol, just ask Noah's kids. but American culture kind of built the fun-by-alcohol meme and then exported it in our entertainment. addendum: oh, and they get the alcohol cheaper at the grocer and the company cheaper on fakebook. "The last ten years". It all went ship-shaped in 1999.... Before then, pubs were thriving, but, the latest breed of kid is killing the trade thoroughly, to keep costs down, they will drink a couple of bottles of "Something strong" before they leave the house and arrive at the venue pre-loaded. Many places are now opting to raise the minimum age to 21 even though the legal age is lower, because of the trouble "kids" bring. The older generation now because of the constant hike in alcohol duty cant afford to go out to the pub. You used to be able to buy a pint, 30 yrs back, for less than a quid, now its three quid or more. They have banned smoking, as you know, and despite THOUSANDS of voices saying it makes the air nicer, not one of those that said it would make the place better has turned up at their local pub. There is a "Conspiracy" top have these places closed, as they are not Govt "Controlled", and who knows what kind of illegal fun they are having. And yes, the Americanization of all things has altered how we do things. As you say, Beer is now half the price because of bogof at the supermarket and company is that electronic twit in yer pocket. What I have said about the Pub being the social hearts of the community, was back 10-20 yrs ago, now its places that are definitely moving towards "seedy" if not already there, where groups of youths hang about being plan menacing, or high end eateries, the evolution of restaurant. Many of the old places have gone, 26 a week every week at the latest count, in a country smaller than many american states, there aint many left. |
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 11, 2016 8:57:40 GMT
I think at least part of that is on us yanks. there have been drunkards as long as there has been alcohol, just ask Noah's kids. but American culture kind of built the fun-by-alcohol meme and then exported it in our entertainment. You can't take credit/blame for that. Britain and Denmark Top Alcohol ListBesides, people were getting sh*tfaced on a regular basis long before America was even a country. |
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 11, 2016 10:10:43 GMT
I think at least part of that is on us yanks. there have been drunkards as long as there has been alcohol, just ask Noah's kids. but American culture kind of built the fun-by-alcohol meme and then exported it in our entertainment. You can't take credit/blame for that. Britain and Denmark Top Alcohol ListBesides, people were getting sh*tfaced on a regular basis long before America was even a country. That "site" wont let me view because I have an add-blocker. So sod them, I wont view it then. "Teen Drinkers"... Yeah, tell us about it. As a Landlord, its not my problem. The thing is, unscrupulous vendors such as wine shops and small one-man supermarkets dont give a damn about age, and will sell a bottle of scotch to a 12 yr old if they think no one is watching. Also the thing with "Pocket money" drinks, cheep CHEEP cr@p that I would throw out of my pub with a curse to the person /sales rep/ twit trying to sell it to me to "Dont EVER bring that cr@p here again", can be bought at stupid prices that of added up are cheeper than I bulk buy a barrel wholesale?... But as it has alcohol in it, every kid over 10 is going to try to get a taste. Back when the pubs were the centre of the community, kids that age, were taken along to the pub and "educated", sat with a bottle of coke and a pack of crisps with their parents, learning the "rules". They could see the drunkards, and the trouble makers, and learn how the "Community" reacted, and "Educated" the idiots, by either sitting them down and telling 'em to behave or throwing them out on their ear.... "Ya dont do THAT in here when there are kids about".... 9pm comes, and by that time, all kids have been taken home. It was an UN-Written rule that all kids were in bed by then anyway, so voluntarily, all parents would take the kids home. If they didnt, the other customers would be a saying something?... I have educated my kids in the same way. They have been with us and had meals in Pubs, they have seen what goes on, and from a protected corner, have witnessed the same "dealing with the idiots". mostly someone being told "Wind yer neck in there are kids in here", we dont go to the rough places, the shotgun-alleys, or anywhere seedy... Not one of mine shows any signs of having alcohol problems, they know to respect it, they know the law, and they are happy to toe-the-line. Other kids dont get that education.... And react badly to the first night they have unsupervised access to alcohol. The dismantling of the pub culture has taken away the control of that, it used to be the Community that dealt with it, in a gentle way, its how kids learn?... Now its the Police, and the kids end up with a record for Drunk and Disorderly. It has always been the case that on first contact, the youngsters had problems, but, in the past, you used to do that with your family around you to help. As we Old-style proper landlord would not even attempt to entertain unsupervised young adults, and dont allow them in, unless they bring their Parents for the first few times until they get the idea, its not OUR problem. But now there are THOUSANDS of unemployed ex-landlords, and we were the ones controlling that. Who is left?. The Police. The Govt raise taxes to a point where we went out of business, and now, in the hole left by the removal of the local pub, there is a problem with unsupervised teens getting their "Fix" elsewhere?.. I say to the Govt, YOU created the problem, YOU fix it. If they had left well alone, kids would have had the proper education, in a family friendly environment. |
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Post by ironhold on Oct 18, 2016 3:29:15 GMT
news4sanantonio.com/news/local/student-rescues-cheerleader-whose-military-dad-couldnt-attend-performanceA group of "junior" cheerleaders were at a high school football game when their fathers were asked to come forward and be with them as part of an event honoring parents. Unfortunately for one of the girls, her father is in the Air Force; he had just left for a round of training, and in the process of preparing for his departure the girl's mother missed getting the memo. When a high school student realized that the girl was by herself while everyone else was out with their father, he hopped the fence and got onto the field to stand with her.
