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Post by OziRiS on Oct 12, 2014 23:19:08 GMT
I know, but a chicken has a brain the size of a pea. It won't be suspicious of ropes hanging from trees. People will and I was thinking of the people version of this trap. you have a lot of faith in your fellow man. LOL!  |
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Post by Cybermortis on Oct 12, 2014 23:34:36 GMT
As I recall the trap Adam created was activated by him pulling on a rope, rather than being spring loaded/automatic. Come to think of it this is the same general type of trap the Ewoks used in Jedi, which might make it a practical proposition since we actually have some idea as to what and how it was activated - pulling meat off a wooden pole.
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Post by the light works on Oct 12, 2014 23:55:28 GMT
As I recall the trap Adam created was activated by him pulling on a rope, rather than being spring loaded/automatic. Come to think of it this is the same general type of trap the Ewoks used in Jedi, which might make it a practical proposition since we actually have some idea as to what and how it was activated - pulling meat off a wooden pole. a net trap has three testable components: whether the victim will notice it; whether it can be triggered reliably, and whether the victim can escape from it before being captured. I also suspect it will take more structure than the average "gonna try it at home despite the warnings" person has ready access to. (which I suppose makes for a fourth testable component - can it actually function with improvised structures.) that makes it promising. |
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 13, 2014 0:46:20 GMT
As I recall the trap Adam created was activated by him pulling on a rope, rather than being spring loaded/automatic. Come to think of it this is the same general type of trap the Ewoks used in Jedi, which might make it a practical proposition since we actually have some idea as to what and how it was activated - pulling meat off a wooden pole. a net trap has three testable components: whether the victim will notice it; whether it can be triggered reliably, and whether the victim can escape from it before being captured. I also suspect it will take more structure than the average "gonna try it at home despite the warnings" person has ready access to. (which I suppose makes for a fourth testable component - can it actually function with improvised structures.) that makes it promising. There's also the fourth testable component: Can you rely on this trap not hurting your "prey"? In movies and cartoons, no one ever gets hurt in these things, but I would imagine that a net big and strong enough to trap a human being (sometimes more than one) coming up from underneath you at a speed and force sufficient enough to pull you 6-8 feet into the air could hurt quite a bit. Not to mention that you might have limbs fully or partially sticking out of the holes in the net, or you might get more or less folded in half. Being unprepared for that event, I'd be willing to bet you could easily at least pull or sprain something, if not break bones - especially in the case of multiple people in the same net where knees and elbows are likely to make contact with heads. |
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Post by the light works on Oct 13, 2014 1:28:02 GMT
a net trap has three testable components: whether the victim will notice it; whether it can be triggered reliably, and whether the victim can escape from it before being captured. I also suspect it will take more structure than the average "gonna try it at home despite the warnings" person has ready access to. (which I suppose makes for a fourth testable component - can it actually function with improvised structures.) that makes it promising. There's also the fourth testable component: Can you rely on this trap not hurting your "prey"? In movies and cartoons, no one ever gets hurt in these things, but I would imagine that a net big and strong enough to trap a human being (sometimes more than one) coming up from underneath you at a speed and force sufficient enough to pull you 6-8 feet into the air could hurt quite a bit. Not to mention that you might have limbs fully or partially sticking out of the holes in the net, or you might get more or less folded in half. Being unprepared for that event, I'd be willing to bet you could easily at least pull or sprain something, if not break bones - especially in the case of multiple people in the same net where knees and elbows are likely to make contact with heads. that assumes you want them more intact than less - not that it invalidates it. and that makes 5 testables. |
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Post by Cybermortis on Oct 13, 2014 1:38:11 GMT
OK, nice errm, catch.
Any similar none-lethal traps like that you can think of - as I said it occurred to me that there might be traps, even if not intended for humans, in some kids programs or films. But not being a kid or having any that is an area I'm not remotely qualified or knowledgeable about.
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Post by the light works on Oct 13, 2014 4:27:56 GMT
there's always the strew the floor with mousetraps trick. does it really cause a chain reaction? (I'd say do it with rat traps, because they really DO jump.)
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 13, 2014 7:50:58 GMT
Question on power source.
How many sources of power would remain viable for a century?....
Even if its a large weight, whats holding it up?... would wooden machinery remain viable for a century?...
So with all there traps, what is making the machine tick, and how can a 200yr old wooden cogwheel still work.
Wood can be preserved for a long time, we know, but how long, and under what conditions, and if that is a water wheel, forget it.
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Post by the light works on Oct 13, 2014 13:44:46 GMT
Question on power source. How many sources of power would remain viable for a century?.... Even if its a large weight, whats holding it up?... would wooden machinery remain viable for a century?... So with all there traps, what is making the machine tick, and how can a 200yr old wooden cogwheel still work. Wood can be preserved for a long time, we know, but how long, and under what conditions, and if that is a water wheel, forget it. that sounds like a supplemental myth - call it "building for the ages" if you will - and it would have to be a two part episode with part one done now, and part 2 done in season 300. |
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