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Post by the light works on Feb 25, 2019 0:14:44 GMT
Episode 10: Despite Yourself I finally made tie to watch another episode. So, the crew of the Discovery quickly figure out that they are caught in an alternate universe. This is the mirror universe that we have visited a number of time before in TOS, DS9 and Ent. Stamets has gone wacko, the means that for they are stuck there for the time being. They recover a computer core from a destroyed Klingon ship to see what is going on. They find out about the cut throat culture of the Terran Empire. Captain Lorca is the most wanted fugitive in the Empire, MB is missing, presumed dead, and the captain of the Discovery it spinless Tilly. They will need to play along to hind in the universe until they can figure out how to get home. They dig up some basic info about the USS Defiant, NCC-1764. (TOS: The Tholian Web, Ent: In a Mirror Darkly) They figure if they can figure out how that ship crossed over, they can try to repeat it so they can get home. Meanwhile, Tyler is having every increasing PTSD and flashbacks from his imprisonment by the Klingons. He goes to get checked out by Doc Culber, who finds that he has been extensively manipulated both mentally and physically during his captivity. Doc is going to pull him from active duty, but Tyler kills him. They need info on the Defiant, so MB, Lorca, and Tyler pose as their mirror selves so that they can get the classified info on the ship. They go to the ISS Shenzhou, MB's old ship to see what they can get. Issues: Somehow, no one notices the CMO is dead. Also, there are a number of continuity issues. Once they decide to blend in, Lorca orders they to go all out to maintain the ruse. They repaint the ship as the ISS Discovery, update computer displays, and issue everyone new uniforms. However, within a few scenes people are back in old uniforms, so that makes things confusing. Also, some of the camera work is getting really annoying. There are a few conversations where the camera is literally going in circles around them the whole time. It actually made me a bit motion sick. I will say that I do like the mirror uniforms, if nothing else because they are not so bland. It adds a bit of needed color to things. Overall, not much happens here. The foreshadowing is as subtle as a ton of blinks. I was glad that they finally got rid of Culber. He has always been annoying. it would have been a major win if the "alternate" universe they got transferred into was the Roddenberry universe. and they decided to stay, because it made more sense. |
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Post by mrfatso on Feb 27, 2019 21:12:02 GMT
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 27, 2019 21:42:55 GMT
Well, good for Discovery. Hopefully they will get their act together. The first two seasons of Next Gen were pretty bad too and they turned it around in season 3. |
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Post by Cybermortis on Feb 27, 2019 22:18:01 GMT
Note for those who didn't read the article; Kurtzman is still on the show as co-showrunner.
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Post by mrfatso on Feb 28, 2019 9:24:30 GMT
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 28, 2019 13:05:43 GMT
Unfortunately, Discovery’s problem is not who is directing, it’s who is writing.
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 3, 2019 20:20:41 GMT
According to rumors STD's 'renewal' for a season 3 might not be quite how it seems. Short version;
STD's third season will consist of a series of 'shorts' around 20 minutes in length.
Total budget will be $18 million.
This is being done both to save face and save money which has been reallocated to the Picard series.
For the longer version, including some other rumors;
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 3, 2019 20:39:21 GMT
I really don’t see there being any hope of salvaging discovery at this point as the characters themselves are so deeply flawed they’d have to do a complete re-boot, but I am keeping an open mind and looking forward to the Picard series.
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 11, 2019 1:06:27 GMT
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 11, 2019 1:33:28 GMT
If you want to see the battle in question, and know what the fuss is about, it was posted in YouTube on what seems to be the official site;
WARNING; Will contain spoilers.
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Post by mrfatso on Mar 11, 2019 9:12:17 GMT
According to rumors STD's 'renewal' for a season 3 might not be quite how it seems. Short version; STD's third season will consist of a series of 'shorts' around 20 minutes in length. Total budget will be $18 million. This is being done both to save face and save money which has been reallocated to the Picard series. For the longer version, including some other rumors; Are these the same sources that said that Star Trek Discovery was going go be cancelled after season 2 and that the Pricard project was on hold. Who is trying to save face ? I'll take what they suggest with a pinch of salt until I know more. |
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 11, 2019 15:06:24 GMT
Doomcock did, of the top of my head, ask if STD had been cancelled but never claimed it actually had been. Rather he noted that that was a rumor, as he does for much of the information he gives here.
He actually asked this due to an insider leaking some behind the scenes information about the show, including the rumored actual viewer numbers. The tends not to give absolute statements, but come to a conclusion based on evidence that he typically notes as being rumor and hence should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Here he notes that this is rumor, but that his information is coming from two different sources; One is a source he knows from inside CBS the other is a newer source who's information has directly or indirectly has been confirmed by, or at least conforms to, other sources. He is noting this should be treated as rumor not fact, in part because he's omitting some information that was passed onto him to protect his sources.