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Post by ponytail61 on Dec 9, 2016 23:16:02 GMT
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Post by the light works on Dec 10, 2016 4:35:15 GMT
years ago, I met a retired repo man. he told me that he always considered it a win if he could broker an agreement between the person and the bank that let them keep the car. |
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Dec 10, 2016 14:03:35 GMT
That "site" wont let me view because I have an add-blocker. So sod them, I wont view it then. "Teen Drinkers"... Yeah, tell us about it. As a Landlord, its not my problem. The thing is, unscrupulous vendors such as wine shops and small one-man supermarkets dont give a damn about age, and will sell a bottle of scotch to a 12 yr old if they think no one is watching. Also the thing with "Pocket money" drinks, cheep CHEEP cr@p that I would throw out of my pub with a curse to the person /sales rep/ twit trying to sell it to me to "Dont EVER bring that cr@p here again", can be bought at stupid prices that of added up are cheeper than I bulk buy a barrel wholesale?... But as it has alcohol in it, every kid over 10 is going to try to get a taste. Back when the pubs were the centre of the community, kids that age, were taken along to the pub and "educated", sat with a bottle of coke and a pack of crisps with their parents, learning the "rules". They could see the drunkards, and the trouble makers, and learn how the "Community" reacted, and "Educated" the idiots, by either sitting them down and telling 'em to behave or throwing them out on their ear.... "Ya dont do THAT in here when there are kids about".... 9pm comes, and by that time, all kids have been taken home. It was an UN-Written rule that all kids were in bed by then anyway, so voluntarily, all parents would take the kids home. If they didnt, the other customers would be a saying something?... I have educated my kids in the same way. They have been with us and had meals in Pubs, they have seen what goes on, and from a protected corner, have witnessed the same "dealing with the idiots". mostly someone being told "Wind yer neck in there are kids in here", we dont go to the rough places, the shotgun-alleys, or anywhere seedy... Not one of mine shows any signs of having alcohol problems, they know to respect it, they know the law, and they are happy to toe-the-line. Other kids dont get that education.... And react badly to the first night they have unsupervised access to alcohol. The dismantling of the pub culture has taken away the control of that, it used to be the Community that dealt with it, in a gentle way, its how kids learn?... Now its the Police, and the kids end up with a record for Drunk and Disorderly. It has always been the case that on first contact, the youngsters had problems, but, in the past, you used to do that with your family around you to help. As we Old-style proper landlord would not even attempt to entertain unsupervised young adults, and dont allow them in, unless they bring their Parents for the first few times until they get the idea, its not OUR problem. But now there are THOUSANDS of unemployed ex-landlords, and we were the ones controlling that. Who is left?. The Police. The Govt raise taxes to a point where we went out of business, and now, in the hole left by the removal of the local pub, there is a problem with unsupervised teens getting their "Fix" elsewhere?.. I say to the Govt, YOU created the problem, YOU fix it. If they had left well alone, kids would have had the proper education, in a family friendly environment. I remember my first vist to a British pub many moons ago when I was 13 & we were visting my Grandparents for Xmas. It was fun I remember we (Mum, Dad & I) had a nice meal in the Beer Garden. Dad had a few pints since we were using public transit/ cabs to get about that day. Mum had a beer (something she rearely does) & they even let me have a sneeky shandy (a shandy is a drink that is roughly 3 parts lemonade/Sprite to 1part beer). For me it was a healthy/safe enviornment in which to learn about/experiance/have my first 'grown up' encounter with alcohol. At the time people were drinking & having fun all around us. But at no point did anyone go off the rails, or make me as a child feel scared to be there. There seemed to be to me as Dragon has said an unwritten rule that you pulled your horns in while @ the pub during daylight hours. Or you'd find yourself quickly taken in line by everyone else there. |
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Post by ironhold on Jan 2, 2017 5:04:01 GMT
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Post by the light works on Jan 2, 2017 15:56:37 GMT
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Post by ironhold on Jan 16, 2017 4:26:35 GMT
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Post by the light works on Jan 16, 2017 17:58:33 GMT
the sad thing is this sort of community involvement used to go without saying. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Jan 16, 2017 19:20:09 GMT
the sad thing is this sort of community involvement used to go without saying. I think it still is quite common. It's just the news media normally doesn't find it worthy of reporting. They'd prefer to talk about the one person in 10 million that shot someone for taking their parking spot. I know that around here, all the neighbors help each other out after a big snow. My next door neighbor and I always have a race to see who can get out first and shovel the other guy's sidewalk. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 17, 2017 2:08:07 GMT
the sad thing is this sort of community involvement used to go without saying. I think it still is quite common. It's just the news media normally doesn't find it worthy of reporting. They'd prefer to talk about the one person in 10 million that shot someone for taking their parking spot. I know that around here, all the neighbors help each other out after a big snow. My next door neighbor and I always have a race to see who can get out first and shovel the other guy's sidewalk. to me, helping someone out is kind of a given. I even try to donate minor electrical work on occasion. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Jan 17, 2017 3:23:32 GMT
