Star Wars Discussion

I just said, twice, that the film is not going to be delayed for two reasons; It would make Disney look bad and would further inflate an already absurd budget to a point it stands no chance of breaking even. (It may have already hit that point)

My other point is that the film is going to struggle to make any money. It's global box office performance will have to at least match Last Jedi to break even. And with the state and performance of the franchise overall it may have problems managing even that.

This is abundantly clear if only for the fact that Disney has place ALL other film projects on hold for the time being. Something they would hardly be doing if the franchise was performing even half as well as they are pretending it is.

What I'm hearing is that so many people tried to get on during the first day it crashed the service for a lot of folks.

Disney can try to spin it as proof of how in-demand their stuff is and how many people are on there, but to the folks who couldn't even get on that's a reason to cancel their subscriptions.


Also, supposedly, someone uploaded the episodes of one of the "Ducktales" series out of order, and so the production team is having to send people a proper episode list while they get the episodes re-ordered. Oops.

There were LOT of reports of server problems at Disney+ with the launch. Figure some of it is normal teething issues. However, you would think they would have done some better stress testing before launch.

www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2019/11/12/disney-plus-unable-to-connect-as-server-issues-and-security-concerns-plague-launch-day/#1118f49129e5

We'll see how things are going in a couple weeks. I am interest in getting this. Lots of stuff for the kids, including a large part of the Disney archive of animated and live action movies. (etc. The Black Hole, Parent Trap, Old Yeller, The Love Bug, The Shaggy Dog, etc) to their older TV cartoon like Duck Tails & Tail Spin. No to mention most if not all of the Marvel movies.

That being said, I am nervous about another streaming service on top of the several I already have. I'll go though my current subscriptions and see what is still worth the money. I'm not doing anything for a month or two to give things a change to settle down and bugs to get worked out.

New video from Doomcock, with some cursing:



Someone has provided him with details of what they claim was a test screening of the film. This person acted independently of others, but some of the details they provided line up with what he's gotten from other leaks and rumors. As such, while he cannot confirm the whole of what he was told, he isn't yet doubting its veracity.

The gist is that even though this test screening only involved a slapdash mix of sequences that were in the shape of a film, it was so awful that a number of people chose to leave the screening early even though it meant forfeiting their payment for watching it.

"a friend of an unverified source, said he knows someone who talked to an unverified source..."

not ironically, the first time Cyber linked Doomcock, here, I watched part of his video and then closed the tab, early, because he is pretty much just a bombastic blowhard.

Another day, another leak sent Doomcock's way.

It fits in with material from other leaks, but offers additional information.

JJ Abrams officially name-dropped the Fandom Menace in an interview.

Given that he soft-balled his response to them -> no accusations of racism, sexism, et cetra -> Doomcock is beginning to suspect that Abrams is coming to realize that the fan opposition is larger than originally believed and that he's extending an olive branch because he now knows he'll be in significant trouble if he doesn't.

One additional report has reached Doomcock.

According to this report, Disney's response to the multiple versions of the movie all being poorly received by test screenings was to take the "best" parts from each version and Frankenstein them together into a single film. The end result is a movie that has virtually no narrative structure due to critical scenes being needed for context being removed and replaced.

Doomcock started with reviews of Star Drek Discovery, being highly critical of that mess. His only mentions of Star Wars were passing references made in connection to JJ Abrams and him being a hack - based on the Star Trek films and this also coming out with Awakens being a rehash of New Hope but without any of the charm.

In terms of the 'Fandom Menace' he's actually a late comer relatively speaking. Many of the issues surrounding Lucasfilm in general and Star Wars in particular had been commented on by others since Awakens. Those channels ranging from Midnights Edge, who take a calm measured approach to reporting what is going on. Filling in background information, adding context and making it clear what is fact and what they are speculating on. Then we have channels like Geeks and Gamers who have a nasty habit of reporting rumors and speculation as fact.

It should be noted that Doomcock himself has reported rumors on other franchises that have turned out to be true - Game Of Thrones was the biggest example.

Midnights Edge did an opinion video in which they noted that a LOT of what Doomcock has been reporting seems to be backed up by other known facts and standard Hollywood practices. They have also noted that their own sources backup Doomcock's reports that the film is still not finished, with things behind the scenes being a mess.