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Post by wvengineer on Mar 23, 2019 23:35:23 GMT
I finally managed to bring myself to watch another episode. They defiantly feel like a chore to get though.
Episode 11: The Wolf Inside
Starts with MB playing evil captain and complaining about how hard it is. She does a LOT of that in this episode.
She sleeps with Ash. But he is having continued breakdowns. She finds the intel they need on the USS Defiant, but it is part of a massive block of incrypted data, which she can't transmit or try to decrypt without drawing attention to herself. So she is stuck on the local ship until she can find a way to get it to the Discovery.
She gets orders to go destroy the location of the top rebel leadership. She finds it interesting that rebel leader is the Klingon leader from her home dimension. She makes the excuse to go visit them, meeting the local version of Sarek and Voq. She wants Voq to explain how he was able to form a union of Klingon, Vulcan, Andorain, & Tellerite. They talk and she leaves. However, Ash has a full on breakdown and Ash's original Klingon personality reverts. She return to the ship. Ash attacks MB and is charged with attempted murder, crime to be punished by spacing.
Ash is transported into space, and then transported to the Discovery. MB slipped the disc of the Defiant data into his pocket before his "execution." to get it back to them.
Meanwhile, Samits is still in a coma. There is a lot of technobabble back and forth. Basically the spores are killing him. So they try a procedure and he dies. For no reason he come back to life a while later.
Impressions: Rather boring. The whole thing is utterly predictable.
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Post by the light works on Mar 24, 2019 0:25:31 GMT
I finally managed to bring myself to watch another episode. They defiantly feel like a chore to get though. Episode 11: The Wolf Inside Starts with MB playing evil captain and complaining about how hard it is. She does a LOT of that in this episode. She sleeps with Ash. But he is having continued breakdowns. She finds the intel they need on the USS Defiant, but it is part of a massive block of incrypted data, which she can't transmit or try to decrypt without drawing attention to herself. So she is stuck on the local ship until she can find a way to get it to the Discovery. She gets orders to go destroy the location of the top rebel leadership. She finds it interesting that rebel leader is the Klingon leader from her home dimension. She makes the excuse to go visit them, meeting the local version of Sarek and Voq. She wants Voq to explain how he was able to form a union of Klingon, Vulcan, Andorain, & Tellerite. They talk and she leaves. However, Ash has a full on breakdown and Ash's original Klingon personality reverts. She return to the ship. Ash attacks MB and is charged with attempted murder, crime to be punished by spacing. Ash is transported into space, and then transported to the Discovery. MB slipped the disc of the Defiant data into his pocket before his "execution." to get it back to them. Meanwhile, Samits is still in a coma. There is a lot of technobabble back and forth. Basically the spores are killing him. So they try a procedure and he dies. For no reason he come back to life a while later. Impressions: Rather boring. The whole thing is utterly predictable. I think the word I would use is disjointed. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 24, 2019 4:04:55 GMT
And meanwhile on The Orville, Gordon falls in love with a hologram. How many times have we seen that before? I don't mean to sound holophobic, but those relationships never seem to end well.
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 24, 2019 14:27:52 GMT
Holograms are only good for light romance.
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Post by the light works on Mar 24, 2019 14:38:25 GMT
Holograms are only good for light romance. I don't know what people see in them. |
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Post by WhutScreenName on Mar 25, 2019 13:54:08 GMT
And meanwhile on The Orville, Gordon falls in love with a hologram. How many times have we seen that before? I don't mean to sound holophobic, but those relationships never seem to end well. I was a little tired of that as well. But they did it in a different way than most, and I did enjoy the episode. My other question is... HOW MANY TIMES is BORTIS (sp?) going to be the focus? I swear, every episode, even if he's NOT the focus, he's the focus. Can they make one without him?!? |
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Post by the light works on Mar 25, 2019 15:13:32 GMT
the thing I noticed is the new security chief seems to be almost written to not have a distinct personality. she feels like she is being used as a placeholder, and I - even though he official releases did imply she IS a placeholder - would be inclined to at least give her some development.
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 25, 2019 16:10:39 GMT
the thing I noticed is the new security chief seems to be almost written to not have a distinct personality. she feels like she is being used as a placeholder, and I - even though he official releases did imply she IS a placeholder - would be inclined to at least give her some development. Seems she's a clone of the last security chief who also was a little deficient on the personality side. Hopefully they will develop her further as I believe there is a lot there that they have to work with. Probably not this season as there are only 3 episodes left in season 2. |
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