I think it still is quite common. It's just the news media normally doesn't find it worthy of reporting. They'd prefer to talk about the one person in 10 million that shot someone for taking their parking spot. I know that around here, all the neighbors help each other out after a big snow. My next door neighbor and I always have a race to see who can get out first and shovel the other guy's sidewalk. to me, helping someone out is kind of a given. I even try to donate minor electrical work on occasion. And in your case, it's also a profession. And my hat's off to what you do. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 17, 2017 3:52:18 GMT
to me, helping someone out is kind of a given. I even try to donate minor electrical work on occasion. And in your case, it's also a profession. And my hat's off to what you do. well, the fire rescue part is a good way to get someone else to buy toys for me. |
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 17, 2017 11:13:02 GMT
the sad thing is this sort of community involvement used to go without saying. I think it still is quite common. It's just the news media normally doesn't find it worthy of reporting. They'd prefer to talk about the one person in 10 million that shot someone for taking their parking spot. I know that around here, all the neighbors help each other out after a big snow. My next door neighbor and I always have a race to see who can get out first and shovel the other guy's sidewalk. Just like about six month ago when I got a flat tyre, in a supermarket car park (own car) and two Taxi drivers stopped to offer help... I had it under control, but its nice they offered anyway?. |
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Post by ironhold on Jan 18, 2017 5:26:41 GMT
OK.
I lost track of things because I got busy in life, and so I forgot to check the expiration dates on the contents of the first aid kit I keep in the car. Most everything was past date, and so now I was looking at going to the local Walgreens chain pharmacy in order to stock back up.
On my way out the door, I decided to swing by their candy aisle. Select Hershey-brand chocolate bars were on sale for $0.59 US each, and I had coupons for one specific variety. Previously, they hadn't been able to keep this specific chocolate bar in stock; it'd been months since I'd seen more than a lone bar left by itself. But today, they had a full case.
The coupons? $1 off on two.
..Or $0.50 off on one.
...Meaning I managed to snag a bunch of chocolate bars for $0.09 apiece.
And given how much I spent putting my first aid kit back together, I went past the minimum threshold to trigger a 5* point multiplier boost for the trip, giving me 5* the points on my store rewards card. And store rewards are based on price before coupons, meaning that I got 5* the rewards based on the $0.59 sales price instead of the $0.09 after-coupon price.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jan 18, 2017 6:24:19 GMT
OK. I lost track of things because I got busy in life, and so I forgot to check the expiration dates on the contents of the first aid kit I keep in the car. Most everything was past date, and so now I was looking at going to the local Walgreens chain pharmacy in order to stock back up. On my way out the door, I decided to swing by their candy aisle. Select Hershey-brand chocolate bars were on sale for $0.59 US each, and I had coupons for one specific variety. Previously, they hadn't been able to keep this specific chocolate bar in stock; it'd been months since I'd seen more than a lone bar left by itself. But today, they had a full case. The coupons? $1 off on two. ..Or $0.50 off on one. ...Meaning I managed to snag a bunch of chocolate bars for $0.09 apiece. And given how much I spent putting my first aid kit back together, I went past the minimum threshold to trigger a 5* point multiplier boost for the trip, giving me 5* the points on my store rewards card. And store rewards are based on price before coupons, meaning that I got 5* the rewards based on the $0.59 sales price instead of the $0.09 after-coupon price. You sound like my daughter, the coupon queen. She can shop and pick up $50 worth of goods and by the time she's done stacking all her coupons, they end up owing her money. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 18, 2017 14:21:55 GMT
OK. I lost track of things because I got busy in life, and so I forgot to check the expiration dates on the contents of the first aid kit I keep in the car. Most everything was past date, and so now I was looking at going to the local Walgreens chain pharmacy in order to stock back up. On my way out the door, I decided to swing by their candy aisle. Select Hershey-brand chocolate bars were on sale for $0.59 US each, and I had coupons for one specific variety. Previously, they hadn't been able to keep this specific chocolate bar in stock; it'd been months since I'd seen more than a lone bar left by itself. But today, they had a full case. The coupons? $1 off on two. ..Or $0.50 off on one. ...Meaning I managed to snag a bunch of chocolate bars for $0.09 apiece. And given how much I spent putting my first aid kit back together, I went past the minimum threshold to trigger a 5* point multiplier boost for the trip, giving me 5* the points on my store rewards card. And store rewards are based on price before coupons, meaning that I got 5* the rewards based on the $0.59 sales price instead of the $0.09 after-coupon price. It's those little wins that make the game entertaining. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2017 16:30:01 GMT
Just talked to my old college sailing instructor. so there's at least one person 2016 didn't get.
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